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I really liked reading the final ninja war arc, mainly because each chapter had such a wild rear end-pull or powerup that it was great to sit back and watch the train wreck. Madara was so laughably overpowered that only infinite stamina zombie-ninja gods could hold him back, and they only beat him because the actual ninja god appeared and gave his divine intervention to Naruto and Sasuke.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Hey y'all, Pirate Warriors 3 and 4 are on sale on Steam and I recall a bunch of people saying good things about the games. I should be buying 4, right? Both are good for different reasons imo. PW3: Engine is more refined as it's on the same one as 1 and 2 Plays through every story arc up to Dressorsa Ostensibly cheaper Only DLC are costumes and some missions so you can feel free to just get the base game. PW4: New engine which means it's way more rough around the edges but when it feels good it feels really good Some arcs are cut but it goes all the way up to Wano Characters are to scale with eachother so playing as someone like Katakuri or Whitebeard feels really unique and powerful 9 additional characters are DLC Both have alternate endings of the arcs that were being written as the game was coming out (dressrosa/wano) so you don't get teased with a cliffhanger ending, which is neat. Personally if you're strapped for cash or don't want to invest too much you can stick with 3 but 4's engine and level up system is really neat and shows promise for future entries.
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Jun 21, 2021 16:43
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Both 3 and 4 are worth it full price to me, but if you want to pick just one it's not an easy choice I'd say. PW3 has more replay value through collectibles, and a complete storyline up until that point (dressrosa, with a made up ending). The main mechanic that I miss from PW3 is fighting alongside different crewmates, stacking up their abilities, and by the time you're at the end of the level, causing complete chaos with every special you do. PW4 has gaps in the storyline, but goes up to Wano (with a made up ending), better cinematics, cool new characters, and gameplay that you can 100% pretty swiftly. So if grinding for 100's of hours is not what makes you tick, go for this one.
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Jun 21, 2021 16:46
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Pirate Warriors 3 is like 7 bucks and 4 is like 20 bucks so it's not really gonna hurt my wallet but I'm wondering if I wanna play a similar game twice, especially when I have to play other games I bought too, like Tales of Bersy.
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Jun 21, 2021 16:49
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Just do like you do with Pokémon games: Look up which characters are in which version and pick whichever one has more of your favorites. Unless Barto is your favorite because I am sad to say he's hands down the worst character in the game 
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Jun 21, 2021 16:56
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Like when I was younger I played like 4 different Dynasty Warriors and all the Orochi Warriors games but I'm a decrepit old man in my 30s now.
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Jun 21, 2021 16:56
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Isn't the pc version of pirate warriors 3 some older generation of console version?
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Jun 21, 2021 17:15
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Get PW4 and play as Kaido, Smoothie, or Akainu to just obliterate everything
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Jun 21, 2021 17:23
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With the mess of nonsense that Naruto became it still looks expertly planned in comparison to Bleach.
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Jun 21, 2021 17:30
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kdrudy posted:With the mess of nonsense that Naruto became it still looks expertly planned in comparison to Bleach. Bleach became and ungodly mess and super bad, but it at least had some sense that parts of it were planned. The Ichigo is also a Quincy twist was nicely foreshadowed and was definitely planned, just a shame that it amounted to literally nothing. The rest was very bad and suffered from 'being a mega-war arc' and 'near-unkillable villain' syndrome just like naruto, but it solved it by giving a way for him to be killed, whereas Naruto could not find a way to do that and just replaced the unkillable villain with another completely-unforshadowed unkillable sexist moon villain that could conveniently be defeated by the two magic tattoos I just now placed on our protagonists hands. Like both endings sucked rear end but to me Naruto felt nonsensical, drawnout, ad-hoc and bad, whereas Bleach just felt drawnout and bad. Bisse fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Jun 21, 2021 17:53
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Ryaomon posted:Just do like you do with Pokémon games: Look up which characters are in which version and pick whichever one has more of your favorites. Knowing nothing about the game and how it plays, what makes Barto so bad?
