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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/JoshMatlow/status/1404835926627471360 slaughtered like a goat in a hotel bathroom. 
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Jun 15, 2021 21:20
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Baronjutter posted:Do you think capitalism and the status quo is actually incredibly good but wish, as an upper middle class to rich person you got even more handouts and tax breaks from the government? Well boy do I have a party for you. Everything will stay exactly the same but the government will give you huge rebates on luxury "green" purchases like your new electric SUV or the solar system you installed on your 5 br vacation cabin. Don't worry, they won't blow your taxes on any of that lefty green poo poo like transit or bike lanes, your consumption and lifestyle can remain exactly the same but you can feel so so green and good. you forgot giving cover to vague alt-health fads and vaccine skepticism. And organic agriculture, as long as its corporate!
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Jun 15, 2021 21:56
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Beelzebufo posted:And organic agriculture, as long as its corporate! There's no other kind, really. It takes so much work to obtain and maintain an organic certification that the chances of an independent farmer doing it, even if they don't use pesticides and such, is basically nil.
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Jun 15, 2021 22:56
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2021/6/15/1_5471509.html So Paul is blaming the current situation in the Green Party on the Liberals and that their poaching of Atwin as an attack on her in order to win the next election. quote:She also placed blame on the Liberal Party for targeting her success by poaching Atwin, stating that above all else, the past week has shown her that her Liberal opponents are willing to do what it takes to win a majority in the next election. To which Melanie Joly replied "sorry you feel that way." Meanwhile Operation Black Voters Canada is disappointed in the whole situation because it threatens to regress their goals of better representation and diversity in Canadian politics. Their main point is that they feel that Paul has not been given the same respect or treatment as other party leaders or even Elizabeth May. I'm of two minds on the subject. One, yes there is definitely a racist angle to all of this and Paul is getting singled out for who she is. On the other hand, she's also a crap politician doing a poo poo job of running a rich yuppie party and she doesn't have the fangs to swing with the establishment. Of course the Liberals were going to swing in at every chance to crush the Greens and expecting them to play fair or to not ratfuck her before she even had a chance to get her foot in the door rings of naivety that she doesn't have a good answer for besides the obvious "they're against me because I'm black and jewish" challenge. It sucks for black politicians, it sucks for the Greens, it was entirely predictable and Canadians deserve better representation to make the political class more than a worthless husk of ambitious schemers.
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Jun 16, 2021 01:52
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I mean, she did come out the gate trying to ratfuck the Libs too. Remember she demanded they not run anyone in the by-election for Morneau leaving because she wanted to run there.
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Jun 16, 2021 02:46
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I can't say I'm surprised that the Liberals will do anything to win a majority, and anybody who wants to be in federal politics shouldn't be surprised by that either.
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Jun 16, 2021 03:02
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The issue with Black political representation in Canada, is that every single party I've seen acts like the US GOP. They don't give a gently caress, they want to check off a box. The consequence of that is it you're not driven by distilled avarice, you're going to be driven out, because they won't defend you when racists attack you, and they won't listen to you when you say something they don't want to hear; if you are, you'll put up with it and you can have a fairly decent career at the cost of your morals.
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Jun 16, 2021 03:57
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The Liberals really didn't poach Atwin, Atwin decided to quit on the Greens because Annamie Paul's spokesman said she would work to defeat her, the Liberals said yes because they always say yes to a free seat. No one, at any point was in any danger of actually caring about the Palestinians.
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Jun 16, 2021 03:57
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It's like I didn't notice I won $2 on a scratch and win. I wonder if I'm going to get to vote for Dimitri Lascaris again out of this. When I joined the NDP a couple years back I spent the year receiving solicitations for donations and absolutely nothing related to internal party happenings, plans, newsletters, etc. I'm only now technically a Green to have been able to vote for a socialist leader, but I am much more impressed with their party structure. I've been getting updates about regional representatives, virtual meetings and other attempts to build a party that aren't just "$200 please and we'll take it from here". A guy vying to be the candidate for my riding actually gave me a call the other day to chat about a couple policy stances that were most important to him and to ask what was important to me.
