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https://twitter.com/everysimpsons/status/803010070875357185 25th anniversary!
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Can't one of the Paul brothers just give the people what they want and fight Joshua or Wilder? Hell even Shannon Briggs
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Jun 7, 2021 11:13
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Why downgrade from the greatest boxer ever??
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Jun 7, 2021 11:20
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Wasn't there some sort of deadline to agree Joshua v Usyk or vacate by now?
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Jun 7, 2021 20:17
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madey posted:Wasn't there some sort of deadline to agree Joshua v Usyk or vacate by now? They've got a 2 week extension
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Jun 7, 2021 20:21
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I can't believe Logan Paul has more booking pull than Big Show and refused to job clean.
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Jun 7, 2021 20:46
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The Fury/Wilder 3 fight's undercard is apparently going to have the Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki rematch, as well as Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez; two undefeated top 5 heavyweight prospects. That's a really good card. I'm actually quite surprised that Ajagba and Sanchez would be fighting at this point in their careers.
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Jun 9, 2021 04:57
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Cigar Aficionado posted:The Fury/Wilder 3 fight's undercard is apparently going to have the Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki rematch, as well as Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez; two undefeated top 5 heavyweight prospects. That's a really good card. I'm actually quite surprised that Ajagba and Sanchez would be fighting at this point in their careers. Wow, thats awesome. Now this is making me want to go see Wilder Fury 3 in vegas. I think I'm gonna wait for Pac Spence in Aug tho
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Jun 9, 2021 05:30
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so I'm watching katsuo tokashiki and hwan jin kim from 1981 and I hopped onto wikipedia to try and get some context (the broadcast is in korean) and I hit this block of text, which I'm wondering if anyone has any more information about (spoiled because it reveals the result of this fight, in case you want to watch it as well):quote:Tokashiki won the world title with by unanimous decision, but a scandal involving the Kyoei gym's management was revealed the same day, and Tokashiki's victory was marred by controversy, since he and the previous champion, Gushiken, both trained with the gym. everything google is giving me is about the gym closing in 2019, and the wikipedia article about gushiken doesn't mention this at all e: holy gently caress a webpage talking about the magazine weekly bunshun posted:Various kinds of gossip have been there. One of the popular articles in their career must be a scandal about Gushiken Yoko they reported in 1982. By the way, he retired in 1981. hexwren fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jun 9, 2021 |
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Jun 9, 2021 10:03
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hexwren posted:so I'm watching katsuo tokashiki and hwan jin kim from 1981 and I hopped onto wikipedia to try and get some context (the broadcast is in korean) and I hit this block of text, which I'm wondering if anyone has any more information about (spoiled because it reveals the result of this fight, in case you want to watch it as well): had to look up “cathartic” which then led me to look up “purgative” but holy moley
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Jun 9, 2021 11:43
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Cigar Aficionado posted:The Fury/Wilder 3 fight's undercard is apparently going to have the Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki rematch, as well as Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez; two undefeated top 5 heavyweight prospects. That's a really good card. I'm actually quite surprised that Ajagba and Sanchez would be fighting at this point in their careers. Plus Jared "Big Baby" Anderson but opponent is still TBA
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Jun 9, 2021 14:47
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The Fury-Wilder card is looking stacked! Hopefully Fury stays motivated. I know Wilder is.
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Jun 9, 2021 23:38
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https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1403124547897880576?s=19 Lamar Odom facing off with Aaron Carter officiated by Chuck Liddell and Rob Van Dam is so up my alley it's scary
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Jun 11, 2021 01:16
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aaron carter? the brother of one of the backstreet boys? sure why not.
