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Ratios and Tendency posted:So the other obvious reason for the US to hide their knowledge of ufos is because you recognize the enormous potential advantage to be gained by being the first country to reverse engineer a craft. Announcing them officially gives an immediate green light to every other country that there's this huge new research path to be developed either by investing in detection or, worse, programs to shoot objects down. this is one of many reasons, it's never gonna happen lol
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Jun 17, 2021 07:50
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they will do the bare minimum to reduce the stigma that comes with reporting ufos among service members at most
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Jun 17, 2021 07:54
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Large numbers of persistent rumors imply that the military has been reverse engineering UFOs, some with recovered materials and others given technology. Every time I read about the NGAD I can't help but think "the sport model?" Perhaps a random clue to "why now?"quote:"Superamus Perstamus Letamus" Did USAF's secret NGAD come out on purpose?  I WANT TO BELIEVE
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Jun 17, 2021 08:01
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Information doesn't go back through the keyhole. So we will eventually, incrementally, learn there is no hope of knowing anything more.
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Jun 17, 2021 08:03
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lol if they're like hey btw our next gen fighter has an anti gravity propulsion system hehe
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Jun 17, 2021 08:20
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Google Butt posted:lol if they're like hey btw our next gen fighter has an anti gravity propulsion system hehe Ok, so grand unifying theory:  So the US has been tinkering on high performance poo poo based on reverse engineered craft for a while. It's slow going with black projects sometimes, especially crossfunctional but compartmentalized stuff. I think WW2-ish seems like a good spot to kick off that part of the story as I think that would be where its most likely you'd get a shootdown event first. Its 70 years later! If that is true, I would expect China to have done so as well by now. Why not, right? They have perfectly qualified engineers to do anything we could do given the same help or materials and some time and would probably have also reverse engineered something interesting. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30499/the-truth-is-the-military-has-been-researching-anti-gravity-for-nearly-70-years The airforce has been sitting on multiple generations of planes based on weird gravity techniques because - why not? Noone else is doing anything with the info and the back story is uncomfortable. More time passes and things sort of even out and the status quo persists. Black projects stay black projects and life moves on - until PRC superdrones start flying around all over the place harassing the Navy. They can't deal with it, the air force won't do jack poo poo about it, so now there is the whole TTSA boondoggle to get attention out. It's not a bad story to "why now?" Deprecate the F22, come clean, and now the surprise replacement NGAD becomes truly next gen.
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Jun 17, 2021 08:40
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quote:There have been hints of those secret technologies for years offered by insiders of some of America's most high-level aerospace research and development outfits. For instance, Ben Rich, the second director of Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works, told Popular Science in 1994 the following: brett tingley knows my number edit: worth mentioning people that were (are/were/idk?) involved with TTSA should know what ben rich is hinting at, if it hasn't come out in the intervening 30 years. Delta-Wye has issued a correction as of 09:11 on Jun 17, 2021 |
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Jun 17, 2021 09:08
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the f35 was a front
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Jun 17, 2021 09:10
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UAPiss
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Jun 17, 2021 09:10
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it's like schrödinger's competent government. open the report and find out if they control the secrets of the universal fabric, or if they're just grifting
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Jun 17, 2021 09:11
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the orb ufos are just a 69th dimensional being trying to goatse the earth but all we can perceive is a weird shiny distortion, and occasionally a cloud ring
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Jun 17, 2021 09:12
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Google Butt posted:the f35 was a front F35 is how you get your NATO allies to pay their bills, it's ultimately for expensive export. the best deals people, just the best.
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Jun 17, 2021 09:14
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Rah! posted:the orb ufos are just a 69th dimensional being trying to goatse the earth but all we can perceive is a weird shiny distortion, and occasionally a cloud ring i don't remember this su walker painting but im pretty sure it would be adorable
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Jun 17, 2021 09:15
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the f35 is a hologram
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Jun 17, 2021 09:15
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Rah! posted:the f35 is a hologram f35s aren't real, those are just birds
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Jun 17, 2021 09:16
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they are a hologram projected onto birds (actually real and from space) in order to turn them into perfect stealth killers NATO has been working with them for decades everything is going according to plan
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Jun 17, 2021 09:21
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Rah! posted:the f35 is a hologram A hologram the kills people...hell yeah star trek is real
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Jun 17, 2021 09:21
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Zisky posted:A hologram the kills people...hell yeah star trek is real if u die in the matrix u die in real life
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Jun 17, 2021 09:22
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brane/string theory says we're all holograms, sort of, i think
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Jun 17, 2021 09:26
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Ratios and Tendency posted:So the other obvious reason for the US to hide their knowledge of ufos is because you recognize the enormous potential advantage to be gained by being the first country to reverse engineer a craft. Announcing them officially gives an immediate green light to every other country that there's this huge new research path to be developed either by investing in detection or, worse, programs to shoot objects down. like cavemen banging on a steam engine, trying to keep the other tribe from seeing it even tho it’s incomprehensible
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Jun 17, 2021 09:49
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Rah! posted:the f35 is a bird
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Jun 17, 2021 09:49
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PawParole posted:the serial killer? Yeah, it's in Chaos by O'Neil, cspam recommended. I'd get an excerpt but I've lended my copy to someone. Iirc it was during the one phonecall O'Neil managed to get before Manson died.
