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Last Celebration posted:Route C spoilers: wow, that new ending to the Shipwreck. It’s funny how the “good” version just leaves me kinda empty and I almost wanna cry now. That boss fight was some real Automata poo poo though, couldn’t help getting kinda hype. Once you’re in the last version of that boss fight the time limit is trivial, fwiw.
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Gonna do ending e So far I feel that baby nier is a better narrative character than papa nier, it also makes a few scenes in the original look more right especially when nier yells at Kaine that they are friends! Friends live for each other!, Emil saying he wants to see nier again at the end and the awkward kiss/no kiss bits. The sense of desperation also looks better when it's a child especially the intro sequence. I also appreciate they made Emil's dialogue before the facade wedding more gay and in love with nier than the original papa nier version.
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Jun 19, 2021 03:37
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Most of the game is a lot more gay now in general
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Gonna do ending e Yeah that’s been my take too, like I’m sure Jamison Price did a phenomenal job as far as acting Father Nier goes but there’s been a lot of spots where having Brother Nier was always the intention and anything else would seem jank, from the obvious bits like being able to use giant anime swords and lances post-timeskip to (Ending B spoilers) the ending with Young Shadowlord huddled in a ball bawling because his millennia-spanning quest ended in total failure doesn’t seem like it would hit quite as hard if it wasn’t a kid. Also the dynamic of a young adult and seemingly stock JRPG protagonistbeing as hostile and vitriolic as he is towards Shades and anything associated with shades, regardless of whether or not they act like thinking, passive creatures is kinda uniquely creepy in way an adult protagonist wouldn’t be but that could just be how good his VO is.
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Jun 19, 2021 06:26
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gently caress lol I saw the massive flower emerging and thought "no don't make me do the drakengard 1 and 3 ending e gently caress noooooo!!!" and then the credits rolled thank God lmao Game good
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Jun 19, 2021 07:44
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Do the time attack trophies only consider the fight finished when the cutscenes after are done? I just figured the game checked the time taken and gave you the trophy if you met it after you did all the cutscenes since, you know, that would actually make sense, but I’m pretty sure I beat (Route C/D spoilers)final Popula/Devola in well under the needed time of three and a half but only skipped through some of the post-dialogue (I already got Ending C and I’m just gunning for D now). That umm, really really loving sucks that they take the post-cutscene dialogue into account, but I guess it explains how I don’t have all the trophies post-timeskip after turbokilling most of the bosses.
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Jun 21, 2021 05:39
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p sure all the timed boss achievements include all in-game cutscenes and dialogue so if you're mashing through and still not getting it, consider chugging a STR potion
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Jun 21, 2021 05:52
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It kinda says a lot that HOLY gently caress SPOILERSeven knowing that there’s a way to get one of your saves back the whole sequence of seeing your stuff deleted, gradually getting slower over time, was still pretty harrowing to watch. Like yeah technically Automata does the same thing but it’s a much different feel. And wow, it almost feels cruel leaving Kaińe behind and erasing Nier’s existence. “Something precious”... I also appreciate the effort of taking the Protagonist out of the credits. On to one last round of rehashed bull crap!
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Jun 21, 2021 06:11
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Yeah one of the big things I appreciate about ending e is returning agency to Kaine and also giving her a whole new arc to her character growth. When she shouted abuse at nier for doing a "heroic sacrifice" that left her and everyone behind I was going, hell yeah tell that doofus lol. It's also interesting to put the nier r ending d in parallel with drakengard ending d, the latter where seer convinced himself that he was the hero in a fable his mom told him and thus he needed to go and save the world, yet gently caress over almost every named person in the game (other than verdelet for some gd reason) and the world didn't appear to be better off, leaving us with the title card "dreams of a deluded child".
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Jun 21, 2021 06:34
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Last Celebration posted:Do the time attack trophies only consider the fight finished when the cutscenes after are done? I just figured the game checked the time taken and gave you the trophy if you met it after you did all the cutscenes since, you know, that would actually make sense, but I’m pretty sure I beat (Route C/D spoilers)final Popula/Devola in well under the needed time of three and a half but only skipped through some of the post-dialogue (I already got Ending C and I’m just gunning for D now). You’re gonna be v mad because the timer for that particular fight starts the moment you enter the room, so the subtitled dialogue counts. Also, it ends only when you get control of Nier back so after the cutscenes AND the new Emil textplay e: with what I’d humbly describe as optimal play, I got 3:40 between the two. Load times don’t count though. Start mashing! goblin week fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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goblin week posted:You’re gonna be v mad because the timer for that particular fight starts the moment you enter the room, so the subtitled dialogue counts. Also, it ends only when you get control of Nier back so after the cutscenes AND the new Emil textplay Lol, that’s vintage Cavia mean spirited jank, I can’t even be mad at that point it’s just too fuckin funny.
