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Dapper_Swindler posted:Well you know Honor among thieves. That being said I didn’t know they tried to gently caress each other over that much. I assume it’s a mistake of them all hating each other and purity politics poo poo plus viewership competition? There's a limited market of people who are sexist, racist-but-not-loudly-racist, consider themselves good Christians, are bored enough to watch televangelists, and have enough money to donate. The grifters ruthlessly battle for that market.
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Zeroisanumber posted:There's a limited market of people who are sexist, racist-but-not-loudly-racist, consider themselves good Christians, are bored enough to watch televangelists, and have enough money to donate. The grifters ruthlessly battle for that market. well, sounds like what jesus would have wanted. clearly these a good and kind men doing it for the right reasons.
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, oh man. Whatever right wing bullshit took over my local sports talk station is just beyond terrible. Like worse than usual. I can't even hate listen to it. The guy today was trying to make up some word to label the Biden administration and it was some play on words like..."Kasek...arism" or...I dunno. One word meant "fascist" or Socialist in some language or maybe the bible and the other meant "failure" in some other language or...something so he was trying to make a new word that would make sense and... Was it "kakistocracy"? It means "rule by the worst/least qualified" and was a word I (and a lot of people) didn't learn until the Trump administration. It wouldn't really be surprising that a word that got thrown around a lot about Trump would be used for Biden now, since most people probably just think it's yet another word for "thing I don't like" and makes you sound smart when you say it.
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nine-gear crow posted:Blues Clues did an episode with a song in it a few weeks ago explaining in the gentlest possible terms what LGBT+ people, Pride month, and Pride parades/celebrations are to children, written and preformed by an actual LGBT+ person and Status Quo Warriors of all stripes lost their poo poo over it for a few days until, I dunno some new video game or cartoon thing came along to make them mad and they focused on that instead. I think it's worth noting that said performer was a drag queen, so the people who are vocally up in arms about it are still riding that "drag queens (mutter and therefore all LGBTQ people mutter) are out there grooming our kids so they can gently caress them" wave of rhetoric. If it weren't so harmful, it'd be kind of amusing how conservatives react to drag queens. Like, they have absolutely no idea that drag performance is an actual thing, so they just kind of assume that drag queens are JRPG final boss versions of gay people.
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FilthyImp posted:Some parent highly objected because they thought kids shouldn't learn about sexuality and I was like the gently caress? Why do people jump straight to loving 101 Projection. It's the dumbest poo poo, I remember during the Obama years when schools were starting to make more of an effort to teach kids that it's totally fine to be gay, which the right wing media immediately turned into "OBAMA wants schools to show GAY SEX VIDEOS to kindergartners!"
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Rich and powerful men of all stripes are creeps and protect creeps, but something really sticks in my brain how Fox, a network founded and run by noted rapist Roger Ailes and god knows how many other creeps spent countless hours complaining through various mouthpieces that who women don’t want to be raped are a threat to freedom. Say what you will about trigger warnings getting applied to silly things or cynically appropriating the language of trauma to fight Bernie Sanders, you can’t convince me that the furor against trigger warnings was driven by Roger Ailes and his buddies’ outrage that women don’t want to be raped by them. Then we found that the entire network basically existed as 1: general Republican propaganda and 2: to make it easier and more socially acceptable for Roger Ailes to force himself on as many women as he could. And while Roger Ailes was fired, it was basically for costing the Murdoch money, so there was no real reckoning for what could be described as a loving rape network! And my dad and several dads in our social circle and 1/3 of America just kind of nodded along with it! Maybe I’m doing the thing where I’m ascribing the worst possible motivation to my ideological opponents, but wasn’t it implied that Trump’s serial sexual assaults were good because it would make your dumb bitch liberal daughter feel bad? I’m a straight dude who was bullied a lot with “ironic” rear end grabbing in middle school, and my dad was pretty unhelpful with getting me through that, but I liked to have thought he learned something. Hoo boy, did seeing no one’s mind changing after the pussy tape open some wounds. It makes it all the more frustrating when they try to present themselves for crusaders for decency. Bullshit, they were angry at WAP because it was consensual. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:I think it's worth noting that said performer was a drag queen, so the people who are vocally up in arms about it are still riding that "drag queens (mutter and therefore all LGBTQ people mutter) are out there grooming our kids so they can gently caress them" wave of rhetoric. Here is the link to the video in case anyone wanted to see it and check out the downvote ratio. There are references to non-binary and trans people so it has cast a wide net- I can see how it's offended not only chuds but also TERFs and people who would not admit to being homophobic but go on about not 'ramming it down people's throats'. I found out about this on a drag subreddit because the fans on there were worried that Nina West might not have been the best person to do it and this might give chuds fuel, or something (West tends to try and brand as a more family-friendly queen but also has done shows for adults with risque content, like getting audience members onstage to do foot fetish stuff). To be honest as you've said even a squeaky clean drag queen would have made no difference, since to the right they are inherently degenerates and harbingers of the fall of the west.
