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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

It sucks I can't see the New Top Gun cause of China's bullshit

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Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
I admit it's kind of funny just loving with the CCP trolls on Reddit.

I usually just mention the Tibetan in their backyard needs his water bowl changed.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Justin Godscock posted:

I admit it's kind of funny just loving with the CCP trolls on Reddit.

I usually just mention the Tibetan in their backyard needs his water bowl changed.

That just affirms Chinese power though

They are probably just mad you are saying the quiet part loud while nodding in agreement

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Alan Smithee posted:

That just affirms Chinese power though

They are probably just mad you are saying the quiet part loud while nodding in agreement

poo poo, changing my strategy then by saying Taiwan rules.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Atopian posted:

You mean the former diplomat and the mystery consultant who is somehow personal friends with Kim Jong Un?
Yes, very normal people, with no reason to expect unusual treatment.

Yes, but you said that China grabs foreign criminals guilty of unsympathetic crimes, not random tourists. "Former diplomat" is not a crime. And given that North Korea is an ally of China, I'm not sure how being buds with Kim Jong Un makes that person a criminal either.

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

Justin Godscock posted:

poo poo, changing my strategy then by saying Taiwan rules.

Taiwan, and I cannot stress this enough, #1

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Fearless posted:

Yes, but you said that China grabs foreign criminals guilty of unsympathetic crimes, not random tourists. "Former diplomat" is not a crime. And given that North Korea is an ally of China, I'm not sure how being buds with Kim Jong Un makes that person a criminal either.

The examples I gave were unsympathetic crimes, but I subsequently broadened that to "special". And former diplomats and 'international consultants' at the level of 'personal friends of heads of state' definitely count as special.
At least, to me. If that's normal for your social circles, maybe stay out of China.

A more specific response: the person is chosen based on the message.
If it's a low-key message, unsympathetic criminals.
If it's a stronger message, 'people associated with that country's foreign policy'.
Isn't it obvious?

The diplomatic point at which 'random tourists' were on the menu would be long after the point at which international tourism between those countries had been suspended.

Atopian fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Jun 13, 2021

the panacea
May 10, 2008

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Embassy personnel / people in the diplomatic corps are usually not considered to be real civilians as a good chunk of them are actually working for their respective countries intelligence agencies.

Even if you leave that line of work you'll still show up on various watch lists because how can one really be sure that the new job is not just a cover.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Atopian posted:

The examples I gave were unsympathetic crimes, but I subsequently broadened that to "special". And former diplomats and 'international consultants' at the level of 'personal friends of heads of state' definitely count as special.
At least, to me. If that's normal for your social circles, maybe stay out of China.

A more specific response: the person is chosen based on the message.
If it's a low-key message, unsympathetic criminals.
If it's a stronger message, 'people associated with that country's foreign policy'.
Isn't it obvious?

The diplomatic point at which 'random tourists' were on the menu would be long after the point at which international tourism between those countries had been suspended.
I figured you were talking about sexpats, mostly

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Nessus posted:

I figured you were talking about sexpats, mostly

Not so many of them these days.
The whole virus thing meant that anyone who could reasonably bail, did. After all, China did gently caress up a bunch of things at the start - how was anyone to know how much deeper and more thoroughly other countries would subsequently gently caress up?

Then, the effective border closure that was timed such that few non-citizens could get through it (the required paperwork either having expired or being available only to special people).

Basically the expats who are left right now are mostly lifers, whether via family connections or lack of alternatives.

Edit:
...which is not to say that sexpats can't be lifers, or vice versa, but for those with that sort of dedication to the cliche, Thailand is right there.

SerCypher
May 10, 2006

Gay baby jail...? What the hell?

I really don't like the sound of that...
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1404292017589473281

HBO going all out on Chernobyl season 2.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Of course it had to be Taishan

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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If it's anything like the last time a problem in China was deemed to not be at crisis level then RIP to the bulk of the Western Pacific

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

If it's anything like the last time a problem in China was deemed to not be at crisis level then RIP to the bulk of the Western Pacific

Na they wouldn’t let that happen again!

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
ccp: "the brave cleanup crew from Xinjiang are on hand to assess the situation!"

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
"Using an innovative application of organic materials, the ever clean-and-green minded CCP have managed to reseal the leak without 'any human suffering'". Good to know!

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.
I’m new here but couldn’t 2 global powers both be bad and uncool? They could both be the ultimate result of the material circumstances of their regional hegemony, but, then again, I’ve only read about 40 books on Marxist theory and I know that someone here has lapped me on that.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

The North Tower posted:

I’m new here but couldn’t 2 global powers both be bad and uncool? They could both be the ultimate result of the material circumstances of their regional hegemony, but, then again, I’ve only read about 40 books on Marxist theory and I know that someone here has lapped me on that.

This thread is about one of them hth

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

MarcusSA posted:

This thread is about one of them hth

The unnamed thread can only salivate.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
This China thread is honestly more informative and interesting than the d&d one.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

WarpedNaba posted:

"Using an innovative application of organic materials, the ever clean-and-green minded CCP have managed to reseal the leak without 'any human suffering'". Good to know!

There’s an old Russian/Ukrainian joke about the Chernobyl disaster that goes something like this:

People say Russia is behind in technology but let me tell you about Russian robotics.

They send in the fancy Japanese robot to the hot zone, and it works about 10 minutes before the radiation fries the computer.

