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sticklefifer posted:Was the steak in a ketchup wrap? Yup. It wasn’t subtle at all about who they were sending up
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El Gallinero Gros posted:One of them sneezed at a steak dinner pretty sure it was alex reynolds but maybe im wrong
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CopywrightMMXI posted:When I was a kid I always liked wrestlers who had a post-match ritual, whether it was Jake Roberts covering someone with his snake, Ted Dibiase stuffing money in his opponents mouth or Brutus Beefcake cutting someone’s hair. Does anyone in wrestling currently do something like this? Nyla Rosa has been draping this shirt over her opponents at the end of matches recently: https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/wrestler-t-shirts/nyla-rose/nyla-rose-survivor.html
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cody rhodes takes a big p00p on his opponents at the end of his matches
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Cavauro posted:cody rhodes takes a big p00p on his opponents at the end of his matches Also during the match itself.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:When I was a kid I always liked wrestlers who had a post-match ritual, whether it was Jake Roberts covering someone with his snake, Ted Dibiase stuffing money in his opponents mouth or Brutus Beefcake cutting someone’s hair. Does anyone in wrestling currently do something like this? In the before Covid times, Hiroshi Tanahashi used to receive towels from fans which he would wipe himself down with before returning them. Also he used to air guitar after big matches IGgy IGsen posted:When Minoru Suzuki wins it's celebratory murder Remember how happy MiSu was when he realised Taichi's small Mexican friend was just as much of a violent arsehole as the rest of Suzuki-gun
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CopywrightMMXI posted:When I was a kid I always liked wrestlers who had a post-match ritual, whether it was Jake Roberts covering someone with his snake, Ted Dibiase stuffing money in his opponents mouth or Brutus Beefcake cutting someone’s hair. Does anyone in wrestling currently do something like this? Max Caster kisses his opponent's hand after he pins them.
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If pre-match counts, the Young Bucks give a lucky fan at ringside their headband.
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I think I remember seeing Asuka(WWE) openly expressing/lamenting the state of Joshi trending to be more soft at a point when Emi Sakura was on top of Stardom. Was there any heat between them because of those comments?
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I have some early 90s WWF compilation thing on while I work, and Dino Bravo walks out prior to dying his hair. I always wondered why they changed his hair, and seeing him without it, I have to think part of the reason may be because he looked like Don Muraco (to the crowd anyway, or via the lower resolution TVs of the 80s/90s). Also, Dino Bravo wrestles like he's 75 years old. Everything is slow and sluggish, and looks like he's got a hip replacement. Did Bravo have any decent WWF matches, or is there any suggestion he was worth being in the WWF?
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Red posted:I have some early 90s WWF compilation thing on while I work, and Dino Bravo walks out prior to dying his hair. I always wondered why they changed his hair, and seeing him without it, I have to think part of the reason may be because he looked like Don Muraco (to the crowd anyway, or via the lower resolution TVs of the 80s/90s). According to the Quebec wrestling book I own, Bravo was physically cooked by the time WWE signed him. He used to be more athletic, apparently, and Vince largely got him because he was a top guy in Quebec. Steroids and mileage lead him to to be pretty drat immobile. I don't think much footage exists of his athletic prime and he was the shits in WWE.
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Besides ashes, green smoke, and a flashlight, what else has been in the urn over the years?
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Souls.
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They should've put gummi worms in it and had Paul Bearer snack on them during matches.
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Did the urn start serving a different purpose after Sid poo poo his trunks during his match with Taker at Wrestlemania 13?
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TV Zombie posted:I think I remember seeing Asuka(WWE) openly expressing/lamenting the state of Joshi trending to be more soft at a point when Emi Sakura was on top of Stardom. Was there any heat between them because of those comments? kana was pissed because she thought joshi was just a bunch of gravure idols play fighting instead of Real Women Fighting For Their Lives (or something to that effect). not sure if they had heat, but they probably did because no one liked her she had to get shady yakuza money to run her own vanity indie because no one would book or finance her
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Smoking Crow posted:kana was pissed because she thought joshi was just a bunch of gravure idols play fighting instead of Real Women Fighting For Their Lives (or something to that effect). not sure if they had heat, but they probably did because no one liked her It didn't help that she was a really reckless worker back then either, and it's a tad hypocritical given some of the stunts she pulled during matches. She seems like a lovely person now though, so I guess she got over herself at some point.
