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Hot Karl Marx posted:So are tankies now just anyone left of liberals? liberals are anti human white supremacist settler colonialists on a phenomenological level they think that the rest of the world are primitives to be colonized by their delusions
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 16:20 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 10:39 |
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guidofication intensifies
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 17:01 |
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crepeface posted:thanks for this, finally got around to listening to all 3hrs of RWN 149. just lmao at the thought of holding carl zha to a single hour. he sounds pretty pessimistic about full uyghur integration, seems like the two school systems with separate languages really hosed with uyghur's upward mobility when china's market opened up. last month they did an "update" which describes daily life and Timppa has close friends in XUAR. from other things I've been reading/listening to, economical & education integration plans are way better now or succeeded. things like improving housing have really taken off since 2018. Timppa has a perspective I haven't heard before, which he describes the "softer" attempts to solve the extremist attacks failed and sympathizes (idk if this is the right word) more with these harsher programs like the involuntary re-education centers but it is really unfortunate when someone who may have done something really benign (iirc an example is going to the wrong website or saying something a little too spicy) but has no intentions to commit a terrorist attack gets swept up. Timppa describes the very real fear his friends and citizens had after all these attacks and how much things have improved since they introduced these programs and security. like over 200 people died over several years (including more secular Uyghurs) and now things are way safer. I'm trying to walk a fine line and explain a perspective that gets left out in all this arguing about Uyghurs Silk and Steel Podcast EP123-Xinjiang with Timppa Zmej has issued a correction as of 17:14 on Jun 22, 2021 |
# ? Jun 22, 2021 17:09 |
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Zmej posted:I went down the boat-hole last week and learned about how Reagan cut shipyard subsidies which destroyed like 40% of the work force (which has huge knock-on effects destroying other jobs down the line) and shrank our production ability of course too lol thank you president reagan!
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 17:20 |
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It really seemed like Trump being president turned democracy now into the embarrassing propaganda outlet it is today
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 17:22 |
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paul_soccer12 posted:It really seemed like Trump being president turned democracy now into the embarrassing propaganda outlet it is today given i dont know much about democracy now but the name alone pretty much screams state dept propaganda to me much like how our govt uses the words democracy and freedom to bludgeon the middle east with bombs and destabilizing others the we dont like Agrajag has issued a correction as of 17:40 on Jun 22, 2021 |
# ? Jun 22, 2021 17:33 |
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Agrajag posted:given i dont know much about democracy now but the name alone pretty much screams state dept propaganda to me It used to be really good back in the 2000s when it was one of the only center-left anti-war outlets out there Nowadays there's a bunch more competition and it does feel like the conversation on the left has shifted, while the channel itself hasn't and it has picked up a habit of toeing the line on certain topics like China or Syria.
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 18:01 |
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mate has been an honest critic of DN since he left for greener pastures. some of his threads about it https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1363913979597361154 https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1154791948764504065?lang=en
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 19:19 |
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Some Guy TT posted:visualizing innocent ughyurs strapped to the clockwork orange chair labeled the genocide chair and being forced to watch japanese porn while sicko xi has his hands on the window going yes...ha ha ha...yes!
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 19:27 |
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paul_soccer12 posted:mate has been an honest critic of DN since he left for greener pastures. some of his threads about it I think part of this is how aging leftists can get desperate for validation, and just want to be respected by their richer and more successful liberal peers.
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 19:51 |
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https://twitter.com/WEIWEIDAI4/status/1405691540089888770 can this be real?
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 20:01 |
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genericnick posted:https://twitter.com/WEIWEIDAI4/status/1405691540089888770 you gotta be a real rear end in a top hat to want to fight a panda lol
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 21:10 |
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Agrajag posted:you gotta be a real rear end in a top hat to want to fight a panda lol hes not even fighting it. the panda is just sitting there
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 21:14 |
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Agrajag posted:you gotta be a real rear end in a top hat to want to fight a panda lol Well it is Roosevelt.
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 21:23 |
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they should aspire to be like roosevelt's son
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 21:44 |
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lmfao 'a postion to change Illinois votes' Clinton won by almost 17 points.
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 21:51 |
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been seeing excerpts from this book How China Escaped Shock Therapy (https://www.amazon.com/Escaped-Ther...24399735&sr=8-1) and i really wanna read it nowquote:After an overwhelming success in inducing output growth in agriculture, the Rural Development Group was looking into new pressing issues in reform in 1984. One of them was price reform. Song Guoqing, a peasant’s son, was a brigade leader before entering Peking University as a student in geometry, and he had combined his mathematical skills with his interest in political economy to study modern microeconomics. Song had recently joined the group, and he suggested an experiment to test the effects of two kinds of price reforms (Luo, 2017). At the time, Du Runsheng had been promoted to be the head of the Rural Development Research Center under the State Council. He supported the idea and contacted Gao Yang, an economist and revolutionary veteran who was at the time party secretary of Hebei Province (ibid.; Chen, 2013, 311; Editorial Board of Who’s Who in China, 1989a). Gao agreed to provide the young researchers with whatever they needed to carry out the experiment (Luo, 2017). the scars from the GLF and GPCR really instilled a sense of caution in chinese policy people and carefully experimenting and testing stuff on local scales before implementing them on a larger one across the country. how china got from where it was to where it is now seems to be: by thinking about things very carefully and state planning.
