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Lolie posted:The idea that I could incubate novel mutations is horrifying. I remember reading that paper It's horrifying, and tragic, and the clinical progression of mutation after mutation is just creepy AF. Anyone hosting the virus will be likely seeing some amount of mutations, and doing this with huge numbers of people with varying selection pressure and variant-variant exposures is the more serious public health issue. quote:The infecting strain was assigned to lineage 20B bearing the spike(D614G) variant. Environmental sampling showed evidence of virus on surfaces such as the telephone and call bell. Sequencing of these surface viruses showed clustering with those derived from the respiratory tract. All samples were consistent with having arisen from a single underlying viral population. Do not want. I am glad you are in a safe place Lolie and I hope you get big titers from your vaxx and remain well. Blitter fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:Dunno if that's a skeptical LOL or not but Cuba does one thing very well: literacy and public health. Two things. Literacy, public health and cucurucho de coco. Three thi...Well there's probably more. But Cuba's vaccine efforts are worth a read about at any rate. When you are embargoed by the world's most powerful state 80 miles from your border, you have to learn to do this kind of thing yourself I guess.
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Spazzle posted:I'm lolling over 4 digits of precision. a very specific LOL
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:a very specific LOL The curse of fighting statistics wars
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Blitter posted:I am glad you are in a safe place Lolie and I hope you get big titers from your vaxx and remain well. Thank you. Despite our government trying to sell the vaccination rollout as the pathway back to normal, I won't be changing my own behaviour in the foreseeable future. That should help protect both myself and others. And I am definitely fortunate to live in a place where community transmission is very low, although I remain mindful of how quickly that can change.
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Laughing at the tiny rear end (and relatively poor) island doing better than China lol
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Our current cluster continues to grow larger and the list of exposure sites grows longer. Most worrying is that CCTV has confirmed that merely walking past an infectious person in a shopping centre is enough for transmission to occur. Our mask mandate has been extended for another week and now includes shopping centres and hospitality venues. It's recommended that people wear masks in carparks. I hope we manage to avoid a lockdown, but I'm not confident that we will.
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I just got my text saying I can schedule an appointment for the mRNA 2nd dose! 
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Pyrtanis posted:I just got my text saying I can schedule an appointment for the mRNA 2nd dose! Thrilled on your behalf. Get that jab juice friend!
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Pyrtanis posted:I just got my text saying I can schedule an appointment for the mRNA 2nd dose! I've got my appointment tomorrow for an mRNA after getting Astra Zeneca in April and I couldn't be more thrilled. Meanwhile in Canada, we have apparently have a good number of people walking out on Moderna shots because they want to wait for Pfizer. Just in case anyone is wondering who the most spoiled brats on the planet are.
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Weird. I get why some people might want to skip J&J or AZ to wait for an mRNA vaccine, but the Moderna is basically just as good as Pfizer, isn't it? The small variation in efficacy numbers seems to come from different testing criteria during the trials.
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People choosing Pfizer over Moderna is a consequence of the authorities pretending that all vaccines are the same. Not everyone is credulous enough to believe that there’s no difference. They know that Pfizer’s vaccine posted excellent numbers in trials and ever since and that that’s the one that the fat cats in Washington got. They’re not knowledgeable enough to know that Moderna’s vaccine is so similar in structure and performance that it makes a fine substitute, but they’re more knowledgeable than most.
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WhiteHowler posted:Weird. I get why some people might want to skip J&J or AZ to wait for an mRNA vaccine, but the Moderna is basically just as good as Pfizer, isn't it? yeah you're talking about really splitting hairs between the two of them. whether they hold up long-term to delta, who knows, but a lot of unvaccinated idiots are running around here maskless and moderna's made me not dead yet!
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Platystemon posted:People choosing Pfizer over Moderna is a consequence of the authorities pretending that all vaccines are the same. Moderna, the "Is Pepsi okay?" of covid vaccines.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:yeah you're talking about really splitting hairs between the two of them. whether they hold up long-term to delta, who knows, but a lot of unvaccinated idiots are running around here maskless and moderna's made me not dead yet! I ended up with Pfizer, just because that's what my local CVS was using in early April. I would have happily taken Moderna. My state (the reddest of the red) is at an incredible 31% vaccinated. 
