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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


It is kind of incredible that a Labour leader is trusted less than the Tory PM on the NHS in those polls.

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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Comrade Fakename posted:

It is kind of incredible that a Labour leader is trusted less than the Tory PM on the NHS in those polls.
That he is less trustworthy overall than Boris is incredible.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Well I trust Johnson 100% to lie and steal as much as he can, so in a way he is trustworthy.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Comrade Fakename posted:

It is kind of incredible that a Labour leader is trusted less than the Tory PM on the NHS in those polls.

His supporters explicitly want a return to the days of the Labour leader responsible for PFI

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think yeah it's just that he has a generally weaselly demeanour so if you think he's untrustworthy you're not gonna trust him on anything.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i've yet to hear the man give an answer to a question

like that poo poo worked in the 1990s but most people who vote are online now

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



I feel nervous about this because it feels like promotion, but I know it's a cause a number of people here are interested in so - in a break from the drudgery of news recently - the brewery is going live! Now raising our actual equity investment so we can launch and offer some real, meaningful, employment opportunities to people with convictions, and helping to break the cycle of reoffending. We have a few UKMT members already on board (p.s. PM me if you took part in the Crowdfunder and I'll convert you to some actual equity - no one gets left behind here!)

If you're interested in amazing beer and social good take a look at the pitch on crowdcube and PM me with any questions. We've hit a massive 15k in just a couple of days, but need some more small (£10) investments before we can open the round to the world - we want lots of owners rather than a few big shots!

And it's SEIS eligible...

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/theidsmiths/status/1406166356026875907

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Red Oktober posted:

I feel nervous about this because it feels like promotion, but I know it's a cause a number of people here are interested in so - in a break from the drudgery of news recently - the brewery is going live! Now raising our actual equity investment so we can launch and offer some real, meaningful, employment opportunities to people with convictions, and helping to break the cycle of reoffending. We have a few UKMT members already on board (p.s. PM me if you took part in the Crowdfunder and I'll convert you to some actual equity - no one gets left behind here!)

If you're interested in amazing beer and social good take a look at the pitch on crowdcube and PM me with any questions. We've hit a massive 15k in just a couple of days, but need some more small (£10) investments before we can open the round to the world - we want lots of owners rather than a few big shots!

And it's SEIS eligible...

This is a much better idea than starting an actual brewery. There are a lot of cuckoo brewers out there. The brew studio at my local brewery does a good trade in folk brewing a beer for their wedding or whatever. ( it's what we did, was fun).

My wife is a beer sommelier and I don't think she could take yet another South London brewery cranking out whatever.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

73% think Boris Johnson is intelligent. Lol just tip this whole electorate into the North sea.

TwoShanks
Feb 27, 2007

Robots of the world unite
He says some Latin and make classics references, so everyone knows he must be intelligent.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
difference between intelligence and wisdom etc etc

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Jeeves: My mother thought me intelligent, Sir.
Bertie: Well, you can't go by that! My mother thought me intelligent!

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




I would argue he is intelligent, it's just that intelligence doesn't imply ethical or moral.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Intelligence is universal to our species. It's about what we do with that. Some put their genius to raising families, stretching their anus for impressive photos online, or community organising. Others use it for little more than adding extra custard to their binbag.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Oof, that Survation poll.

"Who would make the best Prime Minister?

Keir Starmer - 18%.
Don't know - 29%.


Loooooooool.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Twenty points ahead of the abyss.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Aramoro posted:

This is a much better idea than starting an actual brewery. There are a lot of cuckoo brewers out there. The brew studio at my local brewery does a good trade in folk brewing a beer for their wedding or whatever. ( it's what we did, was fun).

My wife is a beer sommelier and I don't think she could take yet another South London brewery cranking out whatever.

I 100% think so, there's a lot of breweries out there, but I view this as something like a gym for homebrewers - you don't need to own the kit, you don't need to maintain and clean it, and you don't need a massive amount of space which is in short supply in London (no gardens, sheds, garages etc). Plus you can meet other people and learn from them / help each other out.

The wedding one is a perfect example - I used to brew with a guy and we made a beer for his wedding, which I was best man at. One idea I want to explore is people coming to the brewery for a stag do, make the beer during the do, and then serve it at the wedding.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Azza Bamboo posted:

Intelligence is universal to our species. It's about what we do with that. Some put their genius to raising families, stretching their anus for impressive photos online, or community organising. Others use it for little more than adding extra custard to their binbag.

