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bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
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Grondoth posted:

you have no idea how many gay teens are crazy about those animatronics

It could be one of those "Hey we all have differences, can't we just all get along?" type posts someone tends to do when they get called out on bad poo poo.

And there are probably a lot of dumb people who will go "He's nice and friendly about it, why are people being mean to him?" and act like he's in the right.

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



"I've already got your money, what are you going to do? Cancel me?" - quote from man cancelled.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Gwen posted:

why didn't he just not respond. he clearly doesn't care and is rich enough to live well outside the consequences of his own bad politics.

He wants to declare himself the real victim here and he gets to throw a bone to the ride or die fans and get praised for it

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

The Chad Jihad posted:

gently caress that and gently caress him

"Enemies abroad of which there are many" jesus christ

Well yeah, if that guy were the first American you ever met, you'd become an enemy of America, too! :v:

No wonder there are so many of them, abroad

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Viewtiful Jew posted:

https://twitter.com/tangsanzangz/status/1403781165585076227

Scott finally gave a reply and it was more or less, "Yes I did it and I'll do it again." And that was enough for a bunch of the fans to...say they will keep supporting him.

When he says he was doxxed is that something that actually happened or is he seemingly trying to conflate the initial finding out who he donated to with doxxing?

yeah, he is a loving idiot to put it nicely.


Nuns with Guns posted:

I see that Gen Z is getting their Harry Potter moment out of the way early...

I love his evasive "I support equality" without having to specifically declare what he thinks equality means for people of color, LTBTQIA+ people, or anyone else who would be lethally harmed by the bigots he donates to. He knows exactly what he's doing with his words and deeds.

i am curious how Gen Z will react. i honestly think many will give him a pass because he is honest about his lovely beliefs but keeps them under quiet and poo poo. like how many indie devs had good/"good" politics and ended up being massive loving monsters or weird loving dicks and they grew up with all of that. i'll be curious to see how it goes.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Dapper_Swindler posted:


i am curious how Gen Z will react. i honestly think many will give him a pass because he is honest about his lovely beliefs but keeps them under quiet and poo poo. like how many indie devs had good/"good" politics and ended up being massive loving monsters or weird loving dicks and they grew up with all of that. i'll be curious to see how it goes.

A lot of it is becoming "It's okay to have different opinions!" without actually stating those opinions and why they're bad.

Like acting whether or not some groups of people deserve basic human rights is the same as if you like Star Wars or not.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

bobjr posted:

And there are probably a lot of dumb people who will go "He's nice and friendly about it, why are people being mean to him?" and act like he's in the right.

There's a lot of that stupid "B-BUH DIFFERENCES OF OPINION" nonsense in the comments already, most of them are also already flanked by "Funding violent regressive poo poo is not a difference of opinion" thankfully.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Gwen posted:

why didn't he just not respond. he clearly doesn't care and is rich enough to live well outside the consequences of his own bad politics.

pick your fave:

1) he knows the best grift to get on is the right wing victim grift, hence his "YOU DOXXED ME AND SCARED MY PREGNANT WIFE YOU EVIL QUEERS" angle and the gen-z soft boi bullshit 'uwu normalize having different opinions' response he's getting

or

B) he genuinely just doesn't give a poo poo and wanted to make it explicit that he's already got all our money for years at this point so who cares if we stop giving a poo poo about him.

Gen Z (required added statement: generational conflict is fake and stupid and a tool by those in power to create wedges and destroy solidarity but this works as shorthand for 'the current culture among young adults/teens in western contexts') is basically creating an activist culture entirely revolved around what people call 'validity politics' which is just what it sounds like, the whole 'YOU ARE ~VALID~' as the big go-to form of acceptance, it's a really weak, heavily capitalist co-opted kind of activism that relies on tone and shibboleths rather than more tangible activism. So basically it's not a shock a lot of his fans who may have been initially shocked by his stuff are honing in on 'it's okay to have different opinions as long as he's polite about it'. Like, if he was really smart he'd do some weak rear end 'Freddy says trans rights' 3d render and I am 100% a non-zero amount of the people still mad at him would think that undoes active tangible support for politicians.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

the fnaf reddit is also modding/blamming anyone who does anything other than get down on their knees and do unspeakable things. like comments just going 'even if you say you support lgbt people these donations prove otherwise' get deleted, lol. and the bland criticism that is allowed to stand just gets downvoted to hell.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


