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Lukashenko did just declare September 17 a “National unity day”, brand new bank holiday. https://president.gov.by/ru/events/v-belarusi-uchrezhden-den-narodnogo-edinstva If you’re confused what this refers to, search for “1939 September 17 Poland”.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Lukashenko did just declare September 17 a “National unity day”, brand new bank holiday. https://president.gov.by/ru/events/v-belarusi-uchrezhden-den-narodnogo-edinstva It's not even a day off. Just another petty gently caress you to Poland for their support of Tikhanovskaya. On that note, Duda's done a nice bit of counter-trolling by visiting a memorial to Belarusians killed by Polish anti-Soviet partisans. https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/06/08/in-historic-gesture-polands-president-commemorates-belarusians-killed-by-polish-partisans/
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Oh my bad, I misread that as a bank holiday. Still a remarkably petty move. Also lol @ Duda.
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Paladinus posted:It's not even a day off. Just another petty gently caress you to Poland for their support of Tikhanovskaya. It's perplexing, because "Bury", a bandit and child killer associated with the massacre, is considered to be one of the forgotten soldiers that Duda's party is ever so keen on promoting.
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Mokotow posted:It's perplexing, because "Bury", a bandit and child killer associated with the massacre, is considered to be one of the forgotten soldiers that Duda's party is ever so keen on promoting. Do they do that openly? From what I've read, they turn a blind eye when their supporters and affiliated nationalist orgs do that, but the official position is that Bury himself is a war criminal.
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Yeah, I don't think anybody who's not an outright ONR fascist covers for Bury. IPN has classified his actions as "bearing features of genocide," that's not something you can pretend didn't happen. Also he was a snitch who sold out all of his underground contacts, so you need to be really into genocide to defend that fucker.
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So apparently some lady that shouted "Kaczor do wora, wór do jeziora" - "put duck in sack, throw sack into lake" during last years anty PiS protests got charged with animal cruelty 
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The very essence of Bird Law in practice
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Also, I thought it’s a lyric from this song: https://youtu.be/PqGsT6kR80I Sorry for inflicting this on you if you haven’t encountered Cypis yet
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I’ll have to report you for indiscriminate use of Polish music, sorry.
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Mokotow posted:Also, I thought it’s a lyric from this song: Pretty sure everyone online is familiar with Polish Cow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogZdnkz0o5Q
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Tevery Best posted:Yeah, I don't think anybody who's not an outright ONR fascist covers for Bury. IPN has classified his actions as "bearing features of genocide," that's not something you can pretend didn't happen. Also he was a snitch who sold out all of his underground contacts, so you need to be really into genocide to defend that fucker. Oh, you sweet summer child. IPN just happened to change its mind a few years back.  The PiS establishment is in this awkward place where they're not quite ready to really cover for him if pressed, but they're perfectly happy to keep him in the cursed soldiers mythos when at liberty to preach to the choir (or rather, nod approvingly as the choir preaches to itself). Guess the eastern poland nazi vote can be complicated sometimes!!!
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Forget cursed soldiers... Something I definitely noticed is that straight up nazi is definitely "in" in the mainstream more and more. Look at this clothing brand designs if you thought "red is bad" couldn't be topped: https://www.instagram.com/slaviapolska/ Look at this mma idiot unironically being sponsored by another racist clothing brand https://www.instagram.com/p/CPvRUieBPAA/
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Anne Frank Funk posted:Forget cursed soldiers... Something I definitely noticed is that straight up nazi is definitely "in" in the mainstream more and more. I think the "it's okay to be white" is especially funny coming Poland, where minority means Ukrainian.
