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KillerQueen
Jul 13, 2010


I've been seeing more and more of these posts lately.
https://i.imgur.com/lUmeE9P.mp4

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


There is certainly a segment of the "left" that sees everything on Earth as a transactional relationship where justice begins and ends with getting paid for or paying for something. I guess the liberal mind prison is hard to leave if you're really in love with twitter attention, need to build a brand out of your face and words, or if you're just a narcissist who believes in nothing. Maybe all those are the same thing, idk.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

There is certainly a segment of the "left" that sees everything on Earth as a transactional relationship where justice begins and ends with getting paid for or paying for something. I guess the liberal mind prison is hard to leave if you're really in love with twitter attention, need to build a brand out of your face and words, or if you're just a narcissist who believes in nothing. Maybe all those are the same thing, idk.

Reading this post counts as a microagression, buy me premium

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator
Women are going their own way

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
as long as they take my stupid, fat, ugly mother in law with them!!!

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer

So what is the answer? Constant and perpetual alienation for everyone always? Men permanently removed from the child-raising process? Polygyny? What do these people want?

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

exmachina posted:

So what is the answer? Constant and perpetual alienation for everyone always? Men permanently removed from the child-raising process? Polygyny? What do these people want?

your money and attention but mostly your money

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
you’re just assuming it’s only talking about heterosexual relationships. maybe it’s like that for wlw and mlm too. also polycules

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

exmachina posted:

So what is the answer? Constant and perpetual alienation for everyone always? Men permanently removed from the child-raising process? Polygyny? What do these people want?

Twitter fame and a boost to her “intimacy doula” brand. Legitimately don’t know if intimacy doula is sex work or like telling people what they should do when they have sex, possibly over zoom.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
oh by “finished” I thought she meant “finished reading”

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
*in the bedroom pleasuring my gf with my sex doula on zoom in the background* call the play coach

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

drat horror queefs posted:

Women are going their own way

That's men. Women are coming their own way, and ngl good for them

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer
My post mostly came from incredulity. I mean, has she tried not sleeping with these people? If that's a deal-breaker I don't see what was lost.

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer
This is the first time I have encountered the term doula and so it is a birth companion. So who is the intimacy doula here? The author of the book or the tweet. Cos if it is the latter then I suddenly understand, we are talking about grift in the face of widespread alienation. That I understand

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost
Kinda confused on if the tweeter wrote the book or read the book, but the comments seem to be mostly ladies whose idea of proper masculinity is just "sugar daddy".

It feels like women trying to convince themselves its ok to be an escort/have an onlyfans/etc. I think it is ok to do those things, but it might not be healthy to convince yourself that you're just doing the exact same thing as every woman who dates men.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It’s just someone trying to become the main character of the day, thinking she’ll be the first one to manage to ride that tiger. She doesn’t believe any of that and may not believe anything at all, except that she should be making bank with her boutique astrology and sex doula businesses.

Twitter is best understood as a rhetorical mode rather than a sequence of claims that can be understood and investigated.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Twitter is best understood as a rhetorical mode rather than a sequence of claims that can be understood and investigated.

This feels genuinely insightful to me. Maybe that means I'm dumb for not seeing it this way already?

One More Fat Nerd has issued a correction as of 01:36 on Jun 15, 2021

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

lol what's that from

One More Fat Nerd posted:

This feels genuinely insightful to me. Maybe that means I'm dumb for not seeing it this way already?

Don't feel too bad. Better to admit you don't know something than pretend and look dumb as hell

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

One More Fat Nerd posted:

This feels genuinely insightful to me. Maybe that means I'm dumb for not seeing it this way already?

I think I get it, but it might also have been a stroke.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
When you think about it, sex is just like sex work, only without the work part.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

indigi posted:

you’re just assuming it’s only talking about heterosexual relationships. maybe it’s like that for wlw and mlm too. also polycules

even the more woke tweets I saw assumed it was about heterosexual relationships, which is interesting
https://twitter.com/YaaAsantewaaBa/status/1404416999132893189?s=20

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

christmas boots posted:

I think I get it, but it might also have been a stroke.

People on twitter don’t actually mean what they say, but rather use things and events as an occasion to adopt a certain rhetorical posture that is some combination of strident, patronizing, moralistic, dismissive, and contemptuous. It doesn’t matter what’s being discussed or what might be true, but only what a person can do with the subject rhetorically.

The purest distillation of that is a form like “all the hot takes about [x] show that a lot of you have never [y] and it shows.”

Or “you might be surprised by [x], but all of us who have been through/are [y] know all about it and have been trying to tell you for years.”

