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O.K. but what about that time that Superman demolished the KKK by exposing and ridiculing their rituals?
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lol I can see the value in ridicule as a Machiavellian tactic, especially with self-important narcissists like Trump and Bolsonaro, but I also think that while doing that you should still be mindful of the potential  implications of what you're saying.
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Jun 13, 2021 10:41
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Don’t tell Nazis that they’re pathetic for having weak jaws. Tell them that they’re pathetic for having horses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_DnRn9hyFU
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Phlegmish posted:This seems extremely ill-conceived for multiple obvious reasons Well, the Koreans did lose 3" of penis length during the Finno-Korean Hyperwar, you know. 
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Phlegmish posted:It combats the fascists as individuals, which can be useful, but it does not combat their ideas. In fact, it implicitly reinforces their preconceptions and values, as even their opponents gleefully use those to judge them. ...... maybe you should look into what you’re railing against before you....rail against it. I assume you are talking about the image from the Graphic Novel “Preacher”. That scene is the middle of a rant about how the supposedly self proclaimed “ubermensh” are always gormless Weasel men.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:30
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Mocking individual fascists is the easiest thing in the world. Problem is, that's not enough, and they know how to deal with that. You need to deal with the root causes, while making violent examples.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:33
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Johnny Aztec posted:...... maybe you should look into what you’re railing against before you....rail against it. 
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Jun 13, 2021 16:54
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Johnny Aztec posted:...... maybe you should look into what you’re railing against before you....rail against it. Yeah but that rant isn’t about trying to fix or convince them it’s pure self satisfaction
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Jun 13, 2021 17:08
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah but that rant isn’t about trying to fix or convince them it’s pure self satisfaction
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Jun 13, 2021 17:12
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I mean that was the point. It doesn’t try and hide it What do you think it was
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Jun 13, 2021 17:22
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean that was the point. It doesn’t try and hide it It was the your addition I was laughing at.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:27
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Noone's really addressing his point which can be more succinctly put as asking the nazi where the gently caress is his chin is an insult to the chinless.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:37
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zedprime posted:Noone's really addressing his point which can be more succinctly put as asking the nazi where the gently caress is his chin is an insult to the chinless.
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Jun 13, 2021 19:16
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Phlegmish posted:It combats the fascists as individuals, which can be useful, but it does not combat their ideas. In fact, it implicitly reinforces their preconceptions and values, as even their opponents gleefully use those to judge them. I always figured it's a "live by the sword, die by the sword" thing. Like, I don't give a poo poo if someone is or isn't muscular, has or hasn't got a strong jaw, etc. but (1) many fascists do care and (2) most of them fail to live up to their own image of attractiveness and success to ridiculous degrees. I'm reminded that back in a feminist discussion group about ~7 years ago, there was a discussion whether it was okay to shame the editor-in-chief of some tabloid who relentlessly critiqued young women's appearance while he was conventionally very unattractive, old, with serious eyesight problems and mottled skin. I still think mocking him was justified. From that, of course, you could pull... Ellie Trashcakes posted:Yeah, with all sorts of unpleasant, classist and casually eugenic undertones. ... and while you can make a case for it buying into beauty or fitness standards, I offer this as a counterpoint: no, it's not nice to mock or shame someone for their appearance, especially elements they have no control over (like age, bone structure, skin colour, etc.) but at the same time let's not pretend that someone's appearance matters even if you remove the stink of ideology. Human beings aren't rational. To some, appearance matters a greater deal than to others. I will never begrudge a woman for not wanting to date me because she prefers athletic men with bodies sculpted like Greek gods, but at the same time body positive sometimes keels over into pointess ~everyone is beautiful!~ claptrap, which is both void of meaning and can never be true because attractiveness, fitness, etc. are always subjective judgements that everyone makes all the time. The best we can do is limit how it's poisoned or skewed in our own culture, which I am 100% on board with.
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Jun 13, 2021 21:10
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This is dumb. A master race dude isn’t going to care about your opinions trying to rationalize your way into it changes nothing. The only people who are realistically going to be hurt by these children’s insults are the type who you really wouldn’t go out of your way to throw them at CharlestheHammer has a new favorite as of 21:27 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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Jun 13, 2021 21:25
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McDonald's AI drive-thru bot accused of breaking biometrics privacy law
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So is the McD's AI in cahoots with the FBI agent and the covid vaccine that are spying on/controlling people, or are these 3 competing entities ?