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Route E spoilersgently caress YEAH TOP BOY EMIL COMIBG OUT OF NOWHERE WITH THE CLUTCH SAVE Edit: that was sure a great trip. Got to unerase my Nier from existence, that’s real neat. Going through an entire dungeon where AIs lecture you about how the Gestalts are going berserk because of what fuckups we are is...kinda sobering though. At least I got a super OP sword that I’ll never use! And the cast said bye to me, which is actually pretty nice, I can’t imagine how good it felt to hear that from the guys who were playing the original Nier when the original sendoff was Route D. Last Celebration fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Jun 22, 2021 18:12
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Wow, that's not bad for Replicant, and absurd for Automata. A lot of pretty big game franchises never have gotten close to six million. (Also, near done with Replicant, probably not going for plat, and I have to admit, the repetition is getting to me. Especially with the talking segments of the boss fights.)
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Jun 23, 2021 09:56
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These numbers must guarantee a next project right?
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LorneReams posted:These numbers must guarantee a next project right? Depends on if Yoko Taro feels like getting up early.
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LorneReams posted:These numbers must guarantee a next project right? I think so, I saw rumors around the time the remake came out that there was already hiring going on for it. But it's probably going to be with either the remake team or some new random contract studio since platinum is tied up with the tower of babel game, so uhhh quality may not be guaranteed
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Jun 23, 2021 17:15
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Give us Drakengard Remastered. Wanna play it on switch.
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No Mods No Masters posted:I think so, I saw rumors around the time the remake came out that there was already hiring going on for it. But it's probably going to be with either the remake team or some new random contract studio since platinum is tied up with the tower of babel game, so uhhh quality may not be guaranteed The remake was good, so if whatever the new game turns out to be is even just as good as that, i'm happy
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I'm really glad this weird rear end series is doing so well. I love it
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I'm really glad this weird rear end series is doing so well. I love it I read this rear end "weird rear end-series" and not "weird-rear end series". I just wanted to let you know. Please do not elaborate 
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beep by grandpa posted:I read this rear end "weird rear end-series" and not "weird-rear end series". I just wanted to let you know. Please do not elaborate I mean Yoko Taro does seem to love asses
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2bass fishing game
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Just caught this had been released through Steam sale. I don't know if I have it in me to play through it but anyone know if The Dark Id is going to do a let's play?!
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Levin posted:Just caught this had been released through Steam sale. I don't know if I have it in me to play through it but anyone know if The Dark Id is going to do a let's play?! You should play it
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Pablo Nergigante posted:You should play it it's extremely good yeah. it even has a super easy automated mode where the game plays itself during battles so you can just experience the story etc if that's the thing holding you back
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Jun 26, 2021 04:18
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Play the sad game
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It's worth playing even if I read went through all of The Dark Id's LP on the original Nier and played Automata? That sounded like a nightmare that I think I found far more entertaining as a bystander watching the insanity unfold.
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I mean you're in the thread for fans of the game, what do you think we're going to tell you?
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Omfg you're a grown-up; if you want to play it, play it! What are you asking us for
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Levin posted:It's worth playing even if I read went through all of The Dark Id's LP on the original Nier and played Automata? That sounded like a nightmare that I think I found far more entertaining as a bystander watching the insanity unfold. Nier is a game worth experiencing, warts and all, plus, you know, theres a difference between reading an LP about a dumbshit kid and his merry band of mass murderers loving up the planet and actually engaging in it. Plus, you know, there’s new poo poo for us Automata-come-latelies But yeah my dude, you’re an adult, if you don’t think the remaster of a cool jank game is worth experiencing for yourself wait for a sale or something.
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Levin posted:It's worth playing even if I read went through all of The Dark Id's LP on the original Nier and played Automata? That sounded like a nightmare that I think I found far more entertaining as a bystander watching the insanity unfold. I bought the original Nier because of that LP, and then platinumed (legit) Automata when it came out. I consider the original Nier one of my favorite games of all time. I say all that to tell you that the Nier Remake is absolutely worth playing through. there's new content, and the new ending ties the OG Nier into Automata much more strongly than the original ever did. The remake's combat is not as smooth as Automata's, but it's still good. And I think Nier's story is stronger than Automata's, but I've seen a lot of back and forth on that front.