Someone take the intro to Idiocracy, and PS Keir on the kid less couple, and Boris as the one having 50 kids.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Red Oktober posted:

The wedding one is a perfect example - I used to brew with a guy and we made a beer for his wedding, which I was best man at. One idea I want to explore is people coming to the brewery for a stag do, make the beer during the do, and then serve it at the wedding.

The craft beer kitchen near me does this. You send in your label art on your brew day and then you get to stick them on during the bottling day. My wife really knew what she wanted to make so it was easy but they have really great brewers on hand to help. They also help with the local Unis Brewing course.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Pistol_Pete posted:

Oof, that Survation poll.

"Who would make the best Prime Minister?

Keir Starmer - 18%.
Don't know - 29%.


Loooooooool.

I assume that "loving neither of them" are included as part of the don't know %

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Aramoro posted:

The craft beer kitchen near me does this. You send in your label art on your brew day and then you get to stick them on during the bottling day. My wife really knew what she wanted to make so it was easy but they have really great brewers on hand to help. They also help with the local Unis Brewing course.

That's brilliant - there's definitely space for 'experiences' like that, especially as we come out of lockdown and people are itching to get out and about again.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
second dose of bill gates juice kicking in. sensible centrism. i vote lib dem now.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



Red Oktober posted:

One idea I want to explore is people coming to the brewery for a stag do, make the beer during the do, and then serve it at the wedding.

What variety of hops should I use to get that perfect 'handcuffed to a lamppost while "wearing" only an inflatable sheep' flavour?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Tarnop posted:

His supporters explicitly want a return to the days of the Labour leader responsible for PFI

John Major wasn't Labour, but you're right ol' tonty really loved him some PFI too.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1406297754536660995?s=21

Definitely a stable, healthy organisation there.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I assume that this means Labour is getting Stonger.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
or at least more stategic

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Red Oktober posted:

I 100% think so, there's a lot of breweries out there, but I view this as something like a gym for homebrewers - you don't need to own the kit, you don't need to maintain and clean it, and you don't need a massive amount of space which is in short supply in London (no gardens, sheds, garages etc). Plus you can meet other people and learn from them / help each other out.

The wedding one is a perfect example - I used to brew with a guy and we made a beer for his wedding, which I was best man at. One idea I want to explore is people coming to the brewery for a stag do, make the beer during the do, and then serve it at the wedding.

So you're going to organise piss-ups in a brewery? That's just showing off.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

https://twitter.com/ObserverUK/status/1406315232583061510?s=20


lol

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

TBH Bercow was expected to defect to Labour prior to becoming speaker so this isn't that surprising. Bit annoying he didn't do it under Corbyn though what with being a Jewish lad who thought the accusations of anti-Semitism towards Corbs was bollocks, but I suppose defecting while Speaker would be a mite sus.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
make bercow leader god knows he couldn’t be worse

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



bump_fn posted:

make bercow leader god knows he couldn’t be worse

Honestly not a bad shout. He actually has a personality and is known for publicly dressing down the Tories. If nothing else he'd actually attempt to oppose them every now and then.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Bercow as leader would actually be extremely funny because I don't even know if he even disagrees with the tories politically as much as he thinks they're idiots.

Which I'm not even sure how that compares to starmer agreeing with them politically and apparently being much more incompetent and also taking every opportunity to say how good he thinks the government is.

And hey, he's done far more to increase labour's number of MPs than Starmer :v:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Trip report from vaccinating at the London Stadium - loving *bizarre* going in there without a game on, even weirder having hundreds of people with needles in the drinking areas under the stand.

About half way in I think I must have offended someone because I got exiled to the outside on "signposting" duties - yep, literally doing a job you could do with a bit of cardboard. One unexpected highlight was the two absolutely *stunning* women who asked me to help them take a pic of themselves outside of the stadium and any thought I have of completely wowing them with my superior photographic abilities was destroyed when they handed me an Olympus Trip AF, an 80s compact camera that was one of the first cameras I ever used and which I then spent a while selling in one of my first jobs, and I blurted out those facts, demonstrating I was in full time employment *at least* a decade before either of them were born. Pity, I was definitely in there, otherwise.

What an *incredibly* weird thing for hipsters to glom onto though, I get it with the older 70s cameras with that black leather/brushed steel look, but this is just a cheap bit of plastic, barely stronger than one of those disposable cameras. Anyway they were *slightly* impressed by my demonstration that you get better results for full-length portraiture if you lower the camera to just below the waist - although they might just have been impressed that my fat arse managed to get down to a kneeling position and back up without a block and tackle.

