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executives commonly do not live in reality and usually have completely insane ideas both on 1. what will actually be good and 2. what will make more money
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the best example of that kinda 'gross fans!!' discourse being a bit toxic is, bang dream is a multimedia franchise about a bunch of high school girl fans. it has a very heavily female fanbase who are mostly in it for female/female shipping, there's not that many male fans whatsoever and the writing is very focused on the relationships between the characters, there's no player self-insert in the mobile game or audience stand in in the anime. like - two? - years ago there was an incident where they randomly had a character refer to her 'little brother.' the character was specifically an only child, it was part of her characterization up to that point and had been referenced before, so some people complained about it or were confused. one of the writers said they just figured her mother had another kid, people complained a bit more that it would have been nice to have an event focused on the character like, preparing to be a big sister, or adjusting to the idea of suddenly having a sibling, that kinda thing, rathe than just having the concept dropped in, since the game is very focused on minutiae like that. one of the higher-ups at the company that makes bang dream then went on stage and said 'Well, its fine to have men around, so long as they're too old or too young to get it up!!!' sitcom laugh track. it was a huge incident, people complaiend massively, the line referencing her brother was completely removed in an attempt to pretend it never happened. several pretty prominent fanartists completely disengaged with the franchise in disgust, it didn't kill the franchise or anything but it turned a fair few people off and soured the fanbase. western news sites dutifully reported this as 'gross male fans riot because a boy talked to their precious waifu'.
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Gudako should get voiced by Tomoko Kaneda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcLaowF97rw
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I'd be interested in seeing if having the female character be default in a gacha game would significantly shift the demographic of which version was used more. I would completely buy both "most people match their gender" and "most people just go with the default". Endorph posted:no not really, gudako is way more popular than gudao. people always say stuff like this and its never because of the fans, its because of executives. Are you basing that off which has more fanart or did it come up in a poll? The ones I've seen were always just for servants. The Colonel posted:i think the cruft is part of why nasu's stories are intereting and why they're a bit unadaptable. hopefully if they have any plans for an anime for tsukihime remake, it's being planned in advance in a way that can work on its own cause uh. man. gently caress. i watched the og tsuki anime this year and it was... one of the most loving boring vn adaptations i've ever seen. and i am a huge hater of the first season of the higurashi anime. but like at least you almost get the basic beats out of that, the tsuki anime is like... i dunno if you could make a more boring and toothless adaptation than what they gave us. I think he could use another editing pass to cut down on some of the redundant parts but overall that's what I was trying to get at; A lot of FSN isn't 'necessary' to the plot or understanding the characters or anything but that doesn't mean it doesn't add to it.
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Jun 20, 2021 03:15
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im pretty sure gudako and djeeta are both more popular despite not being default
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Djeeta cute I like the class outfit for Soldier where she's Ripley and Gran is Rambo
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Gran and Gudao are extremely popular theres just like a western narrative that no one likes them. it's not based in reality at all outside EN twitter takes.
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getting mad at basketball
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Gran and Gudao are extremely popular theres just like a western narrative that no one likes them. it's not based in reality at all outside EN twitter takes. iirc the famitsu surveys have djeeta being used more than gran but i could be misremembering i don't actually know for sure about gudao vs gudako but she feels more popular i guess
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this is more about who people like more not whether people don't like them, at least was what I meant
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GFL went with fem!commander for its official manga adaptation and she rules. It did prompt the loreheads to call her a mary sue and send the mangaka a 10+ page google doc on how to write her better but I guess I should have expected no better from the fanbase that is the worst confluence of gun nuts, armchair generals and gacha addicts.
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Ibblebibble posted:GFL went with fem!commander for its official manga adaptation and she rules. It did prompt the loreheads to call her a mary sue and send the mangaka a 10+ page google doc on how to write her better but I guess I should have expected no better from the fanbase that is the worst confluence of gun nuts, armchair generals and gacha addicts. Doesn't that have like, four that are a mix of genders? I think the only major gacha game I basically never see a female player character in is AL.
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Aurora posted:iirc the famitsu surveys have djeeta being used more than gran but i could be misremembering Gudao is alot more popular than you'd think, which I actually find kind of bizarre since unlike Gran he has way more of a bland design.
