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i was considering learning to play pit lord since he seems like a chill hero and this info has been very enlightening
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Johnny Joestar posted:i was considering learning to play pit lord since he seems like a chill hero and this info has been very enlightening u dont really play pit lord, per se. its more of a farming simulator or smth
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May 22, 2021 00:28
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bawfuls posted:I like some of the taunts you can earn. Still working towards the Treant one where he says "ah fresh fertilizer" Some of the heroes have very bad taunt choices, some are good. Johnny Joestar posted:i was considering learning to play pit lord since he seems like a chill hero and this info has been very enlightening Ignore the bitchmade gamers in this thread who do not suggest playing pitlord with a swift blink and daedalus for 8000 damage crits.
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May 22, 2021 00:39
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Acerbatus posted:Some of the heroes have very bad taunt choices, some are good.
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May 22, 2021 00:50
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Tiny seems really good right now with the shard.
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May 22, 2021 00:59
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Smythe posted:theres only 1 quest in dota: to drive you enemies to uninstall the game Johnny Joestar posted:i was considering learning to play pit lord since he seems like a chill hero and this info has been very enlightening You are well on your way to winning the video game Underlord is one of like three heroes that are impossible to safelane against so you win a huge number of games just by making the enemy carry get mad
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May 22, 2021 03:46
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Smythe posted:theres only 1 quest in dota: to drive you enemies to uninstall the game duoing techies tusk and all chatting why do they keep letting that guy die to try to start fights was a favorite of mine
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May 22, 2021 06:02
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Smythe posted:theres only 1 quest in dota: to drive you enemies to uninstall the game the first step toward dota enlightenment is realizing this the second step is realizing that your teammates are also your enemies
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May 22, 2021 06:06
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Anyone here play much void spirit? I've been spamming him for like a month mid and sometimes off lane but it seems like I'm only popping off one in five games (I'm bad but my opponents are too and I'd probably just stomp them if I used even a bad mid that scaled attack damage or something). Generally building a couple nulls and brown boots then depending on whether or not I'm really dominating the lane going straight for an aghs / bots or in a harder lane phase boots euls into aghs. Ive tried plus damage items instead like a deso/daedelus/nullifer but it doesn't seem as effective as getting that aoe silence x2 early. Any tips on itemization or in general
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May 22, 2021 06:59
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flashman posted:Anyone here play much void spirit? I've been spamming him for like a month mid and sometimes off lane but it seems like I'm only popping off one in five games (I'm bad but my opponents are too and I'd probably just stomp them if I used even a bad mid that scaled attack damage or something). You want a bottle then a euls at some point but the aghs is so good, having 2 charges on a pulse that silences is handy
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May 22, 2021 09:50
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so far my underlord experience has been a couple of lost games because of carries that refused to take advantage of the massive amount of space i created and were more obsessed with farming up items that were already covered by someone else or were busy running off on their own to get constantly shredded
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May 22, 2021 12:15
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Played my 2nd ever game of centaur, lane did ok,, last hitting is a joy with his attack animation. Mid game went good we were winning but slowly spectre got to big and could tank our entire team so we lost. The midgame felt good and always managed to kill sniper, but late game I felt I wasn't doing any damage. Build: treads, vanguard,pipe, crimson guard, assualt cuirass and aghs. What should my main focus/role be late game? Second game we stomped the lane, I got so fat at 20 minutes I could tank and push all towers and game was easy win.
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May 22, 2021 22:06
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Last time I played was in 2016. I don't really have any interest in playing serious business Dota but ability draft is stoll hilarious. Doom with chakra/illuninate/surge? the zoom zoom spell/assassinate. Sorry, did you want to lane? Had a game as Chen? I think it was? with mystic snakes/tinker rockets/march/rearm. Boy the lane did not go well for them. Also, so many skills changed in the last 5 years (duh). Really funny when I pick a skill but it is lacking a critical part of why I picked it like berserker's blood magic resist or omni shield magic immune. Oops.
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May 22, 2021 22:19
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Ability draft is super super fun but like 90% of games are won or lost depending on how well your team focuses on denial picks. Depending on what is in the pool, it can be way more Important to deny the enemy team from getting certain combos or even just certain skills (aftershock, overload, and a number of passives come to mind here as skills that become totally broken when taken in AD)
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May 22, 2021 22:27
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Was hanging with some old Dota friends and they told me their 5 stack has an opening for pos 5, my old position. I haven't played since 2019. Tell me it's a bad idea.
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May 22, 2021 22:54
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DisgracelandUSA posted:Was hanging with some old Dota friends and they told me their 5 stack has an opening for pos 5, my old position. I haven't played since 2019. Tell me it's a bad idea. Do you hate yourself and other people if so go for it
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May 22, 2021 23:11
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DisgracelandUSA posted:Was hanging with some old Dota friends and they told me their 5 stack has an opening for pos 5, my old position. I haven't played since 2019. Tell me it's a bad idea. find out why the previous guy quit
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May 22, 2021 23:41
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causticBeet posted:Ability draft is super super fun but like 90% of games are won or lost depending on how well your team focuses on denial picks. Depending on what is in the pool, it can be way more Oh yeah for sure. But sometimes certain skill combinations end up working out way better than you expect. Those are the best games. Also, draft disables. They win games.