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Jun 17, 2021 10:37
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Oh man even the Mormons are looking for them https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/new-era/2017/09/look-out-for-ufos?lang=eng
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Jun 17, 2021 10:45
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They're actually not real. Sorry guys, my bad.
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Jun 17, 2021 11:53
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:1. The US is making it all up for more money (easier ways to do it, makes us look like assholes, etc) its pretty clearly 2 and 3 imo the only defence people have against it being manmade is going "oh well this crank/spook said it went 50,000 mph and broke the laws of physics, sure a drone can do that???" but thats easily covered by 3 and i'd also like to add a 6: blink 182 guy is full of poo poo the ufoailures are trying to get people to explain the 1500 nuremburg sightings if they want to say its a drone since they've embraced everything as true and have a weird unified theory about ancient aliens and astral projection lol you try to say a thing in the sky that doesnt look like a plane and outmaneouvers a plan is probably a drone and they tell you that doesnt explain a 1813 fisherman seeing a triangle in the sky after 6 months of only eating rum and sodomy
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Jun 17, 2021 12:05
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how do you eat sodomy
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Jun 17, 2021 12:14
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Communist Thoughts posted:its pretty clearly 2 and 3 imo You're just straight up saying data and eyewitnesses don't count if they don't fit your preconceptions.
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Jun 17, 2021 13:19
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Delta-Wye posted:Large numbers of persistent rumors imply that the military has been reverse engineering UFOs, some with recovered materials and others given technology. Every time I read about the NGAD I can't help but think "the sport model?" Perhaps a random clue to "why now?" The NGAD p. clearly has traditional jet engines tho:  https://theaviationist.com/2021/04/12/new-concept-art-of-the-next-generation-air-dominance-ngad-featured-in-air-force-report/ EDIT: the delta shape could account for some black triangle sightings
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Jun 17, 2021 13:25
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I’m sure it’s a total coincidence that trump started the Space Force
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Jun 17, 2021 13:28
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Communist Thoughts posted:its pretty clearly 2 and 3 imo I'm with you to a degree but then I look at stuff like France's COMETA report from 99 coming to the same conclusions (it's aliens) without the MIC incentives and I get curious again.
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Jun 17, 2021 13:31
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Ratios and Tendency posted:You're just straight up saying data and eyewitnesses don't count if they don't fit your preconceptions. data and eyewitnesses is doing a lot of heavy lifting to describe 500 year old woodcuts the recent stuff is all from the US government who is not a reliable source on the question of "is the US using secret/illegal drones?". well the US government and blink182
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Jun 17, 2021 13:31
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what is an illegal drone from a military perspective?
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Jun 17, 2021 13:35
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Love 2 spend hundreds of billions of dollars on fighter programs that last ten years then redoing it and sending them to the boneyard never having seen combat that an f-16 or reaper couldn't have done
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Jun 17, 2021 13:38
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Hodgepodge posted:what is an illegal drone from a military perspective? drones that arent supposed to be operating in domestic airspace or foreign i guess but the US doesnt really care about that one
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Jun 17, 2021 13:39
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Communist Thoughts posted:drones that arent supposed to be operating in domestic airspace This still relies on the US having perfected this technology over 20 years ago and globally testing it on unsuspecting allies for them to report (France, Canada, UK, etc, who have all seen similarly vehicles/capabilities) Not impossible, sure, but certainly a violation of dozens of alliances/treaties/charters and what-have-you Or alternatively, all those pilots/nations having similarly hosed up eyes and sensors.
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Jun 17, 2021 13:47
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even if its nothing/human error, the fact that people have seen odd lights in the water and the air for a long, long rear end-time kind of hints we're going to be dealing with this chronically as a species and its something we may need to figure out a bit better than we're doing now. right... hmm...
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Jun 17, 2021 13:48
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Pretty interesting the amount of people who refuse to challenge their assumptions of what something can be.
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Jun 17, 2021 13:55
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Lampsacus posted:even if its nothing/human error, the fact that people have seen odd lights in the water and the air for a long, long rear end-time kind of hints we're going to be dealing with this chronically as a species and its something we may need to figure out a bit better than we're doing now. right... hmm... Nope it's clearly all birds just listen to all the "smart people".
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Jun 17, 2021 13:56
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Missionary Positron posted:The NGAD p. clearly has traditional jet engines tho: reading the quoted release, it sounds more like the program embraces modern design techniques that have never been used on a production run of that level. I am talking about not using 2D spec drawings and stuff and instead using a master model developed at the beginning which drives the whole production chain and everything is computer-generated based off the master model. Things such as the machine tooling paths to make the part, CMM inspection paths to verify the part, every step of the way it is all digital, start to finish. I believe this is current industry standard for automotive manufacturing but aerospace is starting to shed the last 100 years of learned lessons and practices and embrace the digital age.
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Jun 17, 2021 14:01
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👁️  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNWNj0YoOs8
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