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Epicurius posted:You realize Tobias would eat Rufus, right? Tobias can't even eat a stupid bunny, how's he gonna eat a talking mole rat
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# ? Jun 12, 2021 05:36 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 21:41 |
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So this series is pretty nuts, huh
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# ? Jun 12, 2021 07:13 |
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I hate to do this, but tonight's chapters are going to be delayed. For whatever reason I can't get a wifi signal on the computer I have the books. Hoping this will clear up tonight, but if not, hoping for tomorrow.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 03:49 |
A likely story. Curious that your last post was two hours ago
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 04:08 |
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Rumors of my internet's demise have been greatly exaggerated. (In case you're curious, because of the way my house is wired, my wifi is hooked up to a plug connected to a lightswitch. My sister and nephew came over earlier, my nephew tried to turn on a light, and accidentally flipped the wrong switch, and I didn't realize that until now. Now I did, and problem solved). Chapter 5 quote:“Hello. My name is Tobias. I …” He really needs to morph human every once in a while and let the other Animorphs buy him lunch. quote:“Tobias, where have you been staying? Your legal guardians both seemed to think the other one had you.” We've entered into an adventure of secret wills, unknown cousins, and buildings with really good thermals. Chapter 6 quote:My birthday. When was my birthday? This month? So maybe I'm off base here, but the fact that Marco, Ax, Jake, and Cassie all covered Tobias's escape here suggests he already has family who wants to take care of him.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 04:12 |
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A little late on this bit but it’s funny to me that Tobias regards Aria as a strange name to the point of being like “aria?? isn’t that the opera thing???” when today it’s an absurdly popular children’s name
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 04:22 |
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Soup du Jour posted:A little late on this bit but it’s funny to me that Tobias regards Aria as a strange name to the point of being like “aria?? isn’t that the opera thing???” when today it’s an absurdly popular children’s name And "sci-fi dystopia" is an absurdly popular children's genre. Which is a bit weird, really.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 06:48 |
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I don't know if this lawyer is cool for not narcing on Tobias or uncool for letting an obviously mentally damaged child leave his office with nobody to look after him.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 06:55 |
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Epicurius posted:So maybe I'm off base here, but the fact that Marco, Ax, Jake, and Cassie all covered Tobias's escape here suggests he already has family who wants to take care of him. Part of him, even pre-bird, wants to be "normal," which means having a semi-traditional family, even if they're divorced like Rachel's parents or derelict like Marco's dad was at the start of the series. Him and Ax are the only ones who aren't leading double lives at the moment - it's all war, all the time - but if the war ends well Ax will get to go home to his family, whereas Tobias doesn't really have much left except the friendships and relationships he's built with the others. Which of course are valid, but he's understandably internalised that craving for normality even way beyond the point where feeling different from the other kids at high school matters anymore. (But yes, I imagine this book is going to end with a cliche about how he realised the Animorphs are his real family.)
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 08:52 |
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Also, I distinctly remember being Tobias' age and massively overthinking my body language and facial expressions as he does (albeit, without the excuse of being trapped in hawk form.) Sometimes these books really get being 13 and hating all of the things.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 09:06 |
Pwnstar posted:I don't know if this lawyer is cool for not narcing on Tobias or uncool for letting an obviously mentally damaged child leave his office with nobody to look after him. Honestly if the kid shows up fully clothed in upper middle end clothing, visibly not hungry and not distressed whatsoever, clearly he's living somewhere. Also it's a lawyer that shares a wall with a laundromat, so I'd say not the top lawyer here lmao
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 13:58 |
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Honestly if the kid shows up fully clothed in upper middle end clothing, visibly not hungry and not distressed whatsoever, clearly he's living somewhere. Also it's a lawyer that shares a wall with a laundromat, so I'd say not the top lawyer here lmao This reminds me of a great line from one of my favourite author's otherwise mediocre novels (Peter Carey, His Illegal Self): quote:Then she waited for the lawyer, watching him stroke his mustache like a fool. She could not imagine how this man had ended up in this crappy little office with felt tiles on the floor. All those years in law school and then spend your life in loving Nambour, staring through the window at the Woolworths loading dock.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 14:27 |
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freebooter posted:This reminds me of a great line from one of my favourite author's otherwise mediocre novels (Peter Carey, His Illegal Self): Holy poo poo, I was not expecting to open this thread and hear about goddamned Nambour, that hit me like a truck. Also I remember really appreciating the way the kids approached this lawyer visit, they were properly wary and prepared for anything going wrong with it and aware it seemed sus.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 20:53 |
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Chapter 7quote:I should have met with the others. That was the plan. But once I was back in the sky, I just didn’t want to. That's bad for multiple reasons, obviously, both for Bek and for the valley. Chapter 8 quote:Once before when I was feeling low, I went to the Hork-Bajir valley. They’d made me feel better. After all, the Hork-Bajir think I’m their liberator. They think I’m George Washington or whatever. It’s hard not to feel good under those circumstances. First off, Toby rocks. Second, yea, it's hard to hate the Hork-Bajir. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jun 15, 2021 |
# ? Jun 14, 2021 04:16 |
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From their point of view, OK, sure, go ahead with the dangerous guerilla raids, but... sure hope Jara and Ket and Toby have kept the secret human identities of the Animorphs to themselves rather than telling every Hork Bajir they free!
