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Wow Fume knight is hard. I've spent more time on it than any other boss so far and don't even feel close to beating it. Best I did was 1/3 health left. It's like Capra Demon tough.
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I know other people like to claim he's the bestest boss of all time but I'm very much of the opinion he pushes the needle past the "just right" level of challenge and inches towards the "obnoxiously bullshit" range. Though really who could have guessed that a boss with an explicit "gently caress you for trying to heal" attack would end up being the statistically hardest boss in the game?? And I've said it before but the "just gonna no-sell half your attacks with an instant back-hop on demand" thing is downright infuriating.
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May 4, 2021 04:15
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As long as there are people who have trouble with the Fume Knight I will keep quoting myself from 2015.NGDBSS posted:To clarify/expand on what Mr Dog said previously, it's generally easier to not have to switch modes against the Fume Knight by equipping Velstadt's Helm as the host. If you do so he instead just goes straight to phase 2, with the following four attacks:
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May 4, 2021 04:58
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And be ready to roll 3 times when he starts to swing, it's easier once you figure out the timing on those multihit combo swings and don't get caught out just dodging one or two.
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May 4, 2021 06:03
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I'm on my first ds2 run and i think (hope?) I'm close to the end at this point since I've lit all the primal fires, is this like ds1 dlc wise where it's all hidden and you have to jump through some ridiculous hoops to get to it before you defeat the main final boss? Also, normally I hate getting invaded because it's always someone who's played like a gazillion hours of the game and knows how to exploit things to stunlock you to death or stab you in the back from ten feet in front of your face, but I joined the bell tower covenant and enjoyed getting summoned to troll any intruder who arrives in that area. I came across someone whose name was the n word with 9's in place of the g's and I took particular pleasure in caving his skull in.
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May 4, 2021 07:27
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you don't have to worry about doing anything before beating the final boss because you can just continue playing afterwards without starting NG+ and no it's not hidden like that, there's just three keys in three somewhat out of the way places in the game that open one DLC area per. in the original game you just got the keys the instant you downloaded the DLC, even.
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May 4, 2021 07:30
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I'll always remember my time in the soft-ban server where I invaded Belfry Luna and got a squad of three identical Senator Armstrongs all using the Vanquisher's Seal, that an A+ gimmick
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May 4, 2021 07:38
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NGDBSS posted:As long as there are people who have trouble with the Fume Knight I will keep quoting myself from 2015. My experience beating Fume Knight with any build: STR build? Estoc. DEX build? Rapier. Anything else? Estoc or Rapier.
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May 4, 2021 11:41
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raditts posted:I came across someone whose name was the n word with 9's in place of the g's and I took particular pleasure in caving his skull in.
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May 4, 2021 13:20
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I forgot that (a) you have to finish all three Dark Chasms of Old to face Darklurker and (b) there's a loading screen when you drop into the fight. I wasted my only two brightbugs on top of some other buffs. I did beat it after a few tries.
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May 4, 2021 15:07
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Fume knight was surprisingly easy to beat with fists, probably because by the time I got to him I'd been doing nothing but punching and rolling the whole game so I'd gotten pretty good at it. Also punches are pretty quick, you just have to be a lot closer
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May 4, 2021 15:12
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raditts posted:I'm on my first ds2 run and i think (hope?) I'm close to the end at this point since I've lit all the primal fires, is this like ds1 dlc wise where it's all hidden and you have to jump through some ridiculous hoops to get to it before you defeat the main final boss? You should have seen at least two of the three DLC entrances so far based on having lit the primal bonfires. Each entrance needs a key item - well, technically you can go into the DLC area without, but there will be a locked door immediately. One of these keys is basically impossible to miss on the main game path, the other two are a bit out of the way. As was said, this game doesn't force you into an end-state after the final boss like Dark Souls 1 does. So you can do the DLC before or after as you like.
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May 4, 2021 15:54
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Also lighting all the primal fires isn't exactly being close to the endgame, it's more like having rung both Bells of Awakening in DS1.