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Weldon Pemberton posted:Here is the link to the video in case anyone wanted to see it and check out the downvote ratio. There are references to non-binary and trans people so it has cast a wide net- I can see how it's offended not only chuds but also TERFs and people who would not admit to being homophobic but go on about not 'ramming it down people's throats'. Well Nina/Andrew Levitt was already cancelled by left-wing RPDR fans since she went on The View and was nice to Meghan McCain or something. Honestly I think it's jealousy that an older, campy queen not from a "major" drag scene is getting mainstream TV work. Drag drama aside though, I agree that literally any openly gay person would get pushback. Conservatives deal with LGBTQ people by pretending they don't exist, and anything that pops that bubble of ignorance is the enemy in their eyes. Zeroisanumber posted:Drag queen optics. My lord!
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Weldon Pemberton posted:Here is the link to the video in case anyone wanted to see it and check out the downvote ratio. There are references to non-binary and trans people so it has cast a wide net- I can see how it's offended not only chuds but also TERFs and people who would not admit to being homophobic but go on about not 'ramming it down people's throats'. The parade is mostly fine, kids need to learn that some families have two moms or two dads. But it also drops a couple of lines and concepts without providing any additional context, and it's not clear what kids should take from it "Some people choose their families"- As an adult I get what that means, but what does a toddler take from it? That they can also choose their families? No they can't, it's a reference to how some people get out of abusive households and meet people who accept them, who become their new 'families'. And it's arguably not even a choice. It's a topic kids should learn though. Not sure what the drag queen factor adds to it, it's a fine hobby/kink but not really a civl rights issue. It's great that Nina wants to help kids, but but refusing to do it as anything other than a drag queen sends the message that how one signals themselves to others is less important than how they treat people. But seeking a receptive audience of kids just to validate an adult's desired identity is a million times more common outside of the LGBT community. Same thing with draq queen story hour. Reading to kids is great! Refusing to do so if you can't wear a specific costume kind of proves what the real priority is. We can teach kids not to judge others for their clothing or physical appearance and feel good about it, but then when they turn into teens we have to re-teach them that society will in fact judge them for their apperance, and so they need to follow dress codes and grooming practices
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Dr Christmas posted:wasn’t it implied that Trump’s serial sexual assaults were good because it would make your dumb bitch liberal daughter feel bad? Not really, at least not that I can remember. From what I recall these were the most common responses: 1) Focus on Trump using the word "pussy" and pretending that that's why liberals were mad. "I don't see what the big deal is, liberals use that word all the time, they even use other, worse words!" 2) Claim that it was just "locker room talk" and Trump was just bragging to make himself look like a macho man, obviously he didn't do those things he was just being laid back, one of the guys! "Clearly liberals just hate alpha males." 3) Claim that Trump did nothing wrong and focus on the phrase "They let you do it." To them, this means that obviously those women consented, and so it couldn't have been sexual assault. "He was just saying women are attracted to rich and powerful people and are willing to do things they wouldn't do with other, less powerful men. I thought liberals were all about consent!" "This is good because it owns the libs" was around in a sense before Trump won the election but I think it was after he won that it really became a thing. I'm unclear on the timeline and it's one of those things that'd be difficult to search for. At any rate I don't think that they liked the pussy tape comments because they thought "liberal women will be so owned!" they just liked them because they aspire to be like Trump, they wish they could sexually assault any woman they wanted like he could. It also could be that there's a bit of crossover with attacking women who claim sexual assault combined with the idea that liberal women be ugly and conservative women be hot, like a sense of "Liberal women only hate what Trump said because they're too ugly for him to want to touch them!" but I don't know if that was explicitly said out loud. It probably was actually just not on any of the mainstream right wing media outlets, I wouldn't be surprised if Cernovich or Rubin or some other chud tweeted it or said it in a Youtube video.