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Jun 21, 2021 18:18
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Speaking of Kaguya, I'm rereading the series through Manga Plus and one of the minor villains, Kimimaro, has just been revealed to be the last survivor of the Kaguya clan, but I don't recall this being relevant to anything whatsoever, including when Kaguya turns up. Did anything ever come of that?
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Jun 21, 2021 18:24
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Speaking of Kaguya, I'm rereading the series through Manga Plus and one of the minor villains, Kimimaro, has just been revealed to be the last survivor of the Kaguya clan, but I don't recall this being relevant to anything whatsoever, including when Kaguya turns up. Did anything ever come of that? Not as far as I’m aware, no (maybe Kaguya used bones as one of her attacks but that’s about it as far as I recall)
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Jun 21, 2021 18:31
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Speaking of Kaguya, I'm rereading the series through Manga Plus and one of the minor villains, Kimimaro, has just been revealed to be the last survivor of the Kaguya clan, but I don't recall this being relevant to anything whatsoever, including when Kaguya turns up. Did anything ever come of that? Kaguya herself has similar bone powers, among her other absurd abilities. So presumably there is some connection.
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Jun 21, 2021 18:32
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I think the Kaguya clan are vaguely descended from the alien Kaguya in the same way the Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki and Hyuga clans were and their bloodline ability is related to a power she had.
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Jun 21, 2021 18:33
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XkyRauh posted:Knowing nothing about the game and how it plays, what makes Barto so bad? His gimmick he draws aggro (in a single player game) and plays defensively and as such does really low damage and takes way longer to finish missions with when 2/3 of the mission grading criteria is KO Count and Speed. He does have this moment in the alternate-wano arc at least. 
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Jun 21, 2021 18:38
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I think the Kaguya clan are vaguely descended from the alien Kaguya in the same way the Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki and Hyuga clans were and their bloodline ability is related to a power she had. Yeah, there’s a clan with a similar look/powers that shows up in the sequel series Boruto looking to continue what Kaguya started.
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Jun 21, 2021 18:40
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Oof, Boruto. I've been reading some of it, and there are some good fights, but it is absolutely joyless. There's no levity or humour to it at all, I think it would have ground me down completely if it wasn't monthly.
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Jun 21, 2021 18:51
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Oof, Boruto. Watch the anime instead, it’s better in pretty much every aspect, goes into some early stuff the manga doesn’t cover but still considers canon, the overall tone is more along the lines of pre-Shippuden Naruto, and the artstyle is more like Kishimoto’s than the new guy. Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Jun 21, 2021 18:56
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I read enough Boruto for the dude with the minigun and stopped there because I knew it was all down hill after that.
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Jun 21, 2021 18:57
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Also Bleach finale at least had some ridiculous and enjoyable poo poo like Masque de Masculine, and the brain in a jar that dies because it could not imagine any physically possible way to beat Kenpachi, (EDIT: Oh and Yhwach immediately breaking Ichigo's bankai before he could even use it was the right kind of hilarious) whereas Naruto was just... more edgelords doing powers on each other ad infinum.
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Jun 21, 2021 20:33
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Yeah, an issue I have with Naruto is it doesn’t take long for the characters to stop being ninjas and eventually just become wizards who occasionally use throwing weapons. Not to mention the whole spiel at the beginning about hard work and dedication being able to overcome anything that winds up being completely undercut by the end.
