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With Manchin it is, ostensibly as far as we can tell, about saving face with his voters. Notice how Barack Obama, in his endorsement of Manchin's voting rights package the other day, said of Manchin (paraphrased): "Joe Manchin is perhaps the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. Joe Manchin is perhaps the most conservative Democrat in all of Congress." I take statements like that as trying to help Manchin down the road to agreeing to something.
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sexpig by night posted:With Manchin it is, ostensibly as far as we can tell, about saving face with his voters. Notice how Barack Obama, in his endorsement of Manchin's voting rights package the other day, said of Manchin (paraphrased): "Joe Manchin is perhaps the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. Joe Manchin is perhaps the most conservative Democrat in all of Congress." 
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Jun 23, 2021 02:38
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Obama's on our side guys, right? Right????
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Jun 23, 2021 02:39
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Don't make me tap the sign on the wall that displays the "Machin cycle"!!!
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Jun 23, 2021 02:41
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i dont give a gently caress about manchin or sinema, if the democrats wanted to govern they could but they dont. anyone who allows that dog poo poo narrative wobble around in their in their dumbass brain for more than 1 picosecond is a loving rube. god drat im getting so pissed off
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sexpig by night posted:With Manchin it is, ostensibly as far as we can tell, about saving face with his voters. Notice how Barack Obama, in his endorsement of Manchin's voting rights package the other day, said of Manchin (paraphrased): "Joe Manchin is perhaps the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. Joe Manchin is perhaps the most conservative Democrat in all of Congress." It would be good if even the worse bill with Manchin's compromises passes but it's all kfabe because everyone know that he's never going to get 10 republican votes. The whole thing is just gaslighting.
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Jun 23, 2021 02:47
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china is violating the international law treaties we never read or signed, and so
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mcmagic posted:It would be good if even the worse bill with Manchin's compromises passes but it's all kfabe because everyone know that he's never going to get 10 republican votes. The whole thing is just gaslighting. It's not even gaslighting because everyone knew from second 1 that nothing was going to happen it's just wasting everyone's time for no reason
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Jun 23, 2021 02:48
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I'm talking about when basically every dem politician on social media is posting hard about how we need to save democracy and how the republicans are fascistic and doing jack poo poo about it. That is the gaslighting.
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Jun 23, 2021 02:51
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It's not fair to blame Biden re: For the People Act. Surprised to see the post saying that some are blaming the White House. Let's put this into perspective. The For the People Act is the single greatest legislative endeavor in decades. It's also the "end" of the GOP. The MORE people who vote, the better the DEMS do. Just look at 2020 and the expanded opportunities to vote. So the GOP resistance was entirely predictable. It was "Dead Bill Walking" from day one. The GOP would rather pass into law Universal Abortion and Universal Firearm bans than pass voter rights. So the next step... now work on more streamlined Voting Rights Bills and use this in '22 and '24 to demonstrate GOP recalcitrance. We MUST keep moving. President Biden is successful right now because he's exercising competent governance. 2022? Yeah, we're going to have to GOTV, hard. But that's the way it always is. Keep the chin up... keep moving forward.
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mcmagic posted:I'm talking about when basically every dem politician on social media is posting hard about how we need to save democracy and how the republicans are fascistic and doing jack poo poo about it. That is the gaslighting. oh, fair enough then Trabisnikof posted:So the next step... now work on more streamlined Voting Rights Bills and use this in '22 and '24 to demonstrate GOP recalcitrance. thankfully biden has a robust GOTV network and definitely didn't burn the very few bridges he had with activism via lies
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Jun 23, 2021 02:55
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so i see an answer was finally found to Manufacturing Consent, and that answer was "it's genocide denial, actually" lmao
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Now, watch as any attempt to primary Manchin next time around nets no support from anyone in the Oval Office.
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Oh Snapple! posted:so i see an answer was finally found to Manufacturing Consent, and that answer was "it's genocide denial, actually" they're grasping at straws so hard it's wild. They clearly just wanted to say 'well he's a bad lefty (unless he's saying vote for Biden then we love him)' and move on but the actual questioning part of a 'debate' just hosed that all up
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mcmagic posted:I'm talking about when basically every dem politician on social media is posting hard about how we need to save democracy and how the republicans are fascistic and doing jack poo poo about it. That is the gaslighting. Republicans are an existential threat to the country but also we need to work with them and look forward, not backward.
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Jun 23, 2021 03:03
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It's not a great look for AOC that the MSNBC lady she endorsed is in 3rd place heh
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mcmagic posted:It's not a great look for AOC that the MSNBC lady she endorsed is in 3rd place heh I care a lot more about her endorsing people that are good than her having a high batting average with endorsements. Only endorsing people who are gonna win anyway is pointless.
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Trabisnikof posted:It's not fair to blame Biden re: For the People Act. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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https://twitter.com/Nikki2U/status/1407515066111606786?s=19 Words don't mean anything anymore
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Jun 23, 2021 03:12
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Thoguh posted:I care a lot more about her endorsing people that are good than her having a high batting average with endorsements. Only endorsing people who are gonna win anyway is pointless. This endorsement kinda sucked. Wiley is pretty poo poo plus it was to late to change the race at all.
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Jun 23, 2021 03:13
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lol didn't he buy a full on house?
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Jun 23, 2021 03:13
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https://web.enrboenyc.us/OF11CY0PY1.html enjoy mayor eric adams NYC
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I've seen enough:
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I've seen enough: *depresses old timey dynamite plunger and explodes myself in a shower of gore and viscera*
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Chaser: https://twitter.com/abigailm1971/status/1407519203809234948?s=19 KHive has crowned Yang Bernie and proceeded directly to the sassy-black-woman-gif portion of their celebration
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Jun 23, 2021 03:16
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lol a loving pig mayor.
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sexpig by night posted:lol didn't he buy a full on house? A complete waste of money given that Eric Adams just didn't bother with this part, doesn't live in NYC, and never has
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mcmagic posted:lol a loving pig mayor. The UK had a pig loving Prime Minister, why can't NYC have a pig mayor? 
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Horseshoe theory posted:The UK had a pig loving Prime Minister, why can't NYC have a pig mayor? I guess I expect NYC to be slightly better than pedo island but that is dumb of me.
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Fame Douglas posted:Don't make me tap the sign on the wall that displays the "Machin cycle"!!! 
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yang was robbed and so were we. of content
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We always talk about sacrificing Florida for the betterment of the union, but if I may, may I nominate New York?
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Smythe posted:I've seen enough: *depresses old timey dynamite plunger and explodes myself in a shower of gore and viscera*
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Pamela Springstein posted:yang was robbed and so were we. of content
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Pamela Springstein posted:yang was robbed and so were we. of content The candidates were all varying degrees of awful so this is the only reason to be disappointed.
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mcmagic posted:I guess I expect NYC to be slightly better than pedo island but that is dumb of me. this mayor's race was loving bonkers, but they coulda stopped Adams if more candidates dropped out and lined up behind Wiley. There was absolutely no coordination and I've seen that gently caress up gettable positions in NYC over and over again.
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