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Altho I think Gudako also has a very boring design within the confines of the game itself too. People do fun things with both of them in fan art and such but they are so drat boring as is.
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verbal enema posted:getting mad at basketball
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Granted it's a small sample size but the people I know that play Granblue majority prefer Djeeta their is a sizeable group that play and like Gran. Western fans misreading or misinterpreting anime statistics is nothing new. Some western Precure fans still think the adult male audience is the second biggest market even when sales figures in Bandai/Toei reports state adult women are the second biggest market after kids
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gudako gets good outfits. her summer 3 is a great design it's kinda just a bummer that like the fgo manga actually do fun stuff with gudao/gudako in terms of personality while the anime stuff is always so... bland The Colonel fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jun 20, 2021 |
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do we know what the numbers are on which Traveler people more often play as in Genshin? I vaguely remember when it first released the brother was the more common choice but idk if that was true or, if so, is still the case
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It's kinda of the same for Gran in the GBF anime. He feels so dull cause the anime is following the game story for the most part whereas the Djeeta episodes are unique stories and thus feel more fun. Which is why when Gran gets an episode where it's an original story he gets to show way more personality
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Jun 20, 2021 04:51
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rise up, players who picked aether to game the fact that men run and climb faster to speedrun the intro and do rerolls
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Keep in mind for a lot of games like that you get weird statistics for stuff like "all players" vs "active players" iirc if you go by all players FF14 is overwhelmingly male humans, but if you go by people who have actually logged in within the last month or something the most popular is catgirls by a lot (either way I play the least popular sex/race combination, though. whoops!)
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Gudao being so bland in the anime is extra weird considering the player gets some good lines in FGO.
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Aurora posted:im pretty sure gudako and djeeta are both more popular despite not being default Gudako IS the default option in FGO.
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DoubleDonut posted:(either way I play the least popular sex/race combination, though. whoops!) Is that still roegadames?
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dogsicle posted:rise up, players who picked aether to game the fact that men run and climb faster to speedrun the intro and do rerolls wait they do wtf
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dogsicle posted:rise up, players who picked aether to game the fact that men run and climb faster to speedrun the intro and do rerolls It's funny how people picked lumine because she's voiced by aoi yuuki but you only hear her talk if you picked aether. joker's trick.
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Aurora posted:wait they do men run/climb faster, women swim faster. those seem to increase alongside height, so there might be less disadvantage of a comparison between like teen boy and tallest woman but i don't remember seeing such specific comparisons. this would also mean short characters just plain suck, which is weird
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i guess I should run around as eula instead of klee....
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kirbysuperstar posted:Is that still roegadames? Looks like it.  
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Aurora posted:wait they do It's primarily a function of height, and the short male skeleton is slightly taller than the short female skeleton. in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjjhjaU14dM
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i guess now is the time to find out if my dash spamming is actually worse than just running
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i'm glad that at least with sayu they are giving me not only an epic shortie, but she can roll into a ball and sonic around the overworld at (presumably) increased speeds for 10s intervals
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games need to stop discriminating by gender and start discriminating by height
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Stexils posted:games need to stop discriminating by gender and start discriminating by height 
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Stexils posted:games need to stop discriminating by gender and start discriminating by height Dragon's dogma reigns supreme
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Ibram Gaunt posted:It's funny how people picked lumine because she's voiced by aoi yuuki but you only hear her talk if you picked aether. joker's trick. i hate this poo poo so much! it's the worst in astral chain too. don't make me lose out on a character's voice acting just cause i wanted to play as them! the worst worst instances of this are some old licensed vns. why do the strawberry panic and strike witches ps2 games not give va to the pov character. i don't think yoshika is much of a player insert here. why doesn't she get va...
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Gran and Gudao are extremely popular theres just like a western narrative that no one likes them. it's not based in reality at all outside EN twitter takes. DoubleDonut posted:Keep in mind for a lot of games like that you get weird statistics for stuff like "all players" vs "active players" the regional differences are also kinda funny. like on that chart that got posted, female lalafell are nearly as popular as catgirls in japan, and the lionmen are somewhat popular in na but barely anyone plays them in jp
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