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Jun 11, 2021 01:26
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The SituAsian posted:https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1403124547897880576?s=19 This feels so greasy I love it
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Jun 11, 2021 01:33
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Just watched Claressa Shields make her MMA debut. Wow, she really has some troubles with grappling, was making all kinds of mistakes and despite that she won anyway basically through sheer will and athleticism. She has a long way to go in MMA, but I feel like there's some potential there even though I DKSAMMA
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Jun 11, 2021 05:48
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drat, that fight already happened? Did Elkin get her onto the cage at any point? Edit: She beat a BJJ black belt with ground and pound? Idks but I'd suspect she was hurt or exhausted or both. Edit2: survived being mounted twice, including an arm bar defense, surprisingly good. Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Jun 11, 2021 14:05
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The SituAsian posted:https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1403124547897880576?s=19 This is the most amazing thing
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Jun 11, 2021 14:06
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Marching Powder posted:aaron carter? the brother of one of the backstreet boys? sure why not. He was a somewhat successful teenie bopper wasn't he?
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Jun 11, 2021 14:07
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Mekchu posted:He was a somewhat successful teenie bopper wasn't he? Yeah his brother was in backstreet boys, and Aaron was a solo artist. He's obviously mentally disturbed. Who's putting this contest on? Their rehab facility?
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Jun 11, 2021 14:12
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Explains why Chuck is there.
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Jun 12, 2021 05:08
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kimbo305 posted:Explains why Chuck is there. Chuck does all the coke so they can't have any. Very effective rehab.
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Jun 12, 2021 05:49
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https://twitter.com/Mismatchsports/status/1403553042839097354 https://twitter.com/TheEliteMedia_/status/1403554260873326596
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Jun 12, 2021 16:05
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My journey through every fight in James Toney's career has reached a really strange tone; he looked very very good right up until his RJJ fight but he seemed like a totally different person there and, while he's improved afterwards, he's hasn't regained all of that lost excellence yet. He's currently several fights later and picking up some lackluster light heavy weight titles but I don't know when his next truly big fight will be or if he'll win it; I keep scaning his his remaining record and nothing jumps out at me as "and this is where Toney proved that actually he was a generational talent". How is Toney regarded in the grand scheme of things, really? Oh also, I have so much sympathy for Toney struggling to both make a certain weight but also wanting to eat everything, but lol I'm not trying to be a world fighter. Still, part of me can't wait for him to give up and become a heavyweight and just eat eat eat.
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Jun 12, 2021 16:11
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Only thing I know about James Toney is he got a nice payday to get taken down and bopped a few times by Randy Couture at the end of his career. Ray Mercer also crossed over to fight a former UFC champ. They were originally supposed to box, but the AC wouldn’t sanction the bout under boxing rules. It would do it as an MMA fight, though. Tim and Ray had gentleman’s agreement that they would only box. Immediately out the gate, Sylvia throws a leg kick, disappointing Mr. Mercer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUx9OE7DZAo
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Jun 12, 2021 16:26
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Mr. Nice! posted:Only thing I know about James Toney is he got a nice payday to get taken down and bopped a few times by Randy Couture at the end of his career. I like mercer's little pause of "did he just? ok gently caress this"
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Jun 12, 2021 16:48
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Jack B Nimble posted:
He was for a time an elite heavyweight despite being a relatively tiny 5'10", and had an interesting style of fighting. Going from middleweight up to heavyweight may have suited his lifestyle but it's also impressive in its own right. I suppose the catch is that RJJ did everything he did, but generally better.