Anyway not long after that a shitload of anti-vaxers turned up and gently caress me they can make some noise. Fair play to These Youngsters With Their Weirdly Specific Camera Choices though. they not only ignored the weirdos, they took great delight in arguing with them. Little bit of real-world Twitter going on, really, particularly the bit where the weirdos bellowing at young people what they're supposed to do just couldn't understand why they weren't getting any results. There was a bit of unpleasantness with them harassing the younger women volunteers (and fair play to London Stadium security who are frankly normally wankers, they were *very* quick to interject themselves in those situations) so we all got moved back in behind the security cordon, which was a pity I think as it meant that a few people might have actually been scared off.

Even so, by the time I left, there was *still* a good solid thousand-person queue, and (through the magic of back-of-the-envelope guessing on our part, not anything like an official number) there'd been at least 10k people through.

In summary A+ would volunteer again except I won't because for some reason it seems to have been a one-off thing that was barely advertised until a few days before. They could do this every weekend until the season starts (and when West Ham are away) and probably make a significant dent, but it really feels like this was just a bit of a publicity stunt.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
i’m bummed that the lambeth vaccination site isn’t in the kennington oval

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Josef bugman posted:

I assume that this means Labour is getting Stonger.

The grown ups are even more in charge.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

A couple asked me to take a photo of them at whitby a while back and gave me a very old digital camera to do so, I want to say like, 2000's ish but early miniaturization and LCD screens. Maybe 2005.

Such an odd thing to see nowadays with even old phones being on par with them for picture quality.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

OwlFancier posted:

A couple asked me to take a photo of them at whitby a while back and gave me a very old digital camera to do so, I want to say like, 2000's ish but early miniaturization and LCD screens. Maybe 2005.

Such an odd thing to see nowadays with even old phones being on par with them for picture quality.

even if the pixel density on a phone is comparable to a dslr the physical size of the sensor is smaller and the lenses aren’t as good

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bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Trip report from vaccinating at the London Stadium - loving *bizarre* going in there without a game on, even weirder having hundreds of people with needles in the drinking areas under the stand.

About half way in I think I must have offended someone because I got exiled to the outside on "signposting" duties - yep, literally doing a job you could do with a bit of cardboard. One unexpected highlight was the two absolutely *stunning* women who asked me to help them take a pic of themselves outside of the stadium and any thought I have of completely wowing them with my superior photographic abilities was destroyed when they handed me an Olympus Trip AF, an 80s compact camera that was one of the first cameras I ever used and which I then spent a while selling in one of my first jobs, and I blurted out those facts, demonstrating I was in full time employment *at least* a decade before either of them were born. Pity, I was definitely in there, otherwise.

What an *incredibly* weird thing for hipsters to glom onto though, I get it with the older 70s cameras with that black leather/brushed steel look, but this is just a cheap bit of plastic, barely stronger than one of those disposable cameras. Anyway they were *slightly* impressed by my demonstration that you get better results for full-length portraiture if you lower the camera to just below the waist - although they might just have been impressed that my fat arse managed to get down to a kneeling position and back up without a block and tackle.

Anyway not long after that a shitload of anti-vaxers turned up and gently caress me they can make some noise. Fair play to These Youngsters With Their Weirdly Specific Camera Choices though. they not only ignored the weirdos, they took great delight in arguing with them. Little bit of real-world Twitter going on, really, particularly the bit where the weirdos bellowing at young people what they're supposed to do just couldn't understand why they weren't getting any results. There was a bit of unpleasantness with them harassing the younger women volunteers (and fair play to London Stadium security who are frankly normally wankers, they were *very* quick to interject themselves in those situations) so we all got moved back in behind the security cordon, which was a pity I think as it meant that a few people might have actually been scared off.

Even so, by the time I left, there was *still* a good solid thousand-person queue, and (through the magic of back-of-the-envelope guessing on our part, not anything like an official number) there'd been at least 10k people through.

In summary A+ would volunteer again except I won't because for some reason it seems to have been a one-off thing that was barely advertised until a few days before. They could do this every weekend until the season starts (and when West Ham are away) and probably make a significant dent, but it really feels like this was just a bit of a publicity stunt.

Are you or the ladies in the photo on the BBC report??

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