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FBK has been declared by court to be an extremist organisation. This is probably going to put a hamper on active opposition coordination for a few years. https://ria.ru/20210609/fbk-1736377673.html
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The Latvian right has been salty at Leonid Ragozin ever since an article he cowrote a couple of years back called out the close ties between some Azov people and visible Latvian nationalists and periodically brings out his tweets to paint him as a Russian imperialist/supremacist who happens to be anti-Putin. Much of it is bad faith Twitter bullshit, but I realize I don't know where to begin forming an opinion about who's who in the Russian opposition. Tips?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:FBK has been declared by court to be an extremist organisation. This is probably going to put a hamper on active opposition coordination for a few years. FBK and Navalny's HQ's were, as LLC's. Any next organisation not affiliated with him can take the lead, he just needs to communicate the next org names in his insta, for example
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a podcast for cats posted:The Latvian right has been salty at Leonid Ragozin ever since an article he cowrote a couple of years back called out the close ties between some Azov people and visible Latvian nationalists and periodically brings out his tweets to paint him as a Russian imperialist/supremacist who happens to be anti-Putin. That was good journalism, Nacionālā apvienība can cry me a river. His "Russian supremacist crimes" are 1) not supporting the last bastion between feeble gay Western Europe and the savage Russian hordes, the smug face of Raivis Dzintars, and 2) suggesting that opportunistic xenophobia was involved in the ousting of Ušakovs from Rīga's mayoral seat. As for the Russian opposition, you'll need to be more specific. The short answer to "who is who" is that at the moment all figureheads capable of effectively capturing public attention are imprisoned, exiled, or dead. Erulisse posted:FBK and Navalny's HQ's were, as LLC's. Any next organization not affiliated with him can take the lead, he just needs to communicate the next org names in his insta, for example I understand that. In my opinion, declaration of extremism is a substantial escalation from Kremlin, and I will be very surprised to see if Navalny's team, or traceable associates, is allowed to organize legally in the near future. I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong. The movement likely has options to sustain itself and avoid substantial bleeding, since Navalnyi's incarceration has galvanized them, but I don't believe they'll be able to grow meaningfully at least until Belarus and America stuff both blow over to some extent. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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Dunno about WRT to Latvia, but WRT to Ukraine Ragozin is typical racist Russian "liberal" who considers Ukrainians dumb peasants.
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OddObserver posted:Dunno about WRT to Latvia, but WRT to Ukraine Ragozin is typical racist Russian "liberal" who considers Ukrainians dumb peasants. He's working with Re:Baltica here, so it's just honest to god investigative journalism, to best of my awareness. His articles have been on points across our political spectrum, but that's also fairly descriptive of Re:Baltica general - they run a surprisingly competent shop, for the scarce resources and ample hostility they get. You got some of is Ukraine stuff handy to check out?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I understand that. In my opinion, declaration of extremism is a substantial escalation from Kremlin, and I will be very surprised to see if Navalny's team, or traceable associates, is allowed to organize legally in the near future. I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong. The movement likely has options to sustain itself and avoid substantial bleeding, since Navalnyi's incarceration has galvanized them, but I don't believe they'll be able to grow meaningfully at least until Belarus and America stuff both blow over to some extent. 2 things - one can literally buy an LLC here for cheap but no one needs an LLC to organize a paypal and instagram profile and get a name of a group of people And the second being that Belarus thing is not going to blow over anytime soon. Minsk was literally the only way to fly out for russian people who are legally bound with no travel or home arrest stuff. A small joke a page ago about iron curtain falling on belarus borders has a base and was not a joke at all, sadly.
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I think we've now identified 10 Russian assassinations, with 6 killed and 10 survivors, and only 5 of the survivors actually being the target. We've actually got a backlog of several Russian assassinations we've still got to work through, and there's more suspect incidents that could likely be assassinations we discover on a regular basis.
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Erulisse posted:2 things - one can literally buy an LLC here for cheap but no one needs an LLC to organize a paypal and instagram profile and get a name of a group of people I hear you. What I fear, to clarify, is that if like some Yabloko offshoot does a totally not FBK thing, they'll just get nuked, incorporate they or not, if they try to capitalize on the support of movement Navalnyi has gathered behind himself. I very well may be just in a dramatic mood about the extremism declaration. As for Belarus and upcoming Biden dialogue/recent shift in American politics - in my opinion, Putin likes to espouse (whataboutist) virtue signalling at times like this, so he may see a fair amount of value of keeping FBK or Furgal stuff quiet until he determines his plans with Belarus, USA, and maybe NS2. I very much agree with you that the Belarus situation is far from over, and may ultimately result in an irreversible upset to the status quo.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I hear you. What I fear, to clarify, is that if like some Yabloko offshoot does a totally not FBK thing, they'll just get nuked, incorporate they or not, if they try to capitalize on the support of movement Navalnyi has gathered behind himself. I very well may be just in a dramatic mood about the extremism declaration. Ah in that sense I feel you there, they already started cracking down on people who have a following. Famous bloggers like Hovansky (detained) and Dud' (criminal investigation) under some old and/or bullshit accusations in one day. They are rushing to quiet people down until at least 'elections' pass and are sending very strong messages. It will require a persona outside of russia. Time is a flat circle after all.