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Jun 13, 2021 22:39
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CharlestheHammer posted:This is dumb. A master race dude isn’t going to care about your opinions trying to rationalize your way into it changes nothing.
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Jun 13, 2021 23:07
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:Yeah, with all sorts of unpleasant, classist and casually eugenic undertones. What does class do to chins? Control access to plastic surgery?
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Jun 14, 2021 00:53
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Phlegmish posted:It combats the fascists as individuals, which can be useful, but it does not combat their ideas. In fact, it implicitly reinforces their preconceptions and values, as even their opponents gleefully use those to judge them. Where the gently caress is your chin is a direct refutation of the white supremacist's belief that he belongs to a master race possessing superior dna which must remain unadulterated by the lesser dna of the non aryan. That is why his chin or lack thereof in this context is relevant.
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Jun 14, 2021 01:32
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So chinless people are subhuman?
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Carthag Tuek posted:So chinless people are subhuman? Yes. according to the supremist ideals espoused by the chinless man.
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Jun 14, 2021 02:13
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White supremacists are always their own best counter-arguments in more important ways than not living up to their own arbitrary standards of physical appearance nonsense, though.
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Atticus_1354 posted:Yes. according to the supremist ideals espoused by the chinless man. You can make this point without potentially harming others. The people that espouse white nationalist beliefs aren’t big with consistency anyway so you’re not hurting them.
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Jun 14, 2021 05:52
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[sitting in front of my computer chinlessly, my micropenis not obstructing my view in any way] and furthermore, we should stop making fun of Flemings simply for having a silly ethnic name. I bring this up as yet another completely random but poignant example, It's been an interesting discussion even if we didn't reach a clear consensus, let's move on. 
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Jun 14, 2021 06:45
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I'm not familiar with that sexual role playing technique.
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Jun 14, 2021 07:47
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It's hard to say for certain, because they're obviously not shown. But it appears that none of the three photos in that article are of someone dressed as a sumo wrestler or a snickers bar, and that seems to me like terrible journalism.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:56
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah but that rant isn’t about trying to fix or convince them it’s pure self satisfaction Dude you’re talking about Garth “I’m going to stop the story dead in its tracks to harp on about something i don’t like” Ennis. He’s the epitome of self satisfied-ness
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The fact that the small peepee emoji turned into a page-long derail about Nazis is kind of the point behind it. Something like "women are treated as second-class citizens in Korean society and this is fine, but make even the weakest slight against men and a lot of people suddenly get very upset for some reason"
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Jun 14, 2021 12:41
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Also says a lot how these news sources will jump on any excuse for a 'feminism has gone too far!' story, with a thin wrapping of orientalism.
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Woman who plunged to death from airport bridge was daughter of curry-poisoner Masumi Hayashi https://www.tokyoreporter.com/crime/woman-who-plunged-to-death-from-airport-bridge-was-daughter-of-curry-poisoner-masumi-hayashi/  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masumi_Hayashi_(murderer) 
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fisting by many posted:The fact that the small peepee emoji turned into a page-long derail about Nazis is kind of the point behind it. The thing is, by making fun of small penises they’re not making an argument against misogyny, they’re just showing they can be lovely in the exact same way. And likewise, telling a nazi off for having a weak chin does not attack their ideology, but just chastises them for hypocrisy. And that kind of implies there might be some validity to their ideology. “You’re supposed to be the master race, with a chin like that?” Vs “There is no such thing as a master race, fucko.”
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Such Fun posted:The thing is, by making fun of small penises they’re not making an argument against misogyny, they’re just showing they can be lovely in the exact same way. Versus? What about plus! There is no such thing as a master race because the only ones who think they are part of one have chins like that.
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Lobok posted:Versus? What about plus! No! The argument against a master race is not that some proponents do not meet their own criteria. Because that implies that with a better chin they would have a better claim to being the master race. And saying misogynists have small penises implies that having a larger penis would make them better men.
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Jun 14, 2021 15:09
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Such Fun posted:No! Big Dick = Master Race?
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June 4 2021 posted:Big Dick = Master Race? Reregs are for cowards of irrelevant genital size
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Lady Disdain posted:So is the McD's AI in cahoots with the FBI agent and the covid vaccine that are spying on/controlling people, or are these 3 competing entities ? Yes. All under the supervision of the reverse vampires...forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner!
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The Maddening Persistence of 'Hygiene Theater' 
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Jesus christ, Fine. I won't mock a Nazi. I'll just toss them off the cliff, as the only good nazi is a dead nazi.
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