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 14:29 |
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^^^It seems like Tobias is the only one who’s been back since the Ellimist secured the valley, and even if the free Hork Bajir revealed that the “Andalite bandits” were actually humans, they wouldn’t be able to give much in the way of identifying details (though I suppose Chapman would be able to figure it out). Or if they did, uhh…Ellimist magic! This has me wondering about the exact mechanism of Hork Bajir oral history. The way Tobias framed it in the Chronicles, it seems like some kind of word-painting? Anyway I find it fascinating. Kind of reminds me of Moana’s vision that inspires her to take the boat. (Hork Bajir Chronicles was almost as good as I remember it, btw. I love world building stuff anyway, and the way it’s written is well structured, consistent, and heartfelt. Although I realized that I’d conflated a lot of the imagery with Dinotopia since I read them at about the same time, lol) quote:Humans didn’t exactly have an unblemished record of tolerance for different races. After all, before this valley had belonged to the Hork-Bajir, it had probably been inhabited by Native Americans. I thought this was very interesting for KAA to include, especially with the Noble Savage tropes around the Hork Bajir in the chronicles.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 15:23 |
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You know, thinking about it a bit, but like, couldn't the Arn just... solve all the Yeerk's problems? Like, at the very least give em a non-sentient pretty good host body to use as a stop-gap while figuring out what alterations to the yeerks themselves they'd want. I mean of course the yeerk leadership seems to just be all about domination and exploitation in all aspects, but, you know.
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 02:12 |
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Mazerunner posted:You know, thinking about it a bit, but like, couldn't the Arn just... solve all the Yeerk's problems? Like, at the very least give em a non-sentient pretty good host body to use as a stop-gap while figuring out what alterations to the yeerks themselves they'd want. I am going off my vague memories of the books we haven't read but the impression I got was the Yeerks had never experienced a brutal back breaking war before. They also hadn't had distinct political factions before like the Yeerk Peace Movement vs the war movement. They're individuals and have individual experiences and not all of them like having hosts but they come off as being otherwise being incredibly uniform in their desires and response. Encountering humans changed everything for them because humans responded with total warfare even in the face of certain death, and Jake's ruthlessness along with Cassie's luck in giving them the morphing box forced them to splinter. Their initial forays into the galaxy were sweeps for them. The idea of having alternative ways of getting what they want simply wasn't needed until they met a brutal resistance that forced them to consider alternatives.
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 02:35 |
They probably could, but they're Arnholes.
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 02:35 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:They probably could, but they're Arnholes. I think it's this. The Yeerks have just invaded their planet and are stealing their Hork-Bajir. The Arn are in no mood to do the Yeerks favors.
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 03:10 |
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Hey Arnhole Scoop kid's afraid to leave his scoop
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 03:16 |
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Epicurius posted:I think it's this. The Yeerks have just invaded their planet and are stealing their Hork-Bajir. The Arn are in no mood to do the Yeerks favors. favors are one thing, but as part of a treaty where in exchange the Arn receive "ok we'll stop invading your planet and enslaving you"? maybe but I don't think the yeerks would uphold that
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 03:25 |
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Chapter 9quote:Morning. The meadow. Tobias's inability to hunt is really going to have a pretty bad effect on him, I'd have to think. This is, partly, I think, him being conflicted between his human and hawk sense. Chapter 10 quote:“Just tell me this,” Marco raged. “When do we get a vacation? I mean, Ben-Hur rowing that Roman galley while the guy whipped him and the other guy banged on that big drum got more downtime than we do.” The average person would think a 4-5 foot tall bipedal bladed scaly dinosaur was a deformed person? I'm not sure I believe that.
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 03:42 |
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Not sure I believe Tobias has forgotten his birthday - all the stuff about how he glares emotionlessly at people when human now, sure, but his memories are all perfectly intact. Unless it's because his deadbeat guardians weren't sure either so this pre-dates him being a bird.