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My wife and I are both about a 6 weeks out from our 2nd dose of Moderna. In that time we've: Gone to the movies Gone to the zoo Seen my parents multiple times Started realistically planning a vacation for 2022 Visited a friend for the first time who had a baby that's now almost 2 years old I'll gladly stick with my Moderna, I would have taken Pfizer at the time, I am just so happy to have that protection.
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WhiteHowler posted:I ended up with Pfizer, just because that's what my local CVS was using in early April. I would have happily taken Moderna. drat, you're worse than GA's 34.8%. I'm sorry. Alabama?
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Platystemon posted:People choosing Pfizer over Moderna is a consequence of the authorities pretending that all vaccines are the same. Here in Ontario/Canada, I think the extremely high vaccination rate is affording people the comfort of feeling picky. They want the best one and feel like they can wait to get it because the vaccination pace is so high, it won't take long until they can get what they want. I'll take whatever they want to give me when they pull my number for my second shot (should be soon I guess), but I can't blame people for being choosey. I've gone from being the informed and knowledgeable one in my social circle to everyone I know having more up to date information on covid infection rates, variants, hospitalization numbers, vaccination efficacy rates and all that poo poo than me. Before I was begging people to do some independent research and source multiple viewpoints and opinions on all sorts of things in their lives rather than letting one "expert" (or worse, the loudest family member they have) inform their total outlook on something. Now they are, so I can't complain that they're making the "wrong" decision. This reminds me of when a firebrand political coworker of mine at an old job tried to whip up a bunch of non-political Liberal-voting people into action by getting them to really examine their beliefs and the party policies and accidentally flipped most of them to voting PC instead of NDP like he'd wished at the last provincial election. Like, yeah, they're informed now, and they've made their decision based on the information in front of them. He (and I) think that decision is going to actively hurt them and society (they helped vote in Doug Ford lmao), but our goal was to inform them rather than let propaganda or complacency decide their vote, and whoops, they're actually racist, nationalist idiots who like conservatism.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:drat, you're worse than GA's 34.8%. I'm sorry. Alabama? Yeah. Lucky me! It's a combination of deeply ingrained (inbred?) stupidity, and intense politicization (if Biden says you should get vaccinated, then we definitely won't do it!). Working against your own best interest is even more popular here than Jesus, guns, and Crimson Tide football. I probably have those three backwards in order of actual priorities. WhiteHowler fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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 This map of Toronto is blowing my mind right now. It's data from the last 2 weeks. About 3 million people live in the area depicted and we're only at ~20% fully vaccinated, but I think ~80% with one dose.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:Here in Ontario/Canada, ... I'll take whatever they want to give me when they pull my number for my second shot (should be soon I guess), but I can't blame people for being choosey. Wait Canada is mixing and matching vaccinations? I'd wait too just so I could get the same thing as my first shot
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nunsexmonkrock posted:Wait Canada is mixing and matching vaccinations? I'd wait too just so I could get the same thing as my first shot
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WhiteHowler posted:Yeah. Lucky me! I grew up primarily in AL. You definitely have some of those backwards in actual priorities. nunsexmonkrock posted:Wait Canada is mixing and matching vaccinations? I'd wait too just so I could get the same thing as my first shot so far it seems like mix and match works just as good as this.
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PHE for the actual stats, expect more to trickle out over the next few weeks. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-effective-against-variants-found-india-2021-06-22/ Pfizer and AZ found to be more than 90% effective at preventing hospitalisations
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So what's the REAL breakdown on this new covid strain. Do I actually need to get vaccinated this time or is it like the old one unless you super old/young? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Get your vaccine you moron
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The Delta/Indian variant is nasty because it will kick you in the balls no matter your age - Uk got something like 92% of over 65s fully vaccinated and it’s all unvaccinated younger people in the hospital now.