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Jun 16, 2021 03:59
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Mumilaaq made a fiery farewell speech that is worth watching and sharing. https://youtu.be/7mqJGG7yUGw
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Jun 16, 2021 04:28
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Amazing. They need to do another one where they go around promoting a new mandatory educational "exchange program" for suburban primary schoolers to learn about indigenous culture. "Well yes, it's sort of a crash course, but don't worry, the survival rate is at least 70%!" 
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Jun 16, 2021 05:22
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So I try to avoid any knowledge of Sun paper personalities. An openly gay ultra-conservative 'journalist' making a switch to notoriously conservative show business, what a world. Is there a queer equivalent of Uncle Tom?
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Jun 16, 2021 13:38
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I don't mean to be an rear end in a top hat (well I kinda do) but why the gently caress is everyone taking SAL's comment about going into acting at face value? It's obviously a throwaway line.
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Jun 16, 2021 15:07
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Another Bill posted:I don't mean to be an rear end in a top hat (well I kinda do) but why the gently caress is everyone taking SAL's comment about going into acting at face value? It's obviously a throwaway line. Are they taking her at face value or are they mocking someone who definitely deserves it. It's the latter. There's really no downside. Either she's blowing hot smoke about being an actor, or she's legitimately trying to become one, and both are worthy of derision.
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Jun 16, 2021 15:21
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DariusLikewise posted:Why does the Green Party even exist? As a dumping ground for nominally left-wing political dabblers who are either too into woo-woo nonsense or too unable to be a team player to hack it in a real party.
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Jun 16, 2021 15:27
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Normy posted:Mumilaaq made a fiery farewell speech that is worth watching and sharing. 
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Jun 16, 2021 15:29
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Normy posted:Mumilaaq made a fiery farewell speech that is worth watching and sharing. To anyone who hasn't viewed it yet, don't sit on this video.
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Jun 16, 2021 15:38
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Normy posted:Mumilaaq made a fiery farewell speech that is worth watching and sharing. Yeah this is good and I recommend posters in this thread watch it.
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Jun 16, 2021 15:55
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DariusLikewise posted:Why does the Green Party even exist? I've heard a perspective that the Greens are useful because they are so unlikely to ever have any power that they can take truly controversial stances and say things the other parties would be afraid to say. Essentially they exist to have nothing to lose. Don't know if that's actually actually borne out in their behavior tho.
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Jun 16, 2021 16:34
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Muscle Tracer posted:I've heard a perspective that the Greens are useful because they are so unlikely to ever have any power that they can take truly controversial stances and say things the other parties would be afraid to say. Essentially they exist to have nothing to lose. no. no it is not. their platforms are a grab bag of random policies that range from stuff the fed NDP would do to woo.
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Jun 16, 2021 17:03
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Wasn’t there a big to-do a few years ago when someone noticed the Greens had stuff about homeopathy or something on their party platform website?
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Jun 16, 2021 17:30
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Muscle Tracer posted:I've heard a perspective that the Greens are useful because they are so unlikely to ever have any power that they can take truly controversial stances and say things the other parties would be afraid to say. Essentially they exist to have nothing to lose. In theory the federal and a few provincial NDPs could do this too. They don't, but they could.
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Jun 16, 2021 17:39
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If you elect Greens they'll establish colleges of homeopathy, naturopathy and chiropractic, allow homeopathic 'medicine' to be sold in pharmacies, and permit private insurance to cover all of the above. (I'll give Liberals some credit for dropping public coverage of chiro in Ontario).
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Jun 16, 2021 17:45
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I remember when that happened. The place I worked for had a couple chiropractors as clients and goddamn were they salty about it.
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Jun 16, 2021 17:54
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Entropic posted:Wasn’t there a big to-do a few years ago when someone noticed the Greens had stuff about homeopathy or something on their party platform website? Yeah and I thought Elizabeth May was concerned that Wifi was scrambling her brain.
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Jun 16, 2021 17:58
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I don't know much about the Federal Greens, admittedly, though have heard about their love of holistic remedies. The local MB green party have been pretty accurately described as Conservatives on Bikes. A lot of support for environmental protection, but also a lot of poo poo like flat tax rates that favour the rich.
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Jun 16, 2021 18:10
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For a while the Green policy document included a weird MRA segment about restoring parental rights to divorced men who aren't allowed to see their kids, because the Greens are a small enough party that any persistent weirdo can get their pet issue into its policy documents.