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Soysaucebeast posted:I bought the original Nier because of that LP, and then platinumed (legit) Automata when it came out. I consider the original Nier one of my favorite games of all time. I say all that to tell you that the Nier Remake is absolutely worth playing through. there's new content, and the new ending ties the OG Nier into Automata much more strongly than the original ever did. The remake's combat is not as smooth as Automata's, but it's still good. And I think Nier's story is stronger than Automata's, but I've seen a lot of back and forth on that front. I feel like Replicant’s story is better but Automata as an overall experience feels more…cohesive? Like in Replicant the side quests are like 75% “hey can you do some tedious chores for me” and the reward is Weiss and occasionally Kaine grousing about doing tedious chores and some of them have actual story relevance or are neat in other ways like the lighthouse lady stuff. Whereas Automata’s almost all feel worthwhile cause they’re genuinely amusing like the Father Servo/carnival ticket stuff, feel relevant cause it’s “show don’t tell” storytelling, or actually startlingly relevant, like how the Jackass time attack missions are pretty relevant to “you’re thinking about how much you want to **** 2B”. Basically how I see it is that Replicant is Earthbound; a clunky JRPG that feels out of its time relative to release but is worthwhile for its narrative, and Automate is Mother 3, which is staggering in how much better it is, but whether or not Replicant/Automata is the better experience is subjective and depends on your taste, if that makes sense. Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jun 27, 2021 |
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I mean if you saw the LP you saw the game, there isn’t any real difference. The gameplay is pretty meh so whether you should get it depends on how much you need to experience things yourself
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean if you saw the LP you saw the game, there isn’t any real difference. :/
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You've read the plot synopsis, that's just like playing the game, right? If you're interested enough to ask just do it. I read the LP, but it's a very different experience to play the game directly. The remake also has: -better graphics -new cutscenes and content not in the original -you play as brother Nier instead of Dad -you get to experience boar-drifting first hand! If you don't get why playing the game yourself is different from reading a screenshot LP please go outside today and try to figure out why that's different from reading about it.
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Hey I’m the only one that is willing to tell him the truth. I’ve done both and there really isn’t a difference If people want to get mad at that I’m okay with that
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Last Celebration posted:I feel like Replicant’s story is better but Automata as an overall experience feels more…cohesive? Like in Replicant the side quests are like 75% “hey can you do some tedious chores for me” and the reward is Weiss and occasionally Kaine grousing about doing tedious chores and some of them have actual story relevance or are neat in other ways like the lighthouse lady stuff. Whereas Automata’s almost all feel worthwhile cause they’re genuinely amusing like the Father Servo/carnival ticket stuff, feel relevant cause it’s “show don’t tell” storytelling, or actually startlingly relevant, like how the Jackass time attack missions are pretty relevant to “you’re thinking about how much you want to **** 2B”. While I 100% agree with everything you wrote here, I've always been partial to character driven stories than thematic ones. And while the characterization in Automata is definitely there and strong, I don't think I've latched on to any of them as much as I have Kaine, Weiss and Emil. Those three lovable idiots made such an impression on me, and they really elevated the story they were in. 9S is up there too (I still get chills at his breakdown), but I never felt too strongly about 2B and A2. Heck, I forget what A2's whole deal was sometimes and that never happened with the original cast. But again, which you like better really comes down to what sort of stories you like better, and I just happen to like the type of story Nier is more than Automata. Neither one is bad, and I really think it's perfectly fine to prefer Automata to Nier. It's all a matter of personal preference, and I really do enjoy what the did with Automata. I just like Kaine, Weiss, and Emil more. CharlestheHammer posted:Hey I’m the only one that is willing to tell him the truth. I think there is a difference in watching an LP vs playing for Nier. When you play it and get to the point where you understand what the shades are saying, you feel culpable for killing all these essentially peaceful creatures. It's a real Shadow of the Colossus moment. Reading a LP get you to understand what happened, but you're a layer removed from it, and don't get that "This is on my head" feeling you get while playing. Maybe that's just me getting too info the game, but having read the LP and played the game, I think playing it is the better experience (and absolutely worth it, if you can afford to buy it). Edit: I've tried to get my spoiler tags working for like three edits now and they show up in the edit window but not my post. I have no idea what's going on there. Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jun 27, 2021 |
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