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Is this a new one or is this the one that definitely didn't go suspiciously quiet from frontline politics a while ago?
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TheRat posted:I liked Bob Crow. he was great and we need more people who'll rip on journalists trying to berate them for being good at their jobs. I've got no idea (but many doubts) about whether any Unite candidate would be capable of matching him, but I'd have been delighted with someone just being loudly smug about whatever objectively good things they can accomplish. It's important that everyone hears that they deserve better things in life. Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PA/status/1405914701104660484?s=19 are we compiling these somewhere
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Jun 18, 2021 17:29
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Jun 18, 2021 17:31
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Spangly A posted:he was great and we need more people who'll rip on journalists trying to berate them for being good at their jobs. It would be nice to just have a union leader who was a proper union leader again. Someone who tells the suits and centrists to gently caress off.
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Jun 18, 2021 17:31
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PA/status/1405914701104660484?s=19 byelection when
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Jun 18, 2021 17:32
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Letter from Muslim organisations in Batley & Spen to Starmer: (FOA = Friends of Al Aqsa) https://www.foa.org.uk/20210616-press-release-batley-and-spen-open-letter-to-keir-starmer quote:Press Release: Batley and Spen open letter to Keir Starmer
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Jun 18, 2021 17:33
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PA/status/1405914701104660484?s=19 by-elections for the by-election god can't wait for Labour to poo poo the bed in this one too
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Jun 18, 2021 17:35
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https://twitter.com/gilescoren/status/1405905202843164672?s=20 Giles Coren being owned & pulling out the Megan McCain failchild playbook is funny forkboy84 posted:Last I will post on this for now, but this speech from Maxton on the Private Members Bill he tried to put through is well worth reading: That this House recognises that the widespread poverty of the people cannot be removed within the framework of the capitalist order of society, which is not progressing towards prosperity but heading for collapse, and condemns the present policy of the Government as foolish trifling with a serious situation. Quoting myself because I hadn't realised the page had moved on when I made this edit to my last post but it's a tremendous speech on poverty during the Great Depression. Also this comment from Richard Wallhead, ILP MP for Merthyr, "Let it be remembered that that declaration by Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman, and the fact that it could not be disproved, was the death-knell of Free Trade. It killed Free Trade, and it meant the rise of the Labour party. It meant the rise of the working-class party, and what we have to be careful of now is that that rise of the working-class party does not become so enmeshed in the idea of saving the situation for the capitalist section of society, that they will adopt the worn-out shibboleths of the party that preceded them" has plenty relevance for today's Labour Party. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jun 18, 2021 |
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Jun 18, 2021 17:41
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PA/status/1405914701104660484?s=19 It is sad that the inevitable main take-away within tory-voting circles, from someone named Imran Ahmad Khan getting done for noncing, will be "muslin pedos!!! send them all back *votes Tory*"
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Jun 18, 2021 17:43
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Dominic Cummings is a horrible human being but I would be lying if I said that I was not enjoying his rebirth as a poster.
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Jun 18, 2021 17:50
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https://twitter.com/dmmecritters/status/1405835496752877571
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Jun 18, 2021 18:02
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Honestly I would probably struggle to tell they do look quite a lot alike.
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Jun 18, 2021 18:05
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https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1405925947711295489 this seems questionable
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Jun 18, 2021 18:17
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Guavanaut posted:My big worry with those is that they work less well the colder that it is outside, to the point where (with the current UK National Grid) you're burning more gas than you would with a condensing boiler to get low grade background heat. The insulation and construction will be an issue, but if that is sorted a heat pump should be fine. Mine claims 2.7x coefficient of power at -7°C so generation and transmission would need to be pretty bad for a gas boiler to be more efficient. It has an immersion heater in case it gets too cold for the heat pump, and the hours it's on for get recorded, still at zero despite getting down to -15ish a few times. So a UK winter should be no problem.
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Jun 18, 2021 18:23
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1405925947711295489   lmao I wonder if the forensic prosecutor will have something to say about people who might be prosecuted changing the law to avoid prosecution. knox_harrington posted:Mine claims 2.7x coefficient of power at -7°C so generation and transmission would need to be pretty bad for a gas boiler to be more efficient. It has an immersion heater in case it gets too cold for the heat pump, and the hours it's on for get recorded, still at zero despite getting down to -15ish a few times. So a UK winter should be no problem. Build more nuclear and renewables and use smart metering to give everyone a monthly electricity allowance as a universal basic service if you want everyone off gas as fast as possible imo.