So then they try the robot the Americans sent, less frills so maybe it’s more robust. It lasts about 20 minutes before they lose connection.

So then they sent in the Russian robot and it works for two hours straight without a problem until the loud speaker says “okay private, you can take your smoke break now”

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The North Tower posted:

I’m new here but couldn’t 2 global powers both be bad and uncool? They could both be the ultimate result of the material circumstances of their regional hegemony, but, then again, I’ve only read about 40 books on Marxist theory and I know that someone here has lapped me on that.

Whoa there, slow down galaxy brain. :eyepop: If two countries could simultaneously do bad things, maybe... three?? Four??? We're getting into some wild poo poo here.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Responding to increasing radiation levels by simply raising the allowable level of radiation is powerful PRC energy.

Tormented
Jan 22, 2004

"And the goat shall bear upon itself all their iniquities unto a solitary place..."

Fojar38 posted:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/china-draconian-repression-of-muslims-in-xinjiang-amounts-to-crimes-against-humanity/

Well I can say for certain that this is the first time I've seen Amnesty International use the phrase "dystopian hellscape" in an official report.

Dystopian hellscape with Chinese characteristics

nong
Apr 20, 2016

Never Forget
The Century Of National Humiliation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57328508
complaints about millennial but with chinese characteristics

quote:

The 27-year-old didn't expect it to be very difficult. His parents managed to start from scratch on their own, and now own several properties in their hometown, a small town near Shanghai.

However, when he started his own restaurant business in 2018, Sun Ke soon realized that big franchises and delivery platforms already dominated the market. He was too late to the race.

"To compete with others on delivery apps, my business partner and I had to take money out of our own pockets to waive the delivery fee and give discounts to clients. And the real money makers are still those big franchises."

After two years, he ended up losing more than 1 million yuan ($156,907, £110,169). Late last year, he shut the business for good.

quote:

Originally an anthropological term, "involution", or "neijuan" in Chinese - literally translated to an inward curling - refers to a social concept where population growth does not result in productivity or improved innovation.

Today, the term is broadly used to express a feeling of burn out.

The trend started from the most elite university campuses in the country when pictures of students taking hard work to the extreme went viral on the internet last year. In one of the photos, one student from Tsinghua University was operating on his laptop while riding a bike.

The student was crowned as "Tsinghua's Involuted King", and the idea of involution began trending across China's young generation, resonating especially with millennials born after the 1990s and Gen Z.

quote:

China now has the second highest number of billionaires in the world. But it's also home to some 600 million people whose monthly income is barely 1,000 yuan ($154).

quote:

"If bosses could relate to people who work for them, 996 won't exist, neither will involution," one user commented, referring to a culture in China's business world of working 9am to 9pm, six days a week.

"Capitalists should just shut up," others wrote.
turns out china is capitalists???

also working 9am-9pm 6 days a week no wonder they are going to rule the world by 2020

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
"Late to the race" does kinda sum up the situation for anyone born after 1980, I'll admit.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

nong posted:

turns out china is capitalists???

also working 9am-9pm 6 days a week no wonder they are going to rule the world by 2020

Sounds like a worker's paradise, comrade.

Mimesweeper
Mar 11, 2009

Smellrose

LostCosmonaut posted:

Responding to increasing radiation levels by simply raising the allowable level of radiation is powerful PRC energy.

OK, racist :rolleyes: Forgot what forum we're in.

edit: oh, I really did forget what thread I was in though. This time it was the OSHA thread.

Mimesweeper fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jun 15, 2021

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Mimesweeper posted:

OK, racist :rolleyes: Forgot what forum we're in.

edit: oh, I really did forget what thread I was in though. This time it was the OSHA thread.

Yeah you tell em!!!!!!

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Thank you for posting these; I still get weekly mileage out of the cat pooping in the rice cooker.

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jun 20, 2021

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

insulting the government of china doesn't make you a racist you totalitarian boot licker

Mimesweeper
Mar 11, 2009

Smellrose
click the link and read the posts you goofs

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

What?

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
爱 么 给

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



please don't doxx me

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Re: the millennial thing, the Chinese equivalent of boomer energy is real and powerful.

Had to listen to so many people complain about 'the youth of today', with their crazy demands like fair pay, the chance to ever own a house, a work contract that their boss actually honours, not being casually insulted at work, that sort of thing.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's fun since the olds were very literally handed their wealth when housing was privatized and people got their work unit apartments, which suddenly were these huge initial sums that could be invested in business. It was the seed that set the entire economy going and not a single person who got it worked for it at all, they were just in the right place at the right time.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

Somebody told me this dude was on a pilgrimage in Japan where people wear those hats for, I dunno, why ever religious people wear hats. The only thing really unusual in the picture is him being white and having a stupid expression on his face. He was probably a Filthy Frank-type youtuber or something. I haven’t looked into it so this may be a horrible racist lie. Please don’t tell anybody about my horrible racist lies.

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Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Nigmaetcetera posted:

Somebody told me this dude was on a pilgrimage in Japan where people wear those hats for, I dunno, why ever religious people wear hats. The only thing really unusual in the picture is him being white and having a stupid expression on his face. He was probably a Filthy Frank-type youtuber or something. I haven’t looked into it so this may be a horrible racist lie. Please don’t tell anybody about my horrible racist lies.

Nah, I like the story of him just being a goon having an existential crisis because Japan is nothing like anime/vidya.

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