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Fluffy Bunnies posted:I know you're shocked about this but yes, people are disrespectful of other peoples wishes a lot (this has been the norm around here long before the vaccine happened) Everyone here wore masks until we defeated covid and the governor lifted the restrictions. It's just that now that covid is over people don't give a gently caress if there's still a huge sign in the way of the door that you have to step around to get in which says to wear a mask inside
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Commercial businesses, their owners, their managers regional and otherwise, and the overworked and underpaid employes don't really give a poo poo anymore as long as you're spending money. They never did. The employees probably did during the worst of the pandemic because their literal lives were at stake, but I think retail workers are just exhausted and their chud bosses never cared. I'm glad and lucky that I work for a local library where the people above us cared enough about us and the community that we were able to spend the whole pandemic basically closed inside to the public. I can't imagine the mental breakdown I'd have had working in a convenience store or whatever during this.
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poverty goat posted:Everyone here wore masks until we defeated covid and the governor lifted the restrictions. It's just that now that covid is over people don't give a gently caress if there's still a huge sign in the way of the door that you have to step around to get in which says to wear a mask inside 16,000 new cases friday says we're nowhere near done with this poo poo yet. E: Oh and 16,000 new yesterday. Sigh. Though hey at least they're getting lower because they aren't testing people who have been vaccinated unless they're in the hospital
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Jun 13, 2021 14:20
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Mask mandates here in PA are quickly breaking down, stores with "must wear masks" signs posted aren't really enforcing it anymore and I'm now seeing a mix of people - employees and customers - just dropping the masks altogether. Definitely feels like a switch was flipped and now anyone who was maybe on the fence before is just done with masks.
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Jun 13, 2021 14:57
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I look at it this way: Herd Immunity is 80% or better vaccination in total population. The CDC reports 64% of adults have at least one vaccination. Ergo, that's not even close to 80% or better of the total population, because children, who also happen to be disease vectors. This issue is just gonna sort itself out
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Jun 13, 2021 18:09
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Im feeling pretty miserable today. I got my first shot yesterday and I think I am going to be passing out early tonight. I have work in the morning so I hope I am able to make it.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:23
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Which one did you get? Edit: I got Pfizer, and it gave me a slight sore arm and a mild sick headache for 24 hours. It was like the beginning of a migraine but with none of the follow-through.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:34
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If you got it yesterday you're very likely to be fine or nearly fine tomorrow
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Sjs00 posted:I look at it this way: Herd Immunity is 80% or better vaccination in total population. That's entirely reliant on the infectiousness of the disease, the efficacy of the vaccine, and a dozen other factors. I'm getting annoyed how since about last March people have been throwing around a given % as what's required for herd immunity with absolute confidence, especially as (whether they're OPEN ER UP or doomposting) people seem to also have an absolute conviction that it's a sharp divide, that the minute the 200 millionth arm gets jabbed baloons and streamers fall from the ceiling and covid just disappears, and/or before that point everyone needs to be in a full NBC suit just to stand in the garden.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's entirely reliant on the infectiousness of the disease, the efficacy of the vaccine, and a dozen other factors. Fair enough, this just goes to show just how specific the knowledge required and how little the public really knows about well, poo poo. No wonder the rate of vaccination is never going to hit 'herd immunity' whatever that is specifically, most everyone has no idea what that is exactly and they're not gonna get a jab until they do and maybe not even then .. Would it be a fair assumption that the rate of infectiousness of Covid is going to go up, and not down? Sjs00 fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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Jun 13, 2021 19:18
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Pookah posted:Which one did you get? Moderna, I have a fever of 101 and I am going to take some fever medication and sleep off the rest of the sunday a little later. I feel like absolute poo poo right now.
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Jun 13, 2021 19:35
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Katamari Democracy posted:Moderna, Acetaminophen (Tylenol) worked great for my side effects and it's one of the drugs they say won't interfere with your immune response
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smoobles posted:Acetaminophen (Tylenol) worked great for my side effects and it's one of the drugs they say won't interfere with your immune response Im going to let the medicine run its course. Sure I am miserable, but not compared to when I had Covid for a solid month and having to go to the hospital for it. This is tame compared to that. I'll fight it off. But I am going to be taking it real easy and drinking a ton of ice water. Im sure round 2 is going to suuuck.