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Jun 16, 2021 18:21
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Normy posted:Mumilaaq made a fiery farewell speech that is worth watching and sharing. Canadian press ran with the headline Canada excoriated as racist failure during farewell speeches by departing MPs lumping Qaqqaq's speech in with a discussion of the speech of a Bloc Quebec MP that went on about how Canada "stole" the 1995 referendum on Quebec independence and stole its symbols — the maple leaf and the beaver — from Quebec. Of course we've previously discussed how discrimination against French Canadians is worse actually than any other group in Canada. Qaqqaq calling out posting cringe. https://twitter.com/MumilaaqQaqqaq/status/1405157122623655937?s=20
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Jun 16, 2021 18:25
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Oh that's what she meant. She hadn't linked to the original article so I had no idea who talked out of turn
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Jun 16, 2021 18:33
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It's rich how Annamie Paul says she's never asked for special treatment. Nevermind wanting to run unopposed in Morneau's riding so she could have a seat. Now she's back on the "Liberals are bad because they want to win at all costs." and she's calling out Trudeau for being no feminist. It's amazing how she pivots within a few sentences. This was supposed to be about her surviving a potential no confidence vote so it's funny that she's talking about how Trudeau won't be the one to push her out of politics when she's being threatened within her own party. He won't need to do anything if she keeps ostracizing her caucus.
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Jun 16, 2021 21:43
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She’s right about Trudeau though
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Jun 16, 2021 21:53
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Noblesse Obliged posted:She’s right about Trudeau though Hey! He supports the Israeli Defense Force, they're the only feminist army in the middle east!
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Jun 16, 2021 21:56
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She's loving terrible at answering these questions holy poo poo. She keeps interrupting the reporters and its galling when she starts talking over a reporter asking her about a leaked document that presented Paul as an autocrat who refuses to accept any view other than her own. Again I say, there's clearly racism at play, but Paul is also really loving bad at her job. I dont know what world she lives in. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jun 16, 2021 |
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Jun 16, 2021 21:58
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Its a good thing the greens elected their current leader instead of the eco-socialist she narrowly edged out.
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Jun 17, 2021 00:58
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PT6A posted:There's no other kind, really. It takes so much work to obtain and maintain an organic certification that the chances of an independent farmer doing it, even if they don't use pesticides and such, is basically nil. So there is definitely a major over-corporatisation of organic agriculture, and organic agriculture itself is a giant can of worms (a sign of healthy compost!) But your statement that no independent farmers get organic certifications is bullshit, as a quick perusal of any farmers market in Vancouver can easily confirm.
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Jun 17, 2021 01:26
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So there is definitely a major over-corporatisation of organic agriculture, and organic agriculture itself is a giant can of worms (a sign of healthy compost!) Exactly and a quick Google for Ontario info got me this https://www.organiccouncil.ca/whats-the-cost-of-certification/ which in the 'Scenarios' section lays out some costs for small producers which are by no means crippling.
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Jun 17, 2021 01:38
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I think this may be of interest to the thread https://twitter.com/JeremyAppel1025/status/1405307529781866497?s=1 Key points: * The remaining MPs' district associations want to deaffiliate over her dipshit staffer calling them anti-Semitic * Annamie Paul dared them to do it, saying that they might actually gain something from losing them - you know, the actual MPs in parliament. The things normal political parties try to get If I'm the MP in Fredericton, who just saw the party piss away a poo poo ton of money running in the safest of safe Liberal seats, and am now being harassed by some Hasbara guy for not giving pro Israel statements...
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Jun 17, 2021 01:42
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Paul is gonna be gone before the end of July. She just refuses to say a bad word about her staffer. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jun 17, 2021 |
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Jun 17, 2021 02:16
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Hi, wanna get mad at the VPD handcuffing a 12 year old First Nations girl trying to open a bank account? Now you can, with video! https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1909860419766/ loving BMO. I’ve worked retail and banking for 12 years now and status cards are completely fine. And you don’t call the god drat cops, you work internally if you have a suspicion. I hope they get reamed again now that the footage has been released. ChickenDoodle fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jun 17, 2021 |
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Jun 17, 2021 02:21
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Isentropy posted:I think this may be of interest to the thread Already gone. I hope someone downloaded the audio because the Greens are imploding.
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Jun 17, 2021 02:53
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