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Brown Moses posted:I think we've now identified 10 Russian assassinations, with 6 killed and 10 survivors, and only 5 of the survivors actually being the target. We've actually got a backlog of several Russian assassinations we've still got to work through, and there's more suspect incidents that could likely be assassinations we discover on a regular basis. Do any other countries other than North Korea and Saudi Arabia do this these days? Covertly assassinating their citizens in diaspora?
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Erulisse posted:Ah in that sense I feel you there, they already started cracking down on people who have a following. Famous bloggers like Hovansky (detained) and Dud' (criminal investigation) under some old and/or bullshit accusations in one day. They are rushing to quiet people down until at least 'elections' pass and are sending very strong messages. Now Hovansky is not a name I've heard in a while, time really is a flat circle if he finds himself knee-deep in poo poo. Brown Moses posted:I think we've now identified 10 Russian assassinations, with 6 killed and 10 survivors, and only 5 of the survivors actually being the target. We've actually got a backlog of several Russian assassinations we've still got to work through, and there's more suspect incidents that could likely be assassinations we discover on a regular basis.  That's one hell of a sentence.
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Paladinus posted:They are not as poo poo at the whole assassinations business then, huh. Well, I guess when they're really successful, you don't hear a lot about it. That's why you never hear about the Danish intelligence service PET murdering people. Cunning and ruthless, those Danes. Who would suspect anything devious of PET??
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This thread is about the Bykov assassination attempt, the same guys in the FSB team who followed him and tried to kill him were the same as in the Navalny case: https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1402581688589467651 There's so many of these we even found possible signs of another operation at the same hotel Bykov stayed at just before he was poisoned a year after has poisoning: quote:The Domina hotel in Novosibirsk is part of an Italian-owned hotel chain. On 13 August 2020, the director of investigations of Navalny’s Anti-corruption foundation Maria Pevchikh arrived in Novosibirsk, one day before Alexey Navalny, and made her way to the Domina hotel where she had a booking. She had noticed she was surveilled on her way from the airport, and despite several manoeuvres trying to escape her followers, she found them at the hotel when she arrived. We've got a lot of flight data about where this team has been flying to, and we've found a lot more of these sudden deaths and comas that follow the same pattern of behaviour as the other assassination attempts we've looked into. There's a lot of their travel unaccounted for, so those could be assassination attempts that didn't make it to the media, and if that's the case then there's dozens of targets, either being followed by these teams, or already attacked by them.
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Erulisse posted:2 things - one can literally buy an LLC here for cheap but no one needs an LLC to organize a paypal and instagram profile and get a name of a group of people You can still get out via Minsk-Istnbul (large hub that connects to everything) or a few more exotic destinations.
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a podcast for cats posted:Much of it is bad faith Twitter bullshit, but I realize I don't know where to begin forming an opinion about who's who in the Russian opposition. Tips? Do you read Russian? If yes, following the twitters of journalists of the few independent outlets left like Meduza, The Insider and Mediazona are good - they are interesting people, post cool insights into the life in Russia, dunk on the overt or covert Kremlin propagandists and are friends with other normal people (the chief editors of each, Alexey Kovalev, Roman Dobrokhotov and Sergei Smirnov are all great) Without knowing Russian I don't know, most of them are internally focused. One Russian opposition focused english-speaker is Kevin Rothrock who works for Meduza. Otherwise I would read the english versions of the Insider, Meduza and the Moscow Times as they have decent analysis and interesting articles on the inner kitchen. Brown Moses posted:This thread is about the Bykov assassination attempt, the same guys in the FSB team who followed him and tried to kill him were the same as in the Navalny case: Hey BM, just last week finished your book -- really good stuff. Optimistically looking at journos slowly adopting Bellingcat's OSINT methodology for investigative journalism in Eastern European countries. Somaen fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Chernobyl why are you doing a thing again?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEO5VBo6R4w Edit: Wait, is this going to mix with the Nord Stream 2 gasline? 
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