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Gully Foyle posted:You should have seen at least two of the three DLC entrances so far based on having lit the primal bonfires. Each entrance needs a key item - well, technically you can go into the DLC area without, but there will be a locked door immediately. One of these keys is basically impossible to miss on the main game path, the other two are a bit out of the way. Ah, are they the snakey fountain teleport things after a couple of the bosses that take you to a room with a locked door and a bunch of pedestals with messages on them? Djeser posted:Also lighting all the primal fires isn't exactly being close to the endgame, it's more like having rung both Bells of Awakening in DS1. well poo poo, I'm like level 100 now and I haven't even done any grinding (aside from combing every area to find the path to the iron keep fire, because "maybe one of the paths I went on can transform into another path" was the last thing on my mind) raditts fucked around with this message at 21:51 on May 4, 2021 |
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May 4, 2021 21:49
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Levels are cheap in DS2, you can easily be SL150 by endgame unlike the other games
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NGDBSS posted:As long as there are people who have trouble with the Fume Knight I will keep quoting myself from 2015. Thank you, this plus a lot of practice got me there eventually. I think the big difference from other bosses is that the dodge timings are particularly wacky, and you have to dodge in the right direction.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Fume knight was surprisingly easy to beat with fists, probably because by the time I got to him I'd been doing nothing but punching and rolling the whole game so I'd gotten pretty good at it. Also punches are pretty quick, you just have to be a lot closer Bone Fist(s) or Caestuses? My return to the fight proved I had a better sense of how to approach it compared to my first time, but trying to land bone fist hits was a pain in the rear end and I still ultimately had to summon for him. Though I think that was also straight-up the last boss I bothered to do before deciding I didn't actually feel like 100%ing my punch run. On the other hand (fist), I remember watching Smight just barrel through the fight with dual caestuses. (Helped by Raime deciding to keep his sword broken for the entire fight so no second phase.) pointsofdata posted:and you have to dodge in the right direction. I've fallen into the trap, and I've seen other people fall into it as well; it's super easy to get lazy and go "well I pushed the dodge button that means I'm safe, right?" yeah no lots of bosses and enemies will hand you your rear end for doing that. Really phase 1 of Fume Knight is all about kicking you in the dick for thinking dodging begins and ends with pushing the button.
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While we're talking about fume knight: for reasons that i can't entirely articulate, I've always really appreciated how he's simply named "Fume Knight." like, they could've easily given him something like "Raime, Traitor to the Kingdom" or whatever, much like velstadt is titled, but that would somehow feel much less cool to me. maybe it's just because it reminds me of demon's souls, with its boss names like "tower knight" but i do like that you have to actually put it together yourself who exactly this guy is even if it's as simple as reading a few of his item descriptions.
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May 5, 2021 07:50
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It's because he abandoned his previous identity to get really weird with the manus lady It's kind of a cool inversion on the usual epic From superboss, the first time you fight him you might not even think he's going to be the big guy of the DLC going by the name and surroundings, he sounds like a warmup act for someone bigger and meaner afterwards
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Also unlike the other DLC, he’s almost certain to be the first boss you fight, being posed as the Aava/Elana to the Real Boss.
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Having played this game through about 30 times, I have no idea who anyone is. I just know that there's lava in the wrong place. Bearer Seek Seek Lest
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goblin week posted:Also unlike the other DLC, he’s almost certain to be the first boss you fight, being posed as the Aava/Elana to the Real Boss. I mean unless you're including Blue Smelter he's guaranteed to be the first boss you fight because Alonne's memory doesn't activate until you beat him. 
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Oh I forgot that. My DS2 nerd cred 😩
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Ether Frenzy posted:Having played this game through about 30 times, I have no idea who anyone is. neither does your character they're hollowed as gently caress by now
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raditts posted:well poo poo, I'm like level 100 now and I haven't even done any grinding (aside from combing every area to find the path to the iron keep fire, because "maybe one of the paths I went on can transform into another path" was the last thing on my mind) I'd say it's more like beating Anor Londo but yeah quite a bit to go.