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Jun 12, 2021 17:11
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Jack B Nimble posted:My journey through every fight in James Toney's career has reached a really strange tone; he looked very very good right up until his RJJ fight but he seemed like a totally different person there and, while he's improved afterwards, he's hasn't regained all of that lost excellence yet. He's currently several fights later and picking up some lackluster light heavy weight titles but I don't know when his next truly big fight will be or if he'll win it; I keep scaning his his remaining record and nothing jumps out at me as "and this is where Toney proved that actually he was a generational talent". Toney was in the wilderness post-RJJ. He took several losses at 175, including showing up way overweight and losing to the unheralded Drake Thadzi. Toney never won a major title at 175, and never really got his career back on track until he moved up to cruiserweight and had his fight of the year with Vassily Jirov. From there he went on a nice run at heavyweight; knocking out Evander Holyfield and beating John Ruiz for a world title (later changed to NC based on a positive steroids test on Toney). He wouldn't lose again until a disputed SD loss to Sam Peter. His heavyweight run was a testament to his skill and natural aptitude for fighting, as Toney was only 5'9 with an average reach. Toney is both regarded as a future Hall of Famer and all time great, due to his winning world titles at 160, 168, 190, and heavyweight, as well as viewed as a bit of a wasted talent due to his distaste for road work and keeping his weight down during fights. I view him as a bit of a bizarro-Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins was the gym rat who got to where he was through outworking everyone, whereas Toney's legacy is based entirely on pure talent. Hopkins is rated a bit higher on the "all time greats" list, but I would say they were pretty even in terms of ability. That is also one of the all time mythical matchups that unfortunately never happened. Cigar Aficionado fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jun 12, 2021 |
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Jun 12, 2021 19:14
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Thanks everyone, that gives me a lot more context to chew on as I keep working through his record. Hopkins sounds like a good next candidate for this sort of review, but actually I've only done this with Manny Pacquiao, most of RJJ, and now Toney (lmao I had no idea how many fights he had). Who else is a good candidate for this? Preferably someone where there's YouTube videos of their earlier fights, I really like watching them come up in the world. Doesn't have to be literally evey fight, but as long as they're a popular champion from the 90s or later I can probably find at least some early stuff. Edit: Oh I have a criteria I totally failed to mention, I love listening to old HBO broadcasts with Jim Lampley, Harold Letterman, Ray Leonard and George Foreman and Emanuel Steward, etc. Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jun 12, 2021 |
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Jun 12, 2021 20:06
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Jack B Nimble posted:Thanks everyone, that gives me a lot more context to chew on as I keep working through his record. Hopkins sounds like a good next candidate for this sort of review, but actually I've only done this with Manny Pacquiao, most of RJJ, and now Toney (lmao I had no idea how many fights he had). Hopkins is great. I'd also recommend Oscar de la Hoya and Shane Mosley. Guys like Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera would also be cool, but it might be tough to track down their earlier fights that occurred in Mexico.
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Jun 12, 2021 20:13
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Hopkins and Mosley would be perfect. I am extremely biased towards them though. Mosley also has been training Jake Paul if you want a tie-in to today’s boxing.
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Jun 12, 2021 20:26
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I have a soft spot for aging fighters struggling to stay competitive, so I think Hopkins will be next.
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Jun 12, 2021 20:33
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Tommy Morrison's boxing career is an interesting saga. And what a left hook.
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Jun 12, 2021 22:53
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Domestic level Brits dropping like flies. Could the Cheese Man be next? https://twitter.com/SkySportsBoxing/status/1403840361001332744?s=19
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Jun 12, 2021 23:50
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“should the fight have continued after Ritson's corner had thrown the towel in?” lol
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Jun 13, 2021 00:06
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Lmao and I just heard a commentator in an old fight say "when the towel comes in that's it, except in England, there the ref just kicks it out of the ring".
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Jun 13, 2021 14:21
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Even though he was super conservative I thought Shakur looked very good last night. So elusive
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Jun 13, 2021 15:29
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Jack B Nimble posted:Thanks everyone, that gives me a lot more context to chew on as I keep working through his record. Hopkins sounds like a good next candidate for this sort of review, but actually I've only done this with Manny Pacquiao, most of RJJ, and now Toney (lmao I had no idea how many fights he had). Arturo Gatti
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sportsgenius86 posted:Arturo Gatti seconding gatti, also recommending larry holmes and ken norton
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In terms of recentish boxers who are now inactive I feel like Zab Judah had a pretty interesting career
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