What I have learned today is that there are a lot of right-wing FNAF fans.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

sexpig by night posted:

Gen Z (required added statement: generational conflict is fake and stupid and a tool by those in power to create wedges and destroy solidarity but this works as shorthand for 'the current culture among young adults/teens in western contexts') is basically creating an activist culture entirely revolved around what people call 'validity politics' which is just what it sounds like, the whole 'YOU ARE ~VALID~' as the big go-to form of acceptance, it's a really weak, heavily capitalist co-opted kind of activism that relies on tone and shibboleths rather than more tangible activism. So basically it's not a shock a lot of his fans who may have been initially shocked by his stuff are honing in on 'it's okay to have different opinions as long as he's polite about it'. Like, if he was really smart he'd do some weak rear end 'Freddy says trans rights' 3d render and I am 100% a non-zero amount of the people still mad at him would think that undoes active tangible support for politicians.

My joke before aside, yeah this "generation" crap is stupid horoscope nonsense. I don't know if I'd even ascribe "validity politics" as a unique thing to one generation or another. Like it's not that far off from what I think most millennials agreed with or posted online in their early 20s, except that hatred against cis gay people has to stay behind closed doors moreso now, and corporations can get away with painting poo poo in rainbow colors every June. So it's harder now to pinpoint the existential threat someone donating to far-right politicians represents. It's a bit bemusing that something like this could still be missed online, but I think it shows more how universally human the reaction of shock and betrayal is when you get to know your heroes and end up doing stupid bullshit to cope or deny the horrid things they stand for.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Holy poo poo, I take that back. What i have learned today is that there are a lot of minority FNAF fans who are fanatically devoted to this dude, even ones with BLM and non-binary pronouns in their profiles.

Kids are the worst, man.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Nuns with Guns posted:

My joke before aside, yeah this "generation" crap is stupid horoscope nonsense. I don't know if I'd even ascribe "validity politics" as a unique thing to one generation or another. Like it's not that far off from what I think most millennials agreed with or posted online in their early 20s, except that hatred against cis gay people has to stay behind closed doors moreso now, and corporations can get away with painting poo poo in rainbow colors every June. So it's harder now to pinpoint the existential threat someone donating to far-right politicians represents. It's a bit bemusing that something like this could still be missed online, but I think it shows more how universally human the reaction of shock and betrayal is when you get to know your heroes and end up doing stupid bullshit to cope or deny the horrid things they stand for.

oh yea I didn't mean to imply this was UNIQUE to them, I just think it's become extremely widespread in those circles mainly due to the massive corporate appropriation of the struggles of minorities (wow burger king you made a chicken sandwitch that says gay rights, what do you do for your LGBTQ+ employees????) and the very very major element of 'posting is praxis' that infects the twitter/tiktok crowd.

Basically yea anyone can fall victim to this poo poo and it's totally not those durn kids and their smartphones inviting a new bad thing, but it is how you wind up with situations like


Pollyanna posted:

Holy poo poo, I take that back. What i have learned today is that there are a lot of minority FNAF fans who are fanatically devoted to this dude, even ones with BLM and non-binary pronouns in their profiles.

Kids are the worst, man.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

When you’re a kid, your hobbies and media consumption make up a substantial portion of your sense of self because you haven’t done enough living to know what you believe or to have real priorities.

That’s pretty similar in some ways to all the adult chuds who found their politics entirely on the media they consume because they never did any living or cared about anything but themselves.