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I love the online interactions in this game. I was farming the Drakekeeper's Shield in Dragon Shrine as NG+ preparation, when I suddenly got invaded! I wasn't even human. The guy sees me fight the first Drakekeeper, waits patiently, then gestures to the second, and so on. He opens all the doors for me and watches me fight the dudes! It was extremely not what I needed (only the first Keeper drops the shield), but so cute lol Then we had an honorable duel before the Ancient Dragon and I died, very not mad tho. After that (still no shield), I saw a Dragon Remnant on the floor and summoned the unfortunately named Killed another Drakekeeper, and lo and behond, Mr. Knight's sign is back. Summon him again. Creamed him again (this time, I kept the Mimic hat on). We had another duel, I gave him a chance using just a Dagger (+10, but still way weaker than my powerstance Fume Sword/Possessed Armor Sword setup), and he won! And finally, I summoned him again, used my normal equipment, and killed him a fourth time. To make up for all his lost scales, I summoned him a fifth time, and just kept my back to him, gesturing peacefully. He made the "nope" gesture and Crystal'd out. I summoned him a sixth time, spammed "I'm sorry" and indicated I'd be ready for a duel, but he just noped out again. I'm sorry dude next time try switching up your setup!!! Your Murakumo was too slow!!!!
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Odd place for the sign. Normally you would place those in more active pvp zones than Dragon Shrine. Maybe he was waiting for a friend for and some rude-lord kept summoning him. But really, you summoning some poor chap for six times is just feels like flexing on folks. In my coop/invasion experience i had some "rule of three" in place. No matter how funny you think gimmick is, 3 times in a row of trying to help/invade the same person is more than enough iteration. OutofSight fucked around with this message at 15:53 on May 6, 2021 |
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After watching a few lore videos I feel like this is a good summary of DS2's major plot points https://twitter.com/JimStorrie/status/1403976939631644674 Dark Souls II - wives amirite folks
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in artorias of the abyss we punched manus so hard he broke into like four different wives
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:After watching a few lore videos I feel like this is a good summary of DS2's major plot points  I mean, yeah that's pretty much it. also: "Poor King Schmendrick. What a fuckin' simp!"
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vendrick deliberately put like six bosses between his wife and him, i think he's volcel
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Vendick is an extremely divorced guy, Fume Knight is the horny simp
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Dark Souls II Vtuber simp edition.
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saw this, thought of the thread title
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hard counter posted:saw this, thought of the thread title amazing And yeah not just Vendrick, but the DLC kings also all met their downfall because of their wives IIRC. Except the Ivory King I think? That queen was the Good One I feel like the writers were working through some personal issues
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:amazing The motivation of all the female bosses in DS2 can be summarized as "bitches be crazy." Granted, that's also the motivation for about 70% of the identifiably male bosses in all the games.
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I think Elana just wanted revenge on the Archdrake Sect, and decided to do it through a zombie army. Probably didn't appreciate you breaking into her city and killing all her dudes either. Nadalia... I got nothing.
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All the lady-shaped bits of Manus embody one of the aspects that's supposed to be fundamental to Humanity and/or Dark. Nashandra is "desire", which is why she went for the most powerful king and why Vendrick's stuff is all named '...of Want'. Elsana is "wrath", so her whole thing is vengeance, which fits in with Sinh being awoken by being speared and destroying the city. Nadalia is "solitude", which is why she was drawn to Brume Tower, as the king who had lived there had already died, and hence why Raime wound up there: it's a place for lonely people. Alsanna is "fear" which suits her status as the guardian keeping Chaos at bay, and being an embodiment of fear also kinda fits with being so in awe of the Ivory King's bravery that she gets a heel face turn.
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It's a good thing the player doesn't have any mysterious woman of uncertain origins guiding them towards a purpose they don't fully understand. You might start thinking they have their own hidden Manus agenda
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yeah they just have a fake dragon that's shaped like a lady with feathers
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