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Jun 18, 2021 18:37
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https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1405943132391448580?s=19 hosed it.
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Jun 18, 2021 18:45
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1405925947711295489 Perfect time to release all the dirty poo poo, most people are distracted by the football. Speaking of which, seems the UK has just asked for an extension for the chilled meat rules until September.
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Jun 18, 2021 18:58
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Spangly A posted:
We are: In parliament. Ah, I see, so all this time kieth has been the policymaking powerhouse who has both sorted antisemitism and has election winning ideas but this has been hidden from the public by a poor director of comms. Now the adults are back in charge we're going to see some H U G E G A I N S
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Jun 18, 2021 19:00
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keep punching joe posted:Dominic Cummings is a horrible human being but I would be lying if I said that I was not enjoying his rebirth as a poster. Rebirth? Return to his roots, you mean. He was one of those LessWrong weirdoes* and I'm wiling to bet he was previously on at least one of RationalWiki, the JREF forums, or one of the New Atheist newsgroups (probably sci.skeptic, who always thought they were the intellectual superiors of the shitposters on talk.origins and alt.atheism). * He's never acknowledged it but all of the blogs definitely proven to be part of his weird Extended Universe - and what's more Poster than a track record of zero-reader blogs screaming into the void - have linked to it, as well as the even weirder bits of that community like Slate Star Codex which were the incubator for the Dark Enlightenment and other calipers-based social science.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:00
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Rebirth? Return to his roots, you mean. He was one of those LessWrong weirdoes* and I'm wiling to bet he was previously on at least one of RationalWiki, the JREF forums, or one of the New Atheist newsgroups (probably sci.skeptic, who always thought they were the intellectual superiors of the shitposters on talk.origins and alt.atheism). I mean in at least one of his blogs he has cited big Yud which had me in stitches because of course he would.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:06
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https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1405911948647088129
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Jun 18, 2021 19:07
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did all his woad wash off in the rain
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Jun 18, 2021 19:07
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Owen Jones is live on Novara on Youtube now and he'll be talking about the resignation.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:11
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Rebirth? Return to his roots, you mean. He was one of those LessWrong weirdoes* and I'm wiling to bet he was previously on at least one of RationalWiki, the JREF forums, or one of the New Atheist newsgroups (probably sci.skeptic, who always thought they were the intellectual superiors of the shitposters on talk.origins and alt.atheism). Hey Twisto, could you do a couple sentences introduction to this "Dark Enlightenment" stuff? I tried glancing at a thread about it a few years ago, but never understood a drat thing. Though maybe that's their whole thing, to be undecipherably wrong and smug about it?
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Jun 18, 2021 19:15
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7 cops to take 1 anti-masker away.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:17
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jaete posted:Hey Twisto, could you do a couple sentences introduction to this "Dark Enlightenment" stuff? I tried glancing at a thread about it a few years ago, but never understood a drat thing. Though maybe that's their whole thing, to be undecipherably wrong and smug about it? spoiler: it's fash
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Jun 18, 2021 19:17
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eventually he’s going to run out of people to “resign”
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Jun 18, 2021 19:22
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happyhippy posted:7 cops to take 1 anti-masker away. watch the video
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Jun 18, 2021 19:22
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NotJustANumber99 posted:watch the video You can see his worm while he's doing the worm.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:25
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jaete posted:Hey Twisto, could you do a couple sentences introduction to this "Dark Enlightenment" stuff? I tried glancing at a thread about it a few years ago, but never understood a drat thing. Though maybe that's their whole thing, to be undecipherably wrong and smug about it? Their solution to combining the two is bringing back the House of Stuart to rule as an absolute monarchy/board of directors, because they're loving idiots. Neoreaction: A Basilisk is a good take on it. e: keep punching joe posted:spoiler: it's fash
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Jun 18, 2021 19:25