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Get your vaccine you moron  Imagine not getting vaccinated lmao
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:Here in Ontario/Canada, I think the extremely high vaccination rate is affording people the comfort of feeling picky. They want the best one and feel like they can wait to get it because the vaccination pace is so high, it won't take long until they can get what they want. I'll take whatever they want to give me when they pull my number for my second shot (should be soon I guess), but I can't blame people for being choosey. I've gone from being the informed and knowledgeable one in my social circle to everyone I know having more up to date information on covid infection rates, variants, hospitalization numbers, vaccination efficacy rates and all that poo poo than me. Before I was begging people to do some independent research and source multiple viewpoints and opinions on all sorts of things in their lives rather than letting one "expert" (or worse, the loudest family member they have) inform their total outlook on something. Now they are, so I can't complain that they're making the "wrong" decision. You'd think it's just those that can be picky are the ones doing it. Read on CBC news site that Brazil, which has record cases and is second to the US in deaths while only having 2/3rds their population, is turning their noses up at Astrazeneca. In Brazil they have 96% of their vaccines from a Chinese vaccine and Astrazeneca, while 4% is pfizer. Clinics with pfizer have lineups around the block while clinics with the others are having people pop their head in, ask if they have pfizer, then leave. All while the country is getting hammered. Canada is starting to turn its nose up to non pfizer but we took AZ when that's all we had.
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UK if they only have the AZ in stock then you get a choice of AZ or walking out on the sweet old woman who does the jabs after you are sat in the chair with your arm out. NHS played a master stroke in recruiting the army of retired nurse grandmas to do the jabs IMO.
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DrPlump posted:So what's the REAL breakdown on this new covid strain. Do I actually need to get vaccinated this time or is it like the old one unless you super old/young? Lol what. Even if all we still had was the "old one" it didn't just gently caress up the super old people so you'd be insane not to get vaccinated. The delta strain is way more contagious but so far it appears as though the vaccines provide pretty decent protection against it. Get vaccinated you moron.
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bloody footballers hugging and kissing each other then acting like someone popped their balloon when they're told, actually boys, you're staying in now for ten days. I can't even blame them though when you look at everyone else involved over the age of 20 acting like nothing matters. loving idiots.
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Delta and the other variants are leading to a nice rise in Chudland Utah now. Seeing as Chuds are who keep perculating COVID around and spreading it to the only small Blue areas in Utah hopefully they stay the hell out of Salt Lake County!!!!
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i have friends that live in saltlake city. do you know them?
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Delta is now coming into Australia from all parts of the world and there's no doubt it's going to be the dominant strain until something worse comes along. Queensland chief health officer said this morning that 10-15 seconds of contact is sufficient to transmit Delta, compared to 15 minutes for the strains which were around a year ago. Sydney should be in lockdown, but we're not.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i have friends that live in saltlake city. do you know them? more than likely i know someone they know
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Lolie posted:Delta is now coming into Australia from all parts of the world and there's no doubt it's going to be the dominant strain until something worse comes along. Yes we should be in lockdown. I wonder if Gladys will want to try a local lockdown of just the eastern suburbs, but I'm not sure how you would even manage that as they are not as easy to isolate as the Northern Beaches were back in Dec. We'll see how the numbers are today when they get released in just over an hour. We know there's a baseline of 7 cases as they were announced yesterday, so we'll see how many more were reported in that period.
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We're planning on lifting all our restrictions so the city can party and drink and gently caress for a week right as the Delta variant is taking off. This should be interesting. The province is a bit over 30% fully vaxxed, 71% have had their first dose. I feel like we're going to end up a case study. I never like Stampede anyway so I'm not ripping to go and join them even as a fully vaxxed person. If poo poo goes down, I'll at least feel comfort in not contributing to it.
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nunsexmonkrock posted:Wait Canada is mixing and matching vaccinations? I'd wait too just so I could get the same thing as my first shot AZ first shots have a choice of AZ or mRNA for the pit second. Which mRNA you get is mostly random so it’s a little hard to plan around.. Most of the gov clinics here just say Pfizer or Moderna and you get whatever they are giving out that day. When I got my first shot, the person next to me in line started making a big stink about getting Moderna but luckily for the poor volunteer, there was a last minute change and they were doing Pfizer that day. The lady who was giving me all my disclaimers and waivers said it happened all the time because the shipments keep changing and no one tells the front line people anything. The smaller pop up clinics will say specifically what they are using since they actually know what supplies they have.
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