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Twelve by Pies posted:It also could be that there's a bit of crossover with attacking women who claim sexual assault combined with the idea that liberal women be ugly and conservative women be hot, like a sense of "Liberal women only hate what Trump said because they're too ugly for him to want to touch them!" but I don't know if that was explicitly said out loud. It probably was actually just not on any of the mainstream right wing media outlets, I wouldn't be surprised if Cernovich or Rubin or some other chud tweeted it or said it in a Youtube video. I recall that as far as the accuser who was on the airplane with him, one of his defenses was "Believe me, she would not be my first choice". He said that at a rally; I guess even he knew to keep that kind of poo poo to his safe spaces.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Not really, at least not that I can remember. From what I recall these were the most common responses:
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OneEightHundred posted:4.) It's bad but the Democrats are worse. This has been the most successful and most harmful right-wing mentality shift over the last 40 years: the othering of America. The flip side of the "real America", "patriot" bullshit is the total demonization of the out-group, which now makes up the majority of the country. Feminists want to murder babies and enslave men. BLM wants to incite a Marxist revolution and enslave white people. THE GAYS want to rape our children and also probably enslave men somehow. Muslims (and also Jews and basically anybody who doesn't say Merry Christmas at least 10 times a day, probably Catholics too) really want to attack and dethrone God. Take all of this to its logical conclusion and there just isn't any avenue for compromise between right-wingers and anyone else so they can justify absolutely any kind of behaviour as a necessary means to an end.
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In the weeks before he died, Rush used to say that the left and the right had absolutely nothing in common, not a single thing that they could agree on. He wasn't lamenting it, he was just stating it as fact and reinforcing the idea that "Anyone who calls themselves a liberal/leftist is an enemy to you because they oppose every single thing you stand for." Which, as I've said before, was what Rush wanted his whole career, for there to be a massive rift between those two sides of the political spectrum. The worst part is I don't think he was wrong, either, I really can't think of a single political issue where I could agree with a right winger. I don't think it makes every single right winger in the country my enemy, but the politicians definitely.
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I don't think all right wingers want me and my loved ones dead. There are people who accept right wing framing on issues because of massive propaganda efforts in our society as well as a certain sense of selfishness (which I think is bad, but not "I want to commit genocide" levels of bad). "I think taxes should be lower" is not a position I'm comfortable calling someone a fascist Nazi for holding. People don't like paying taxes, it's easy to see why "I want to pay less in taxes" is an easy position to take. Yes, lower taxes means less money for social services and education and things like that, that's why it's a harmful position to hold, but getting people to understand that is a much more difficult task because you have to explain the lie of welfare queens, why the Laffer Curve is bullshit, how taxes actually work (because most people think things like "If you get a raise at your job you could end up making less money because you're in a higher tax bracket now!"), all that stuff. Even if you can get them to understand that stuff, they can still be resistant to believe it. "Just because welfare queens are a myth doesn't mean people don't abuse the system, so I'm still against making it easier to obtain." Again, a bad position, but not one I would say "Well I guess you're just a hateful racist chud who wants all minorities to die!" to. poo poo, look at the poster just a few posts up in this thread! They have a real lovely opinion about drag queens reading to kids and accept the right wing framing of "It isn't really civil rights, and they only care about themselves." I'm not willing to call that poster a chud just because of that. e: I guess I should clarify, I'm talking about the kind of right winger who's just the "lower taxes, less restrictions on businesses" type, or the "socially liberal fiscally conservative" types. I'm not saying those people are good or that they are allies, because they have bad political beliefs and they are causing harm by holding them. I just don't think they are inherently evil people who want to commit large scale genocide. Anyone who's like "Hell yeah Republicans rule!" though, sure, I agree with you there. Basically I don't want to do what Rush wanted to happen. I don't want to see people who, even if they are bad, as blood enemies who I must crush to save the country, because that's what right wing media and politicians are trying to get them to do. Absolutely all right wing politicians are hateful shithead assholes who want me and my loved ones to die, yes, that is 100% true. But I don't think everyone who holds some right wing beliefs is like them. Twelve by Pies fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jun 12, 2021 |
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My Face When posted:When im put on court, i will put my hand on a bootsy collons album. bussy colons
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:I think it's worth noting that said performer was a drag queen, so the people who are vocally up in arms about it are still riding that "drag queens (mutter and therefore all LGBTQ people mutter) are out there grooming our kids so they can gently caress them" wave of rhetoric. This is the RWM thread, so I'll add that Rod Dreher has been blogging almost exclusively about the impending Trans Apocalypse while on some kind of fellowship in Orbán's Hungary (which he sees as a glorious and impregnable bastion against homofascism). He's written three such blogs so far (2247, 3348, 1774 words each with the most recent first) and there's no indication that he's going to stop.