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It's been a long time since I looked at it but I think it was sort of a step on the dick dorkins capital A Atheist crowd going hard into the right wing politics poo poo. Basically fetishistic adulation of "science" which is to say telling the girls and religious people they are too stupid to understand, combined with going hog wild on any statistics put in front of them to support lovely politics. Kind of the same poo poo like The Bell Curve etc. I think it was a bit of a brief thing honestly because it was competing with a lot of the same audience as gamergate/jorbo lobsterman/the proto-trump movement/alt right/US libertarians and all that poo poo. I don't know of anything really notable that it produced or anything that was actually unique about it, there has always been a pseudointellectual streak of the right aimed at lovely young white dudes. But the general theme of it was "actually racism is scientifically justified because of <dubious interpretation of specific statistics> and you are all too weak to contemplate it" which obviously nowadays is just summed up by screaming "woke" at things you don't like. I suppose at the time it might have been a bit novel that people were just assuming they were right and the world proved it but everyone was just wilfully ignorant but I think in the ensuring decade that stance has gotten a lot more shrill and desperate and also picked up a lot more institutional support too so it's not really the same any more. Imagine a little fragment of that but existing in the middle of the far off epoch of the early 2010s, which as we all know were a prelapsarian land of milk and honey. Unlike the prolapsarian fallen hellscape of 2021. The other thing I remember being associated with it was "HBD" or "human bio diversity" which is basically a crypto way of saying "racism is real and scientifically accurate" Also, I suppose, a bit ahead of its time by couching garbage ideas in "progressive" language. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 18, 2021 |
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Jun 18, 2021 19:27
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jaete posted:Hey Twisto, could you do a couple sentences introduction to this "Dark Enlightenment" stuff? I tried glancing at a thread about it a few years ago, but never understood a drat thing. Though maybe that's their whole thing, to be undecipherably wrong and smug about it? You could go into an ever-expanding explanation of it but basically: keep punching joe posted:spoiler: it's fash The very, very short version is that the New Atheists all went insane on September 11th 2001 and realised it was actually just one religion they very specifically didn't believe in. I mean it was inevitable this would happen anyway because a lot of them were atheists the same way Ron Paul fans were libertarians - the gently caress YOU DAD strain is always strong in politics, and the inevitable result is always people snapping back to their parents political views but with the language of their former opposition mixed in. Some took the quick route like Dick Dorkins and started using the words Judeo-Christian a lot, but a lot more took a more circuitous route through the fairly loose rationalist community (hence my mentioning JREF and Usenet) and into transhumanism and basically inventing their own robot god to fear, before rediscovering the finest minds of the 19th century and using their giant brains to decide that eugenics was Cool And Good. It's probably best to think of them as part of a spectrum between the Reddit neckbeard/Wiki editor strain of insufferable pseudointellectual and the Koch-funded "Why child labour laws are destroying innovation" thinkpiece writers.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:42
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Whatever tonight's result, hoping that ScotRef 2.0 gets a big boost
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Jun 18, 2021 19:44
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Failed Imagineer posted:Whatever tonight's result, hoping that ScotRef 2.0 gets a big boost The one thing I don't want to happen is a draw because the centrist columns about how it applies to the indy debate will blot out the loving sun.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:46
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Scotland lost the referendum 45 to 55, a ten goal deficit, they'll be lucky to keep it to that tonight.
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Jun 18, 2021 19:49
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The one thing I don't want to happen is a draw because the centrist columns about how it applies to the indy debate will blot out the loving sun. Christ you're right, this is the horrifying (and thus inevitable) outcome - 52:48 in football form
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Jun 18, 2021 19:49
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He's not naked he's clearly wearing his police hat
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Jun 18, 2021 19:50
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what song is playing for scotland in this match?
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Jun 18, 2021 19:57
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I am committed to my hot take that the spark that lit the fire was the question "are video games art?" Like, if you go back to the early 2000s when there were regular moral panics about violence in video games, the response from gamers was always "video games are art! They should be protected as free speech!" People got mad or at least rolled their eyes when people like Roger Ebert claimed the opposite, that no mere game could ever rise to the level of art. And then came the day when a lady took the claim that video games were art seriously and produced a very basic and non-controversial work of feminist art criticism, and the internet exploded. All the pieces were in place, the "dark enlightenment", the tea party (in america), the casual misogyny of internet culture, the scientistic fetish for biotruths. But what men on the internet couldn't handle was that someone tested their claim that video games were art. Suddenly games could not be art, because if they were art, that means they could be subject to artistic criticism, and since gamers defined themselves by games, if games could be criticised, they would be being criticised! Unfair! This also meant any game which looked too much like art needed to be destroyed, and in their iconoclatic fury, this also meant attacking, harrasing and sending death threats to any women who dared to make a video game that looked like art. Now I know this theory is certainly ridiulous, and there's probably a million better supported narratives of this period in history, but goddamn I want textbooks of the future to say "the pivotal question of the early 21st century was whether video games were art" so much because I want people of the future to look back at this ridiculous time with the same level of incredulity we do when we ponder how the question of whether Christ had one nature or two could have caused civil war in the Roman Empire.
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https://twitter.com/almurray/status/1405935500666486794 ^   TAAR'AAAN AAAARRMAAAAAAY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 
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