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May 22, 2021 23:58
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Currently on a 9 game win streak with Medusa mid. Heroes that can close out games are good if you are a smart carry that knows where/when to farm safely and hit timings. Only bought the Aghs in 2 of the games.
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May 24, 2021 17:44
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Watching Gorg go for 9k MMR, he's at 8975, one win to hit the goal. Hes playing stereotypical epic music, donations are pouring in. His team is losing and the enemy has a really nasty combo of Doom with Ice Armor and Timbersaw. Then his Disruptor glimpses the enemy Razor out of a TP back to base so he insta buys back runs it down mid and drops all his items. What a wet fart of an ending, but I'll be damned if it's not the most dota 2 ending.
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May 27, 2021 20:10
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whats really messed up was 9k used to be a big deal but now its not even top 100.
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I've played enough dota I tend to just go with the flow when I end up with griefers and stuff but I swear oracle is a cursed hero. Nearly clawed my way to a win even with a griefer on my team that had gone 0-15 because he didnt get nether shawl, had megas, it's totally won... ...Then our carry inexplicably dies solo. Well he has buyback. He then just doesn't use it until throne is at 300 hp and unsurprisingly it dies right after he buys back. The guy had been all "please keep trying!!" the entire game to the guy who was griefing, he wasn't raging or anything, he just randomly decided not to win. I swear that only happens when I pick oracle, the hero is legitimately cursed. 
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Acerbatus posted:I've played enough dota I tend to just go with the flow when I end up with griefers and stuff but I swear oracle is a cursed hero. its in his lore, idiot quote:Ascendants to the Great Seat of Cymurri had for ages imported their Oracles exclusively from the Ivory Incubarium, high in the hollow peaks of the Zealot's Range, with a downpayment made at the time of the embryo's conception and the balance surrendered on delivery of a mature, well-trained prophet to the Gate of the Graven King.
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This is a tough game to try and come back to. I have a decent amount of time played, mostly from the initial beta, but I seem to have lost most of my game sense and timing. Also, quite a lot of changes have been made to the supporting role. Maybe I was just ignorant, but I don't really remember people pulling lane creeps into the jungle on the regular. It is fun to learn though. Should I be stacking camps for my carry constantly? I know that I get a bounty from allies killing the stacked creeps. I guess you have to try and balance helping out the carry in the lane and doing jungle stuff.
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Gunder posted:This is a tough game to try and come back to. I have a decent amount of time played, mostly from the initial beta, but I seem to have lost most of my game sense and timing. Also, quite a lot of changes have been made to the supporting role. Maybe I was just ignorant, but I don't really remember people pulling lane creeps into the jungle on the regular. It is fun to learn though. Should I be stacking camps for my carry constantly? I know that I get a bounty from allies killing the stacked creeps. I guess you have to try and balance helping out the carry in the lane and doing jungle stuff. Depends on how the lane and game are going and who your cores are. If you have a Magnus or a core who can efficiently do ancient stacks then stack more. If your core is gonna die brutally if you leave but is otherwise fine, stack less. If you lost your lane so hard that you being in lane is meaningless, stack and rotate more. if your jungle is gonna just be invaded and the camps will be stolen then don’t stack at all
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Even though Lich has been changed a lot, he’s still extremely noob friendly. Start with 1 set of tangoes and then as many mangos as you can buy. Spam your Q nuke on the bad guys until they die. Figure it out from there. I’ve been playing A LOT of Clinkz 1pos. He’s oppressive as a pushing hero once you get his shard going. His level 1-3 landing is pretty drat good, but he generally loses control when the offlaners / supports hit ~5 and threaten to one-shot him. But whatever, go to the jungle and spam Dark Pact on big creeps. Falcon Blade —> Treads —> Deso + Orb of Corrosion —> Shard —> Dragon Lance/Aghs/Scythe/BKB. The power spike hits when he turns level 15 (skeleton walk cooldown) with shard. Protip: you can re-cast skeleton walk while in skeleton walk to trigger your shard. Very good for drive-bying supports while taunting just to establish vision / begin setting up your Siege Fortress. Also treads switching will drop invis (and spawn skeletons). If my team is winning at 20 mins, the game ends at 25. Like I said before, Clinkz is just sooooo oppressive when you can set up like 8 skeletons while you plink away at objectives. Super fun to abuse.
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DNK posted:Clinkz words Do you view him as a ganking hero? In lower tiers he’s often used as a roamer after establishing an early damage item like orchid. Is your first 20m just hitting creeps as hard as you can?