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Jun 13, 2021 19:52
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Katamari Democracy posted:Im going to let the medicine run its course. Sure I am miserable, but not compared to when I had Covid for a solid month and having to go to the hospital for it. This is tame compared to that. You had covid really bad. Per the experiences in the old thread, most folks who had covid then got round 1 did real lovely, then round 2 was pretty easy. I hope this is the worst of it for you.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:04
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Katamari Democracy posted:Im going to let the medicine run its course. Sure I am miserable, but not compared to when I had Covid for a solid month and having to go to the hospital for it. This is tame compared to that. My symptoms responded quite well to ibuprofen, and cleared up after about 24 hours of poo poo. It was reassuring to know that it wouldn't last. It was quite bad, but if I have to do it again, for a third dose, I'm signing right up.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:16
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Yeah, I am a living testament that you do not want this virus. Spent days at the hospital, felt like I was having a heart attack with very difficulty breathing. The works. I still tested positive for weeks after I left the hospital forcing me to get on unemployment (Thankfully, I found a much better job that pays a lot better). You do not want to get Covid. Even if it did not hit you as hard or you "Think" you may or may not have had it. When it hits you it will knock you down hard. Sorry it took me awhile to get my first shot but I had doctors telling me to hold off for a little bit, plus I started a new job, had to fix my truck, and a lot of other things needed to be in order before I got it. Im thankful I do. And I look forward to getting my 2nd shot in three weeks.
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Jun 13, 2021 21:08
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2nd dose done and dusted. With zeneca as the first and pfizer as the second, let's see the wild ride.
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Jun 13, 2021 21:40
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explosivo posted:Mask mandates here in PA are quickly breaking down, stores with "must wear masks" signs posted aren't really enforcing it anymore and I'm now seeing a mix of people - employees and customers - just dropping the masks altogether. Definitely feels like a switch was flipped and now anyone who was maybe on the fence before is just done with masks. My town in Oregon is still masking about the same as before that idiotic CDC announcement. I think I've seen two unmasked people in stores, one of them a girl who went to get a mask from the sanitizing station up front but they were out so no mask for her, and one an old guy who another customer confronted who produced his vaccination card to demonstrate he was fully vaccinated. Oh, and a couple weeks ago an angry-looking New Age mom with a toddler in tow. Everyone else here is still masked up, and it's nice to see.
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Jun 13, 2021 22:06
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This is probably a daft question but do the side effects of the vaccines indicate anything about the strength of your immune system?
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Jun 13, 2021 22:09
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Fuller9x posted:2nd dose done and dusted. With zeneca as the first and pfizer as the second, let's see the wild ride. Keep posting this trip report I think I'm doing the Mix and Match Combo sometime in the next 2 weeks.
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Jun 13, 2021 22:14
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CaptainSarcastic posted:My town in Oregon is still masking about the same as before that idiotic CDC announcement. I think I've seen two unmasked people in stores, one of them a girl who went to get a mask from the sanitizing station up front but they were out so no mask for her, and one an old guy who another customer confronted who produced his vaccination card to demonstrate he was fully vaccinated. Oh, and a couple weeks ago an angry-looking New Age mom with a toddler in tow. and ye the pnw will inherit the us I'd love to hear more about the mix n match stuff
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Jun 13, 2021 22:19
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My county is weird, if I go 10 minutes east everyone is wearing masks everywhere, 10 minutes west no one is, and 10 minutes north it's about 50/50. Before you ask, yes this roughly aligns with certain voting demographics.
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Jun 13, 2021 22:34
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Crankit posted:This is probably a daft question but do the side effects of the vaccines indicate anything about the strength of your immune system? To my knowledge there’s no evidence to suggest either way.