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 03:52 |
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I can totally understand Tobias losing track of his birthday, even if he's just been a hawk for half a year. I doubt his family ever celebrated his birthday, and once your birthday stops being a Thing that gets celebrated, the only time you really remember it is if you obsess over your age, or if you deal with doctors a lot and have to give your birthdate out constantly. With him probably having no friends or family of note, his birthday's probably been a very non-event for most of his life. Now that he's a hawk the idea of days having numbers is probably starting to lose meaning, just like, I mean. You lose track of time during the pandemic? That but BIRD. Kind of concerned how they are stuffing two book-sized plots in together, chronologically right after doing the double-plot of David and the world conference. The stakes keep going UP Marco is RIGHT
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 04:13 |
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I think Tobias also tends to disassociate a bit from his human memories. But I guarantee that Rachel knows when his birthday is, even if she had to break into the school records to find it.
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 04:24 |
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FlocksOfMice posted:I can totally understand Tobias losing track of his birthday, even if he's just been a hawk for half a year. Ummm excuse me I think you will find, as they told David and as Chapman more recently commented, it's only been "a few months." It's also going to be funny to watch KA avoid mentioning precisely what age he's supposed to be turning. edit - we're almost halfway through the series now and I genuinely can't remember whether she discards this floating limbo timeline gradually down the track, or if in the final story arc it gets immediately retconned to "oh yeah we're now 16 and have been doing this for three years"
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 10:46 |
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freebooter posted:Ummm excuse me I think you will find, as they told David and as Chapman more recently commented, it's only been "a few months." In the second to last book Jake explicitly says he is 16 and he's been fighting the war since he was 13, before that it's limbo
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# ? Jun 15, 2021 13:21 |
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Chapter 11quote:I felt uncomfortable being paired with Rachel. She’d seen me eating roadkill. She hadn’t mentioned it, and I didn’t think she would. Rachel’s blunt, but sensitive enough, too. Of all people, Rachel is the last person to make fun of him for his bird problem....probably the first person to want to help him about it. Chapter 12 quote:My heart was beating even faster than usual. I might be about to see a cousin who wanted to take me in. Or I might be sniffing around the edges of a clever trap. I mean, in a certain sense, I guess he is a freak of alien technology?
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# ? Jun 16, 2021 05:39 |
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Very little crazy has happened so far and this is already one of my favorites. I really enjoy Tobias' weird perspective on things if nothing else, it's distressingly relatable. also no book has ever given me a good sense of flying better than Tobias books tbh
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# ? Jun 16, 2021 16:53 |
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FlocksOfMice posted:I really enjoy Tobias' weird perspective on things Epicurius posted:I am proud of being a red-tailed hawk, Yeah. That is a really weird way to phrase that and I wasn't expecting it
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# ? Jun 16, 2021 20:31 |
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FlocksOfMice posted:also no book has ever given me a good sense of flying better than Tobias books tbh I very much liked the touch of how he says being outside a skyscraper at eye level with humans gives you a sudden perspective shift.
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# ? Jun 17, 2021 01:26 |
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Chapter 12quote:<Oh, man! She’s going for a cab!> I yelled as the hotel doorman waved for a taxi. It was cool. That's reason enough. Chapter 14 quote:It took a moment for me to realize what I was looking at. It was a shabby-looking building from the air. But the truth is, most buildings look pretty bad from the air. You just see roofs and air conditioners. I mean, technically, as Tobias said, he didn't "demorph", but. Also, one guess on what "DEADLY MIDGET FREAK! THE LIVING RAZOR!" is.
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# ? Jun 17, 2021 04:47 |
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absolutely nobody: nobody at all: Tobias: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ey_q1QziMU
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# ? Jun 17, 2021 05:12 |
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Just one of those side shows with
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# ? Jun 17, 2021 05:12 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:absolutely nobody: Alternately, a different aircraft, but not much more ridiculous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di4CgWtVF7s&t=269s
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# ? Jun 17, 2021 05:21 |
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Chapter 15quote:Inside it was about what I’d expected. A very sad place. Miserable, unhappy animals in cages a tenth the size they should have been. Dim lighting that was swallowed up by the black-draped walls. So Aria has a limo? Also, marketing Bek as an alien is a good strategy. Chapter 16 quote:There wasn’t a lot of debate back at the barn that evening about what to do with the baby Hork- Bajir. I love Ax's general disdain and bafflement with modern science. quote:I sat comfortably in the rafters and eavesdropped on Jake’s homework. I still enjoy reading when I get a chance. Sometimes I’ll go to the park or the beach, places where people read out in the open. I’ll find a nice updraft or steady breeze, float fifty or sixty feet up, and read over someone’s shoulder. This is going to be a disaster.
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# ? Jun 18, 2021 03:42 |
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Epicurius posted:This is going to be a disaster. New thread subtitle
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# ? Jun 18, 2021 03:51 |
And he would.... disseminate... these pictures? Strange choice of words.
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# ? Jun 18, 2021 04:29 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:And he would.... disseminate... these pictures? Strange choice of words. It's a perfectly cromulent word.
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# ? Jun 18, 2021 13:52 |