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Not a ganker as 1pos. You need to be farming to hit your timings. You can TP into a T1 to clean up kills if your opponents are diving, but that’s about it. Unless you’re in Archon ranks, just assume that 3/5 heroes are carrying dust and every single highground ramp is obs+sentried; Skeleton Walk might as well read: run fast and spawn dudes. Dying is unacceptable — you’re a timing hero that needs to slam into that level-15, treads-deso-falconBlade-shard as hard as possible at minute 21 while spamming “I’m so strong guys, I’m so strong” and crushing objectives. edit: best lane support is Ogre Magi by a humongous margin. Clinkz loving loves Ogre. edit2: Clinkz 1pos assumes your mid isn’t also a 20-25 min timing hero. If you have a Tinker or Sniper mid, you’re very likely going to get rolled. If you have a Viper or Pugna mid, everything is going to be just fine. DNK fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Watching Gorg go for 9k MMR, he's at 8975, one win to hit the goal. Hes playing stereotypical epic music, donations are pouring in. His team is losing and the enemy has a really nasty combo of Doom with Ice Armor and Timbersaw. Then his Disruptor glimpses the enemy Razor out of a TP back to base so he insta buys back runs it down mid and drops all his items. What a wet fart of an ending, but I'll be damned if it's not the most dota 2 ending. I'll never forget watching topson stream and a couple of his teamates being absolutely lovely because he went off meta at the time with Gyro mid. The streaming audience was even worse, with only a couple of people recognizing that he was building to counter the opposing team's combo. He basically forced his team to win the game while they constantly complained and the streaming audience just heaped mountains of poo poo on him. Its not better at higher mmrs.
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Just played Monkey King for the first time. What a fun hero!
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Old Clinkz was way better.Shuka posted:I'll never forget watching topson stream and a couple of his teamates being absolutely lovely because he went off meta at the time with Gyro mid. The streaming audience was even worse, with only a couple of people recognizing that he was building to counter the opposing team's combo. He basically forced his team to win the game while they constantly complained and the streaming audience just heaped mountains of poo poo on him. It's probably true across all games since gamers have children's brains but it is amazing how even the highest end players in games like this or League are still thin-skinned meltdown machines. You'd think after tens of thousands of games you'd grow out of it.
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Gunder posted:Just played Monkey King for the first time. What a fun hero! Most fun carry to play imo, it's too bad he got hit so hard with the nerfs.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Old Clinkz was way better. Absolutely, and the dudes who do remain chill and focused must be gods of emotional stability. I have to start appreciating those players more.
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The game is built to tilt you. The faster you realize “wtf why’d you die” is super loving toxic and that you could just say “hey man, try to make sure to toggle rot after your hooks so Rubick can’t get a steal” the game would be a better place. I’ve had multiple 4-man mute games in a row this weekend, and it’s just the loving worst. I’d take radio silence over their bullshit any day. It’s obviously internet tough guy anonymity but the world and DOTA could use a lot more kindness and positivity - it’s just hard to see past others’ mistakes. Can’t control them; can control yourself and your own play. No idea if I’m preaching to the choir, here.
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Compared to pretty much any other team game a "bad play" in dota is just too punishable and tilting. Like in soccer/rocket league/any "ball" sport, if you mess up the other team scores maybe a single goal at worst, which is bad but not game ending since the game state resets after that goal anyway. Or like CS:GO or other team shooters, you lose a round, but you start a new round and can recover. Not dota though, you gently caress up and now you're losing one or two towers and are playing at a disadvantage, and your team has to adjust their play for the next like 10 minutes to deal with the repercussions of pudge missing that hook or void missing a chrono
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feedtheid posted:The game is built to tilt you. The faster you realize “wtf why’d you die” is super loving toxic and that you could just say “hey man, try to make sure to toggle rot after your hooks so Rubick can’t get a steal” the game would be a better place. I’ve had multiple 4-man mute games in a row this weekend, and it’s just the loving worst. I’d take radio silence over their bullshit any day. I mostly play rubick in disgusting turbo games and I love when a pudge doesnt immediately toggle rot after every hook (or WDs who don't toggle voodoo restoration when they ult, but that's more common). it's very sportsman-like to let me have the spell too 
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goku i won't do what u tell me
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feedtheid posted:The game is built to tilt you. The faster you realize “wtf why’d you die” is super loving toxic and that you could just say “hey man, try to make sure to toggle rot after your hooks so Rubick can’t get a steal” the game would be a better place. I’ve had multiple 4-man mute games in a row this weekend, and it’s just the loving worst. I’d take radio silence over their bullshit any day. Honestly even helpful advice, unless someone has already shown to be friendly or receptive to it, can be detrimental. Doubly so if the advice is up for interpretation like “you should be pushing/farming/rotating on this part of the map” and not just “this is a fact about xyz skill”
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Yea I've tried being purely constructive and extremely careful with wording to be friendly and people just immediately get defensive and flame.
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Sab669 posted:Yea I've tried being purely constructive and extremely careful with wording to be friendly and people just immediately get defensive and flame. Unfortunately, that’s part of the problem. You won’t ever be able to stop out or change the behavior of 4/5 of your team, and the only remaining solution when playing pubs Is to simply mute the toxic person and move on. That circles back to simply doing our part to be part of the solution and not part of the problem, though.
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