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Emi also wasn't on top of Stardom or anywhere near Stardom - she only worked the Budokan show, owned Ice Ribbon from 2006-12 and then when she was pushed out of there she formed Gatoh Move in 2012 and that's where she's been ever since. Kana worked IR irregularly before 2009 and then 2012-15 so they may well have had some sort of heat - Kana did fall out with Nanae Takahashi around that same time and Nanae and Emi are bros so perhaps that's also connected. I also think that the whole manifesto thing was as much an attempt to get attention for Kana as it was anything else - for all of the talk about looks mattering too much and stuff like that in the following years she released gravure DVDs herself - might have been a 'if you can't beat them join them' thing, might also be an indication that she didn't care that much about it. Whatever it was it worked - her peak in Japan was around 2013-14; she was one of the most well known Joshi wrestlers by the time she went to the US and that WWE offer wouldn't have come without what got her in that position, and the Kanapro shows were successful for what they were. She also always had places that would work with her: WAVE always booked her right to the end; she was involved pretty seriously in SMASH/WNC/whatever the other Taijiri promotions were, Triple Tails as an act were big until they broke up around the time Io Shirai went to Stardom, she also had pretty regular US dates through Shimmer as well. She apparently had heat with Stardom and I suspect that was mainly Nanae although perhaps Rossy wasn't a fan of the manifesto either and by the time Nanae was gone from Stardom Kana was already WWE bound. She clearly seems to have not been the easiest person to work with but that's the case with a lot of people that are fairly big names.
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Not a wrestling question, but there's no dedicated Roller Derby forum. Are there any good, definitive books on the history of Roller Derby? For the most part, the best info I ever find on it is in random issues of the Wrestling Observer, typically when Dave is reviewing a Derby book or writing an obituary for a skater. His reviews are always very informative and point out all the things that are wrong or missing in the existing books, lamenting that no one has written a real history of the "sport." I'm interested in learning more about it and how it burned out, but honestly don't know where to start.
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Tato posted:Not a wrestling question, but there's no dedicated Roller Derby forum. Are there any good, definitive books on the history of Roller Derby? For the most part, the best info I ever find on it is in random issues of the Wrestling Observer, typically when Dave is reviewing a Derby book or writing an obituary for a skater. His reviews are always very informative and point out all the things that are wrong or missing in the existing books, lamenting that no one has written a real history of the "sport." I'm interested in learning more about it and how it burned out, but honestly don't know where to start. I’ve heard The Demon of the Derby doc is good but never tracked it down. Best thing might be to ask Dave on Twitter when he seems to be answering questions. I don’t really know anything about the various books. Check the 2006 Observer back issues i believe his Ann Cavello obituary is the only issue up from that year but it’s the most thorough thing he’s written.
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Tato posted:Not a wrestling question, but there's no dedicated Roller Derby forum. Are there any good, definitive books on the history of Roller Derby? For the most part, the best info I ever find on it is in random issues of the Wrestling Observer, typically when Dave is reviewing a Derby book or writing an obituary for a skater. His reviews are always very informative and point out all the things that are wrong or missing in the existing books, lamenting that no one has written a real history of the "sport." I'm interested in learning more about it and how it burned out, but honestly don't know where to start. I haven't kept up since I was last involved 10 years ago or so, had no idea it was burning out. Half the people I talk to regularly have a derby name that I still use. Wonder if it's an age thing, and the next "generation" didn't show much interest and everyone is slowly quitting.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I haven't kept up since I was last involved 10 years ago or so, had no idea it was burning out. Half the people I talk to regularly have a derby name that I still use. Wonder if it's an age thing, and the next "generation" didn't show much interest and everyone is slowly quitting. The Roller Derby in question is the 50s-70s Roller Derby and Roller Games, which were worked. It's Dave's other passion other than wrestling.