Of course, there’s still hope for the kids, though.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
I mean it feels very weird to say because I think we all know that the fight for anyone's liberation is nowhere near over but it's impossible to ignore that a lot of these validity focused 17 year olds who do poo poo like say the 3d bear man giving money to people who want them dead is fine because he just wants to have his opinions, or will regurgitate right wing talking points to call people who go to pride in leather pedophiles, are also the first generation to grow up in an american society where you PROBABLY won't turn the tv on and hear the protagonist of a young person's show call someone a 'human being' for laughs and where being nominally 'pro-black/queer/immigrant' is actually a profitable branding for corporations to do. Like, I know the 'is mastercard my friend' joke is a bit overused but a LOT of these kids truly did grow up thinking mastercard genuinely gives a single poo poo about if they live or die.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Yeah, I say that not because this generation is somehow unique, but because there’s a lot of young people reacting badly to their first Enrowling.

Do not even ask
Apr 8, 2008


man i never would've thought i'd see like half of the fnaf fanbase go "ethnically cleanse me, daddy :mmmhmm:"

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Do not even ask posted:

man i never would've thought i'd see like half of the fnaf fanbase go "ethnically cleanse me, daddy :mmmhmm:"

look, Chika is my comfort character so if that means I have to shake the man's hand and thank him for giving money to a guy that thinks I should get the gay shocked out of me in a camp that's the price I pay

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
and I am saying this as a person who was in the exact demo who grew up with Harry Potter and spent too long defending JK so I fully understand what makes this happen even as I throw a stone from my glass house

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
"What do you mean it's problematic that JK had centaurs rape a woman into a catatonic state as punishment for being a shithead, and then our heroes actively triggered her ptsd as a fun goof? Come on Umbridge was a baddie you're putting too much thought into this. Besides there's no new Warrior Cats books out so it's this or go back to comics," ~ me as a loving idiot baby

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Is that what fuckin happened in that book???? :psyduck:

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Pollyanna posted:

Is that what fuckin happened in that book???? :psyduck:

I mean at best they just beat the poo poo out of her because she was hospitalized and had a violent panic reaction to the sound of hooves afterwards so there's no real 'good' option, I think the word 'ravish' is explicitly used which is what made the rape imagery happen?

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

I've heard that idea before, but I think they just dragged her rear end all through the forest ultimately, which is still drat.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Pollyanna posted:

Is that what fuckin happened in that book???? :psyduck:

I don't think the centaurs raped Umbridge, but definitely tortured her for several days in nonspecific ways that left her terrified of seeing one at Dumbledore's funeral. I mean, unless Rowling did a detailed lore dump about centaur rape on Pottermore. It's as possible as anything else at this point.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pollyanna posted:

What I have learned today is that there are a lot of right-wing FNAF fans.

also alot of them want to gently caress the robots.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

bobjr posted:

A lot of it is becoming "It's okay to have different opinions!" without actually stating those opinions and why they're bad.

Like acting whether or not some groups of people deserve basic human rights is the same as if you like Star Wars or not.

i am not saying they are right. i am just saying i can sorta understand the logic.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Dapper_Swindler posted:

also alot of them want to gently caress the robots.

Well that can go without saying

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

thetoughestbean posted:

Well that can go without saying

thats the one thing i dont get. i am into plenty of media with horny fandoms and but killer animatronics is right up their with teenage cartoon ponies in eww.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Nuns with Guns posted:

I don't think the centaurs raped Umbridge, but definitely tortured her for several days in nonspecific ways that left her terrified of seeing one at Dumbledore's funeral. I mean, unless Rowling did a detailed lore dump about centaur rape on Pottermore. It's as possible as anything else at this point.
It seems that people are thinking rape because mythologically centaurs are apparently known for abducting and raping human women.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Sarcopenia posted:

It seems that people are thinking rape because mythologically centaurs are apparently known for abducting and raping human women.

Most people I've known who came to that conclusion knew nothing about mythological centaurs, they just really, really, wanted something awful to happen to the mean lady they disliked. And, like, duh: a bunch of angry savage "halfbreeds" captured her, what else were they going to do :rolleyes: The amount of people who just kind of immediately glommed onto that poo poo always felt more than a little uncomfortable to me.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Does Jim Sterling have a stage name for their wrestling persona or do they just use their normal name?

Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats the one thing i dont get. i am into plenty of media with horny fandoms and but killer animatronics is right up their with teenage cartoon ponies in eww.

There are a lot of supposed-to-be-scary things that make a weirdly large number of people horny. I’m honestly surprised you’ve gone this long without discovering monsterfuckers.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Ariong posted:

Does Jim Sterling have a stage name for their wrestling persona or do they just use their normal name?

https://twitter.com/JimSterling/status/1400938653677989891?s=19

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Ariong posted:

Does Jim Sterling have a stage name for their wrestling persona or do they just use their normal name?

It was "Sterdust" last time I checked. Unless they changed it recently

Edit: oh looks like they retired the sterdust character I guess

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats the one thing i dont get. i am into plenty of poo poo with horny fandoms and but killer animatronics is right up their with teenage cartoon ponies in eww.

Five Nights at Freddy's was one of those first big streaming crazes because kids liked seeing their favorite video game-player scream at a robot fox jump scare. From there you get the natural internet funnel down into porn, I guess. Like remember we once lived in a society so primitive that people had to draw horny fan art of the TF2 characters before Overwatch introduced an infinitely more fuckable cast.

Sarcopenia posted:

It seems that people are thinking rape because mythologically centaurs are apparently known for abducting and raping human women.

Ah yeah, I could see why people might jump from there with how vague it's left. I don't know... Rowling seemed satisfied with just brutalizing characters she'd deemed unacceptable for various reasons. The only rape in Harry Potter was of the "non-coercive mind control" variety where it never seemed like she thought through the full implications of how hosed up it was.

(Relatedly, I didn't know until that Quinn Curio video that Umbridge was a Slytherin, too. loving good lord lady, why would you keep assigning all the gleeful fascists to the snake house?)

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Ariong posted:

Does Jim Sterling have a stage name for their wrestling persona or do they just use their normal name?

There are a lot of supposed-to-be-scary things that make a weirdly large number of people horny. I’m honestly surprised you’ve gone this long without discovering monsterfuckers.

oh i know monster stuff and etc. i am just amused because i just can't see anything to be attracted to.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Nuns with Guns posted:

I see that Gen Z is getting their Harry Potter moment out of the way early...

I love his evasive "I support equality" without having to specifically declare what he thinks equality means for people of color, LTBTQIA+ people, or anyone else who would be lethally harmed by the bigots he donates to. He knows exactly what he's doing with his words and deeds.

Nah, he's just a massive loving idiot; What he's actually saying is he completely ignores their race/orientation/gender and treats them as the same (probably nothing mean-spirited like dead-naming or misgendering, but you get what I mean). That's what he means by "treat people as people" and, oops, just going to ignore that the people he likes do things that clash with the "people he treats as people" :shrug:.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Nah, he's just a massive loving idiot; What he's actually saying is he completely ignores their race/orientation/gender and treats them as the same (probably nothing mean-spirited like dead-naming or misgendering, but you get what I mean). That's what he means by "treat people as people" and, oops, just going to ignore that the people he likes do things that clash with the "people he treats as people" :shrug:.

thats my impression too. my guess is probably cool with LGBTQ and poo poo but he is stupid loving moron who believes in all the other chud poo poo enough that he is fine with giving money to people who would gently caress them over.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

I'm sure based on the America's Enemies part he has some opinions about either Muslims or Immigrants he knows enough to not say out loud.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats my impression too. my guess is probably cool with LGBTQ and poo poo but he is stupid loving moron who believes in all the other chud poo poo enough that he is fine with giving money to people who would gently caress them over.

Not quite, my read is more he ignores those facets of people in the same you'd just go "yeah, cool, whatever" to a friend having a hobby you have zero interest in. Just zero space in his head for it in reference to someone beyond "it's a thing they do".

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Shaun has fallen to the dark side

https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1403920523114029056?s=20

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