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Jun 21, 2021 20:40
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Larryb posted:Yeah, an issue I have with Naruto is it doesn’t take long for the characters to stop being ninjas and eventually just become wizards who occasionally use throwing weapons. I feel like people who complain about this are misunderstanding the premise to some degree. Naruto was always based on a folkloric concept of ninjas as tricky wizards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja#Legendary_abilities
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Jun 21, 2021 20:43
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in naruto everyone is in constant superposition with a log
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Jun 21, 2021 20:49
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I don't mind the ninja basically being mutant wizards. But it makes the setting weird to me. They live like it's feudal Japan but have TV's and radios like a modern setting and it isn't sitting well with me
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Jun 21, 2021 20:52
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Len posted:I don't mind the ninja basically being mutant wizards. But it makes the setting weird to me. They live like it's feudal Japan but have TV's and radios like a modern setting and it isn't sitting well with me Hell, in Boruto they also have video games, movies, and live news broadcasts yet at the same time there are still feudal lords in charge of the various nations. So yeah, I’m not sure what kind of world this series is meant to take place in Larryb fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Jun 21, 2021 20:54
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Len posted:I don't mind the ninja basically being mutant wizards. But it makes the setting weird to me. They live like it's feudal Japan but have TV's and radios like a modern setting and it isn't sitting well with me Yeah, that never really made much sense. The rule seems to be that they have 20th-century technology for everything except warfare and transportation. You can rationalize that it developed that way because ninjas didn't want non-ninjas having weapons that could fight against them, but it would be hard to suppress a technology in such a politically fragmented world. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Jun 21, 2021 20:55
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Honestly I love how the anachronisms in Naruto piled up and up until Kishimoto said the tech level is simply present day except there are no cars.
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Larryb posted:video games, movies, and live news broadcasts yet at the same time there are still feudal lords in charge of the various nations. gosh that's so different from the world we live in, totally, definitely,
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Silver2195 posted:I feel like people who complain about this are misunderstanding the premise to some degree. Naruto was always based on a folkloric concept of ninjas as tricky wizards. Thats cool but they're barely doing anything tricky or stealthy and it's just pure wizard fights. Like the only actual ninja in the timeskip is Kisame who hides in his sword and gives information away before suiciding so they can't get any information out of him. Compare that to the war against a necromancer where they might as well just be called Benders and be from Avatar. Kild fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Jun 21, 2021 21:12
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Bleck posted:gosh that's so different from the world we live in, totally, definitely, Yeah ok, fair point there
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Snazzy Frocks posted:in naruto everyone is in constant superposition with a log And magical talking animals are in a constant state of readiness to be plucked from the frog dimension directly into the path of whatever supermove some ninja needs saving from.
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Jun 21, 2021 22:35
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:And magical talking animals are in a constant state of readiness to be plucked from the frog dimension directly into the path of whatever supermove some ninja needs saving from. I thought the series got some comedic mileage out of the idea that sometimes they aren't; sometimes a ninja summons a different frog or snake or whatever than they mean to, or the frog or snake or whatever is sometimes annoyed to be summoned, and the summoner might have to do some fast-talking or negotiation on the spot. This was especially prevalent in filler, which loved having Naruto summon an incompetent frog because Gamabunta would have resolved the plot too quickly.
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Jun 21, 2021 22:42
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I just started watching the show. It's really good.
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Beginning of Arabasta impressions: Vivi and Chopper should have let the Kung Fu Jugons follow Luffy. I don’t care if some loser desert town wouldn’t allow them inside. They can Kung fu their way in.
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Larryb posted:Hell, in Boruto they also have video games, movies, and live news broadcasts yet at the same time there are still feudal lords in charge of the various nations. Its just the world of gintama but not meant to be funny
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Jun 22, 2021 02:40
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There's a guy with a gun leaning against his shop counter in the land of waves arc. Guns are never seen again.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Beginning of Arabasta impressions: Vivi and Chopper should have let the Kung Fu Jugons follow Luffy. I don’t care if some loser desert town wouldn’t allow them inside. They can Kung fu their way in. It would be pretty drat great if they marched on the rebels with an army of Dugons. But the arc overall is pretty good anyway.
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I started playing Pirate Warriors 4 and it's pretty fun! But the chase function is sorta lackluster, especially when I compare it to Persona 5 Striker's version where it instantly takes you to your target instead of haphazardly putting you somewhere in the area. I'm also too used to P5S's air combos, cause I keep expecting to be able to do Normal -> Charged transitions in midair and keep failing.
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If you have Katakuri give him a whirl. He's so hilariously OP he makes every other character look like chumps, but goddamn does feeling like a mochi god feel good. Smoothie and Cracker are also very fun, Cracker just needs a bit more finesse to do everything you want with him.
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