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MassRafTer posted:The Roller Derby in question is the 50s-70s Roller Derby and Roller Games, which were worked. It's Dave's other passion other than wrestling. Ooh, yeah. Wasn't there an 80s revival that was worked as well?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Ooh, yeah. Wasn't there an 80s revival that was worked as well? There was RollerGames in the early 90s and... ROLLLLLLLLERJAM!!!! in the late 90s.
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Tato posted:Not a wrestling question, but there's no dedicated Roller Derby forum. Are there any good, definitive books on the history of Roller Derby? For the most part, the best info I ever find on it is in random issues of the Wrestling Observer, typically when Dave is reviewing a Derby book or writing an obituary for a skater. His reviews are always very informative and point out all the things that are wrong or missing in the existing books, lamenting that no one has written a real history of the "sport." I'm interested in learning more about it and how it burned out, but honestly don't know where to start.
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i've read in a couple places that the cali Inoki Dojo held TV tapings in like '04-'05. is this true? if so, did they actually air anywhere/are there any cards from the tapings available?
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Low Desert Punk posted:i've read in a couple places that the cali Inoki Dojo held TV tapings in like '04-'05. is this true? if so, did they actually air anywhere/are there any cards from the tapings available? I imagine it would be one of these, although the few cards I looked at didn't mention if they were taped or not. I did see that one of the 2004 shows had Minoru Tanaka vs Bryan Danielson for the Jr Title which would have been an absolute banger
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SG Bamboo posted:I did see that one of the 2004 shows had Minoru Tanaka vs Bryan Danielson for the Jr Title which would have been an absolute banger same card has a little exhibition match between Nakamura and Ken Shamrock that I'm obscenely curious about. Don't think the Toukon shows were taped but I would love to be wrong
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I know there are still wrestling tape trading rings (specifically because the people still into it don't want to convert to digital), which is about the only place I can see footage like that still existing somewhere. Now the tricky part is tracking down a VHS. 
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sticklefifer posted:I know there are still wrestling tape trading rings (specifically because the people still into it don't want to convert to digital), which is about the only place I can see footage like that still existing somewhere. Now the tricky part is tracking down a VHS.
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It's pretty niche now, but it surprisingly still exists. I used to have a guy for it, which is how I got into Toryumon in the early 00s for lack of any other source. I lost contact with him a while back, but at last check it was still an underground thing about 3-4 years ago. I can't guarantee anything but if I can dig my source back up, I'll post about it.
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There are a couple of Inoki Dojo shows floating around. I might be able to get my hands on these two.quote:March 6th 2004 quote:June 26th 2004
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Minoru Tanaka & Heat on the same show. Weird. Bobby Quance is a name I haven't thought of in about 15 years
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forkboy84 posted:Minoru Tanaka & Heat on the same show. Weird. I believe he joined the Navy
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Was Diesel supposed to be a truck driver? A truck enthusiast? An actual truck?
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Yes. I’m pretty sure it was a combination of Nash being from Detroit (motor city) leading them to a car gimmick and trucks being big and powerful and powered by diesel.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:When I was a kid I always liked wrestlers who had a post-match ritual, whether it was Jake Roberts covering someone with his snake, Ted Dibiase stuffing money in his opponents mouth or Brutus Beefcake cutting someone’s hair. Does anyone in wrestling currently do something like this? When Dalton Castle wrestled in Chikara, for a while he wrestled as "Ashley Remington. There was a gimmick along the the lines of him suddenly inheriting a bunch of money or something, so he'd talk about his yachts all the time, dressed like a cruise ship captain, and win or lose, he'd always give his opponents a complimentary fruit basket.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Was Diesel supposed to be a truck driver? A truck enthusiast? An actual truck? Not a direct descendant of Rudolph Diesel?
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