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 23:13 |
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Rutibex posted:hes not even fighting it. the panda is just sitting there it's so loving funny, just a dude trying to menace a confused and famously docile and unthreatening animal.
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 23:24 |
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pandas suck, there I said it
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 23:54 |
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hurrr I’ve evolved to eat the most nutrient poor grass on the planet, please save me from my own deserved extinction for being a genetic dead end
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# ? Jun 22, 2021 23:55 |
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AND WHAT THE gently caress EVER HAPPENED TO COFFEE FLAVORED COFFEE!?
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 00:41 |
they should have done Giant Salamander Diplomacy instead of sending out their volcel bear
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 00:44 |
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Flunky posted:they should have done Giant Salamander Diplomacy instead of sending out their volcel bear lmao starting a petition.org to make pandas the official mascot of volcels
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 01:31 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:pandas suck, there I said it ill fight you theyre dumb but ill still fight you
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 01:54 |
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Flunky posted:they should have done Giant Salamander Diplomacy instead of sending out their volcel bear Volcel Bear was my other potential username
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 02:23 |
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https://twitter.com/IranIntl_En/status/1407380570485805058?s=19
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 02:29 |
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wait arent houthis the excuse we are using to genocide the yemeni's by using the kingdom as a proxy
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 03:33 |
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Zmej posted:I will say that these podcasts are now over 2 years old now, and in the beginning the integration attempts were a mess, especially the economic programs which contributed a lot to the tensions. thanks for the heads up. i'm ~halfway through RWN 160 with the russian guy who took a tourist trip through the region and from that one (~2.5 years ago), things were a bit oppressive and annoying. good to hear things seems to have gotten better.
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 09:15 |
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mila kunis posted:been seeing excerpts from this book How China Escaped Shock Therapy (https://www.amazon.com/Escaped-Ther...24399735&sr=8-1) and i really wanna read it now it's so loving amazing to see experiments with actual controls and to have negative results actually USED instead of going full steam ahead with a lovely idea. obviously, it's usually done in the west as a some kind of bullsit "due dilligence" cover so they can go ahead and privatise something for kickbacks or give their friends some lucrative contracts but i've seen it in scientific papers in peer reviewed journals way more than you'd think because they're chasing that grant money. fyi.... that (and most other books) are extremely easy to find on libgen
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 09:39 |
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The irony of doing this just as Apple Daily gets shut down in Hong Kong is amazing. Great job.
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 11:14 |
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/06/22/technology/xinjiang-uyghurs-china-propaganda.html Here we go again. All of these people are lying, there's no real anger at the american government pushing lies, it's all propaganda. I mean the subtext of the article is so amazing. "they're lying, but we're telling the truth" "The uyghers are doing the govt's bidding as propoganda. However, when we quote and interview mike Pompeo we are just nuetrally seeking knowledge" Makes me loving sick. The only actual ugyher interviewed in the article is presented as some harmless granny, so I looked her up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebiya_Kadeer Lol, married to a radio free asia guy, used to be a millionaire, has travelled the world formenting anger at china. Head of the east turkestan independence congress. It's truely amazing that none of that is in the story. Just like that woman who testified about the babies being pushed out of the incubators in kuwait. Man this poo poo makes me angry. The nyt really is the #1 propaganda spreader in the world.
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 12:16 |
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hidden gem is the number of kids listed. how do you run a corrupt business and run a government in exile on behalf of America with that many kids?
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 12:22 |
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Sinophobia starter pack: 1. *insert loaded question about China bad*, trust me I'm really just a neutral concerned truth seeker on good faith, but we should really nuke them 2. I hate the CCP, not the Chinese people, I'm not racist but look at all the scum DNA in their blood so we should also really nuke them
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 12:34 |
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Agrajag posted:wait arent houthis the excuse we are using to genocide the yemeni's by using the kingdom as a proxy The US is taking down the media sites of every "Axis of Resistance" member in the Arab world and Iran because we think that's going to be leverage against Iran to accept our demands in the new nuclear talks.
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 13:59 |
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iran should make a nuke, that would be good leverage
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 14:06 |
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Stringent posted:chomsky also has a long and disgusting history of genocide denial and the china defenders in this thread (and presumably CSPAM but I don't go there) closely follow that playbook. raise doubts about impartiality, distort statements and motives, outright lie if necessary - but only about your targets (the vague specter of "neoliberalism" or "imperialism" - they're interchangeable depending on what crowd you find yourself in). never apply the same scrutiny to statements of the perpetrators of genocide and above all never engage with the evidence on its own merits. (particularly appalling in the case of bellingcat whose evidence is always, by definition, readily available to anyone with an internet connection and can be verified more or less trivially.) you must always attack the source by any means necessary, even - perhaps especially - if that means fundamentally undermining trust in us NGOs and media institutions. its hosed up that you would compare chomsky to people who read the instructions on a republican ad-lib wrong :/
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 14:31 |
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Stringent posted:above all never engage with the evidence on its own merits. (particularly appalling in the case of bellingcat whose evidence is always, by definition, readily available to anyone with an internet connection and can be verified more or less trivially.) lmao learn to read
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 14:44 |
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Rutibex posted:iran should make a nuke, that would be good leverage Kim: Exactly
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 16:01 |
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https://twitter.com/PeterZeihan/status/1406995616324935683
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 19:39 |
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In the next great war all of these will be made into sherman neckties
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# ? Jun 23, 2021 19:40 |