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greazeball posted:This has been the most successful and most harmful right-wing mentality shift over the last 40 years: the othering of America. The flip side of the "real America", "patriot" bullshit is the total demonization of the out-group, which now makes up the majority of the country. Feminists want to murder babies and enslave men. BLM wants to incite a Marxist revolution and enslave white people. THE GAYS want to rape our children and also probably enslave men somehow. Muslims (and also Jews and basically anybody who doesn't say Merry Christmas at least 10 times a day, probably Catholics too) really want to attack and dethrone God. Take all of this to its logical conclusion and there just isn't any avenue for compromise between right-wingers and anyone else so they can justify absolutely any kind of behaviour as a necessary means to an end. A senior fellow at the right wing sociopath factory known as the Claremont Institute made your argument for you three months ago. They aren't hiding their intentions in the least. https://americanmind.org/salvo/why-the-claremont-institute-is-not-conservative-and-you-shouldnt-be-either/
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JonathonSpectre posted:When my nephew was 7 years old ...YouTube Please don't let 7 year olds watch YouTube unsupervised. CellBlock posted:Was it "kakistocracy"? It means "rule by the worst/least qualified" and was a word I (and a lot of people) didn't learn until the Trump administration. It wouldn't really be surprising that a word that got thrown around a lot about Trump would be used for Biden now, since most people probably just think it's yet another word for "thing I don't like" and makes you sound smart when you say it. That was it! Wow how catchy! I actually think it sounds loving stupid. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Jun 12, 2021 |
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waydownLo posted:A senior fellow at the right wing sociopath factory known as the Claremont Institute made your argument for you three months ago. They aren't hiding their intentions in the least. loving hell that was something
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waydownLo posted:A senior fellow at the right wing sociopath factory known as the Claremont Institute made your argument for you three months ago. They aren't hiding their intentions in the least. I've never heard of this place before, and I'm glad of it.
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This is amazing. Waitin' for a flyover. It's like something out of a Christopher Guest movie. https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1403756701074051079
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Pillow is still just barking at Fox News the institute, he really should directly name talkin heads for not being proDonnie enough. he should do this because Hannity and Tuck are massive divas and I want to see the slap fight. Hannity killed Chowder's career at Fox becase Chowder tried to no true scots man him
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Nonsense posted:Hannity needs a side-kick like Tucker, just give Tucker's time-slot to that wrestler creep. You need to be much more specific.
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1glitch0 posted:This is amazing. Waitin' for a flyover. It's like something out of a Christopher Guest movie. had to do a double take when i saw his little flag
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Nonsense posted:Hannity needs a side-kick like Tucker, just give Tucker's time-slot to that wrestler creep. Just splice in old Alan Colmes bits from when he did have a sidekick. All you need is one going 'You are right Sean', one 'Indeed, those clowns Sean.', and for the extra horrible Republican policies 'Hold now Sean, I think the dems won't like that.' 99.9% covered.
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1glitch0 posted:This is amazing. Waitin' for a flyover. It's like something out of a Christopher Guest movie. Holy poo poo, why is he in New Richmond of all places? That's my hometown. It's just a small town about an hour east of the Twin Cities. It's not exactly a bustling hub of conservative thought, either - you gotta drive for another hour before you hit Wisconsin's true redneck territory. I guess asking why Mike Lindell is doing anything in particular is a futile effort, but goddamn, it's weird to see the place I grew up host the saddest rally of all time.
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1glitch0 posted:This is amazing. Waitin' for a flyover. It's like something out of a Christopher Guest movie. So how much loving money do you went down the toilet to pay for this nonsense?
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