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very few people masking up in Madison, but we're close to 70% and a "socialist utopia" i dont think anyone I know hasnt been fully vaccinated yet
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As I stepped out of my car to go to the grocery today I could see a dude without a mask waiting by the door, and as I was walking in from the parking lot, the other dude he was with comes jogging from their vehicle with two fresh surgical masks, which they put on before they went in. I saw, in my mind's eye, a vision: 
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Crankit posted:This is probably a daft question but do the side effects of the vaccines indicate anything about the strength of your immune system? Nope. Though if you have a weak immune system you usually wont have side effects but no side effects doesn't mean you have a weak immune system. Though if you've had covid before the side effects are usually worse.
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Went to work, showed I had a 102 fever. Work told me to go home. I slept for 15 hours and I still feel like absolute poo poo. Oh well, at least I can lay in bed and take it easy.
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explosivo posted:Mask mandates here in PA are quickly breaking down, stores with "must wear masks" signs posted aren't really enforcing it anymore and I'm now seeing a mix of people - employees and customers - just dropping the masks altogether. Definitely feels like a switch was flipped and now anyone who was maybe on the fence before is just done with masks. I can back this up. I went grocery shopping on Friday and I'd say it was 60% masked, 40% unmasked. Most of the employees were, but definitely saw a few who weren't. This wouldn't bother me as much except you know 100% that at least a healthy portion of unmasked people are also unvaccinated. There were also 2 pretty big events in the Pittsburgh area - Steel City Con and the Three Rivers Arts Festival - that I'm curious to see what comes of it. Steel City Con looked like it was packed with people inside a convention center, and from photos it looks like maybe 1% of people were masked up. Cons are already gross as hell in the best of cases, I feel like you're gonna hear about at least a few people catching it there. The Arts Festival was all outdoors and pretty spread out, although you obviously had people crowding around vendors and what not.
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A Fancy Hat posted:I can back this up. I went grocery shopping on Friday and I'd say it was 60% masked, 40% unmasked. Most of the employees were, but definitely saw a few who weren't. This wouldn't bother me as much except you know 100% that at least a healthy portion of unmasked people are also unvaccinated. I'm curious about the big events as well. We were going to go to Arts Fest on Friday but our daughter had to stay home because of a cold. Our thought was that since it's outdoors, the risk to her wouldn't be super high. Playgrounds are basically 100% maskless already, even if there's still signs up saying you should be wearing them. Anyone taking their life into their hands to go to Steel City Con probably has made other bad decisions in their life.
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Novavax came out with stellar US data and they will apply sometime in the 3rd quarter so there should be a 4th vaccine coming. It's not adenovirus or MRNA so some holdouts might opt for it. It can be stored at room temp and seems to have much less side affects than the others. So could be the top choice for boosters. It's also much smaller than the others so they can fit a bunch of booster strains into one shot. And they hope to combine it with their flu vaccine.
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A Strange Aeon posted:I'm curious about the big events as well. We were going to go to Arts Fest on Friday but our daughter had to stay home because of a cold. Our thought was that since it's outdoors, the risk to her wouldn't be super high. Playgrounds are basically 100% maskless already, even if there's still signs up saying you should be wearing them. My wife and I went to the Arts Fest on Saturday. Definitely had a few "oh poo poo, better avoid that crowd" moments but I never felt unsafe walking around downtown or at the point or anything. It was busy, but it wasn't wall-to-wall people in most places. We usually go to Steel City Con but this felt like a HUGE mistake. They said they were going to let vaccinated people go unmasked, but then admitted that they weren't actually going to check for proof of that. Plus you for sure had people travelling in from other states. Just seems crazy risky for a show that's going to happen again in August anyway. Just wait 2 months, see where things are, rather than jump the gun like this.
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Another Bill posted:Keep posting this trip report I think I'm doing the Mix and Match Combo sometime in the next 2 weeks. In all seriousness, as others have reported, the injection site is tender. Like someone has repeatedly been punching your arm in one spot, so it feels bruised to really really stiff depending on how I contract the muscles. The shoulder is also really stiff and since it is my sleeping arm, it was a restless sleep waking me up when I rolled over to that side. I was a little foggy for the rest of the day after the Pfizer shot, so was drinking tons of water and peeing like a race horse. The Astrazeneca kept me in that same fog for two days, it seems to not be there with the Pfizer, just the sore arm persists.
