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Mustang posted:I think it's interesting that you rarely ever hear any Americans claiming to be English despite the fact that everywhere you go in the US you're sure to run into plenty of English surnames. Maybe because English immigration is further in the past and "American" as an identity gradually replaced it? Maybe it’s different in America but here in Toronto, a lot of white people remember their English heritage every 2-4 years when they join the worlds most hateable soccer fanbase so that they have an excuse to get day drunk. In fact it’s happening right now. It’s not coming home you losers!
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Starks posted:Maybe it’s different in America but here in Toronto, a lot of white people remember their English heritage every 2-4 years when they join the worlds most hateable soccer fanbase so that they have an excuse to get day drunk. In fact it’s happening right now. it is also true that, unlike canada, while we're cool now most of the early portion of US history was defined by opposition and violent overthrow of the british
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:it is also true that, unlike canada, while we're cool now most of the early portion of US history was defined by opposition and violent overthrow of the british interesting...I should look this up In that spirit I here's a map of English ancestry in NA, with an absolutely terrible colour scheme: Starks fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jun 15, 2021 |
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Starks posted:interesting...I should look this up That really shows how comparatively little non-English migration the South got. South Carolina is approx 40% black people, North Carolina 25%, Virginia 20% etc. So if you remove those %s from the total population an even bigger % of the white people in the Southern states are English ancestry than is shown on the map.
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Starks posted:Maybe it’s different in America but here in Toronto, a lot of white people remember their English heritage every 2-4 years when they join the worlds most hateable soccer fanbase so that they have an excuse to get day drunk. In fact it’s happening right now. This happens in the US but basically for every country except England
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Reveilled posted:I think a major factor for Scots is our cultural cringe. Kilts, bagpipes, tartan and the Scots language are quintessentially Scottish things (we don't need to go into the victorian influence on tartan here) and there's a deep seated inferiority complex in many Scots that is deathly afraid of being reduced to that as a stereotype. For about 300 years the way to get ahead in Britain was to be British, not Scottish, and that meant adopting English manners and English culture. Being refined and cultured was not having those things, and even in recent years there's still that deep seated unease that those things are parochial, backwards. And unfortunately, it is what most foreign people know about us, so I think many Scots assume that Americans' knowledge of Scotland basically starts and ends at Groundskeeper Willie. On the bright side, americans of all creeds and hues mostly agree the english are effete assholes and a shite culture to be colonized by ultrafilter posted:Something like 1 in 6 Americans has German heritage, but you tend not to hear much about that either. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jun 16, 2021 |
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One of the main reasons that Irish and Scottish cultural identity persists in my family is that in both cases emigration happened because of extreme hardship and colonial oppression in the Old World - "we may have been forced to leave Scotland, but we remain Scottish." That sentiment has been passed down through the generations on both sides of my family. Also remember that both the Irish and the Scottish were subjected to genocidal oppression by the English, both with the sword and via starvation.
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trying and failing to imagine an American getting worked up about his "English-American heritage" like the only person who would do this has several disturbing flag emojis on their twitter profile
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I'm sure that even if they don't they have several disturbing flag emojis on their twitter profile.
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Not English, but Not far off.
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It's the fabled Williamite Republican Loyalist Constitutionalist ready to call the police on your Jacobite rear end.
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Badger of Basra posted:trying and failing to imagine an American getting worked up about his "English-American heritage" Maybe not the normal case, but I'm English and moved to America as a kid, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a streak of that through high school. On the spectrum of ethnic problems I acknowledge that it's absolutely jack and poo poo in terms of hardships, but there was enough mockery from teachers/students that it rubbed teenage-me the wrong way enough to want to be contrarian. Especially since that was coming off the heels of indoctrination from British primary school and I had yet to learn much of anything about the atrocities my ancestors committed.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:On the bright side, americans of all creeds and hues mostly agree the english are effete assholes and a shite culture to be colonized by You could say this but then it opens up the question as to why the 'effete' shite culture managed it so well What were all these better cultures doing? Not being 'effete' obviously, we'll take that as given
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I’m the Omani that moved to Palestine
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I'm the Libyan who relocates to Bangladesh (many such cases)
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Koramei posted:Maybe not the normal case, but I'm English and moved to America as a kid, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a streak of that through high school. On the spectrum of ethnic problems I acknowledge that it's absolutely jack and poo poo in terms of hardships, but there was enough mockery from teachers/students that it rubbed teenage-me the wrong way enough to want to be contrarian. Yeah that's not what people are referring to. You're definitely English-American and it would be seen as totally normal for you to identify as such. Also don't worry, everyone's ancestors committed atrocities if you go back far enough.
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Starks posted:Maybe it’s different in America but here in Toronto, a lot of white people remember their English heritage every 2-4 years when they join the worlds most hateable soccer fanbase so that they have an excuse to get day drunk. In fact it’s happening right now. I always think it's funny when people say that the mantra of "it's coming home" is an example of English arrogance when the song is about how much England lose all the time but it's nice to hope and dream all the same. In any case, it's coming home.
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It's understandable, but pretty funny that no one has China.
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Big LOL at leaving Taiwan blank to not offend China but then listing Hong Kong as a country for Chinese people to migrate to.
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Mediterranean, yes. Baltic, no. Pretty half-assed if you ask me.
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Well the benefit is clear But how much water would this displace? I'm guessing not an insignificant amount which might be not so great for everyone who's still not landlocked
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If it can be done in videogames it can be done in the real world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jampkjVg2LM
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mobby_6kl posted:But how much water would this displace? I'm guessing not an insignificant amount which might be not so great for everyone who's still not landlocked Like a hundred and thirty million cubic kilometres. That’s fifty Greenland ice sheets, or a tenth of the total volume of the ocean. The remaining sea would rise by about four hundred metres.
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Well obviously we're pumping the water into cisterns! How many cisterns could that take?
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The construction of artificial reservoirs has actually noticeably impacted sea level. The magnitude of the effect was three centrimetres in 2008.
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Platystemon posted:Like a hundred and thirty million cubic kilometres.
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Platystemon posted:Like a hundred and thirty million cubic kilometres. Finally Switzerland will get access to the sea (e.g. Zurich: elevation 408m AMSL). The sacrifice of Basel will be remembered.
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Platystemon posted:Like a hundred and thirty million cubic kilometres. Worth it
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Platystemon posted:Like a hundred and thirty million cubic kilometres. I'm also pretty sure completely eliminating the North Atlantic, and with it the North Atlantic current system, shatters a large portion of the world's climate and throws us all into a new Younger Dryas.
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So just criss-cross it with canals, I'm sure that's just as good as an ocean
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Quorum posted:I'm also pretty sure completely eliminating the North Atlantic, and with it the North Atlantic current system, shatters a large portion of the world's climate and throws us all into a new Younger Dryas. Maybe, but have you considered what sick road trips it would allow?
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Samuel Clemens posted:Maybe, but have you considered what sick road trips it would allow? Road trips in a frozen wasteland, using some kind of road built across ice, perhaps in a large vehicle designed for this purpose and driven by specialized operators, that does sound intriguing
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pretty sure this is part of the origin story in The Fifth Season
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Quorum posted:I'm also pretty sure completely eliminating the North Atlantic, and with it the North Atlantic current system, shatters a large portion of the world's climate and throws us all into a new Younger Dryas. Good, because I'm not a fan of Older Wet rear end
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Bill Gates is the biggest owner of farmland. Nothing to be worried about I am sure.
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guess what this is
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Six degrees of Alex Macedon?
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