Maybe the simplest version is “you might think [x], but it’s obviously [y] and you can’t see that because [x] is wrong with you.”

And I don’t mean that people on twitter are insincere or lying. Twitter is just a thing that makes you participate under certain conditions when you post there. That sex doula is probably a perfectly normal person when she’s not on twitter.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/ztsamudzi/status/1404449686107394050?s=20

are women who date men scabs

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ :)

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


I like some of Silvia Federici's work but this is getting out of hand

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
ok, yes I do understand that now. thank you for that explanation. for some reason it feels like this post is sarcastic but I mean it sincerely

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Jesus. this is what happens when you attach “labor” to concepts, as soon as an anarchist heard the phrase “emotional labor” without understanding it this discourse was inevitable

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

so apparently that isn't even the main theme of the book

quote:

“Does anyone date anymore?” Today, the authorities tell us that courtship is in crisis. But when Moira Weigel dives into the history of sex and romance in modern America, she discovers that authorities have always said this. Ever since young men and women started to go out together, older generations have scolded them: That’s not the way to find true love. The first women who made dates with strangers were often arrested for prostitution; long before “hookup culture,” there were “petting parties”; before parents worried about cell phone apps, they fretted about joyrides and “parking.” Dating is always dying. But this does not mean that love is dead. It simply changes with the economy. Dating is, and always has been, tied to work.

Lines like “I’ll pick you up at six” made sense at a time when people had jobs that started and ended at fixed hours. But in an age of contract work and flextime, many of us have become sexual freelancers, more likely to text a partner “u still up?” Weaving together over one hundred years of history with scenes from the contemporary landscape, Labor of Love offers a fresh feminist perspective on how we came to date the ways we do. This isn't a guide to “getting the guy.” There are no ridiculous “rules” to follow. Instead, Weigel helps us understand how looking for love shapes who we are—and hopefully leads us closer to the happy ending that dating promises.
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374713133

this is some pretty straight forward marxist influenced writing.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 221 days!

hmm, well, what if the man works in the labor market and renumerates the woman by providing for her and her children from the proceeds?

i think we're on to something... something very progressive

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Atrocious Joe posted:

so apparently that isn't even the main theme of the book

https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374713133

this is some pretty straight forward marxist influenced writing.

Can't believe Marxist terminology is being appropriated and misused by radlibs

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
these people think loving your partner is unremunerated but never say thank you for listening to them tell stories about their coworkers using their first names as if I know who any of these people are. where’s my remuneration

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 221 days!

StashAugustine posted:

Can't believe Marxist terminology is being appropriated and misused by radlibs

i can't hear you over the sound of the market freely optimizing outcomes

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
You gotta run your love life like a corporation, y'see

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 221 days!
anyhow, i don't have twitter or much troll game, but for someone with both there's a lot of fun to be had telling them they can just say they want the man to pay for dinner and they don't have to feel like they're betraying past generations of feminists

e: depending on how much cringe you're willing to post for the sake of trolling, there's also the incredibly ugly "he's paid for it now so you're obligated" line of reasoning which follows from this

Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 04:38 on Jun 15, 2021

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

There is certainly a segment of the "left" that sees everything on Earth as a transactional relationship where justice begins and ends with getting paid for or paying for something. I guess the liberal mind prison is hard to leave if you're really in love with twitter attention, need to build a brand out of your face and words, or if you're just a narcissist who believes in nothing. Maybe all those are the same thing, idk.

Liberals have completely bought into the capitalist narrative and are taking it to its logical conclusion not realising how completely loving deranged it makes them to discard the masks of humanity that normal people need to function

Basically what happens when you believe you just need to change humanity to better navigate the system rather than admit it is the system that has problems

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
The future is sex work becoming the normal way to pay for student loans, to learn how consent isn't always consent unless money is involved.

Or perhaps it's just a few weird edgelords. :thunk:

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

YaketySass posted:

The future is sex work becoming the normal way to pay for student loans, to learn how consent isn't always consent unless money is involved.

Or perhaps it's just a few weird edgelords. :thunk:

The future is now for a lot of students, actually.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The future is now for a lot of students, actually.

You're right, it's just funny to see that being praised as liberatory. You can pragmatically defend legalization on pragmatic bases but IMHO a lot of its advocates have a frivolously libertarian "the government is the problem" attitude that creepily reads like an entrepreneurship model.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

It rules how much of incel theory is in mainstream relationship advice now. The difference in how it's sold to it's audience comes from whether or not the author is personally getting laid.

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

exmachina posted:

So what is the answer? Constant and perpetual alienation for everyone always? Men permanently removed from the child-raising process? Polygyny? What do these people want?

if there were an answer, she would immediately be out of business

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