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Cthulu Carl posted:Was set to go to the art museum yesterday, but the dog decided his rear end needed to be blood and poo poo firehose Saturday night, and so ended my first attempt at a non-work, non-family social interaction since this all began... Oof. Gastroenteritis sucks. I hope your pup is feeling better really soon. On-base is having a fireworks thing on July 1st, no masks required, so I'll probably go to that masked to expose my service dog to fireworks. I'm kinda surprised to see the military rolling it back so fast considering the on-base clinic isn't even vaccinating dependents yet because they keep saying they haven't done all the active duty yet but whatever, I fuckin' guess.
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We seemed to hit a stride with the pandemic where people mostly dropped the social distancing but had their mask situation figured out. Definitely seems like a lot more people are sneaking their masks off or popping their nose out the last few weeks since the CDC announcement, though. I have to imagine it’ll only get worse since my work wants to reopen with the masking/distancing precautions in place, but now it’ll be in defiance of the CDC and public guidelines + now we’re bringing in a bunch of WFH people who haven’t had to figure out how to wear a mask all day every day comfortably.
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Even with all of this, I'm nervous about going. But... At this point we're never going to hit zero cases, so I have to learn to be comfortable existing around vaccinated people, even a large group of them. We'll see. Feels weird to be doing that, even with precautions, but in my state it is 100% F&S@D now. Even food service and grocery workers stopped wearing masks about a month ago; I almost never see masks anywhere outside of medical facilities. So I'll comfort myself with the fact that I'm still being way more careful than most around here.
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A Fancy Hat posted:I can back this up. I went grocery shopping on Friday and I'd say it was 60% masked, 40% unmasked. Most of the employees were, but definitely saw a few who weren't. This wouldn't bother me as much except you know 100% that at least a healthy portion of unmasked people are also unvaccinated. I may be about to eat my words but I’m fairly optimistic. I’ve been following our cases/vaccinations since the clinics started rolling out and cases have been plummeting anywhere between 30-50% every week. We’re now regularly having days where no one dies from it and hospitalizations are also very low. I guess we’ll see what happens. Maybe this makes me an rear end in a top hat but if this causes a bunch of idiots who refused to get vaccinated killed then so be it. gently caress them
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Someone I know went to a toy show/convention in Southern California a few weeks ago, they were giving J&J vaccinations and offering anyone who got one a pass to skip waiting in line for stuff. It’s weird because, yay more vaccinations, but it also means unvaccinated people are knowingly packed in there in the convention center since their shots wouldn’t be effective yet. I guess offering line skips is clever since if there are unvaccinated people are assumed to be there either way, it means they spend less time milling around other people.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:I may be about to eat my words but I’m fairly optimistic. I’ve been following our cases/vaccinations since the clinics started rolling out and cases have been plummeting anywhere between 30-50% every week. We’re now regularly having days where no one dies from it and hospitalizations are also very low. I guess we’ll see what happens. I think it's fine to be optimistic right now. Covid cases in PA (and especially around me) are dropping every single day. That's even with things like the mask mandate going away and people doing a whole lot more stuff in public that would have caused an explosion in cases before the vaccine. That said - like 60% of my wife's family is unvaccinated and refuse to get the vaccine. We've tried many, many, many times to get them to get vaccinated. At this point, there's nothing more either of us can do. If they get sick, it's not going to be a shock.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:I may be about to eat my words but I’m fairly optimistic. I’ve been following our cases/vaccinations since the clinics started rolling out and cases have been plummeting anywhere between 30-50% every week. We’re now regularly having days where no one dies from it and hospitalizations are also very low. I guess we’ll see what happens. Reminder: I gotta bury them assholes. Also, those assholes getting sick is how the variants mutate. Which is the entire crux of my argument entirely with cautions being dropped so fast. That and people who are vaccinated not being tested basically at all in my area. Almost all covid testing areas have shuttered.
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