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Tiggum posted:I don't read comics. I'm talking about a TV show. It's a comic book TV show. It's like complaining about people leaping two stories in kungfu/wuxia movies being unrealistic or CSI and other crime dramas being able to process DNA in hours rather than weeks. RandomBlue posted:They've got their own problems, get over it. He won't despite everyone's best efforts.
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gently caress yeah, Clark changed in a phone booth. The only thing that would've made that sequence better would've been a quick hit of the Williams' theme.
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God, Hoechlin is great at being dorky Clark. Edit: The Friday Night Lights at the movie theatre pegs this stuff around 2004 or 2005 which is wild to think about. Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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I cannot stress how much they nailed all that Superman origins stuff. They could've made a whole show out of it.
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That was a Class of 95 yearbook Clark was looking at right?
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I have to say Hoechlin is really surprising me with his portrayal of Clark and Superman. He's *really* good in this episode. I also love that Lois career was separate from, and in spite of Superman at first. Her opening Clarks eyes to systemic oppression is a great beat in their relationship. I also really appreciate the clear call out that she is a *good reporter* and it's not just down to her relationship with Superman.
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Oof, I suspected Edge turned the other Earth's Superman but I hoped it wouldn't happen to this one. Will be interesting to see how they resolve it - presumably it'll take more than just Lois & the boys appealing to their dad to snap out of it. I thought last episode Edge said Lara was the AI hologram in his fortress? All throughout those scenes with the Kents visiting Lana/Kyle/Sarah I was so uneasy, I expected Edge to burst in and expose their secrets immediately. This show is just unpredictable enough to do something like that in its first season. Was good (in a believable way) to see Jordan step up to fight Edge and immediately have his rear end handed to him. Jordan still has the crystal from the pod, right? So he could repair the Fortress or perhaps even build a new one? I'd kinda love for him to build one on the Kent farm, or perhaps under the barn.
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I like that Edge was smart enough to put his fortress of solitude in the desert.  Sloth Life posted:I have to say Hoechlin is really surprising me with his portrayal of Clark and Superman. He's *really* good in this episode. Clark and Lois are so well cast. They are fantastic. Xelkelvos posted:God, Hoechlin is great at being dorky Clark.  e: Looks like the next ep is July 12th. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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Jun 23, 2021 14:39
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HOW DID EDGE KNOW WHERE SUPERMANS FORTRESS WAS!?
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Vietnamwees posted:HOW DID EDGE KNOW WHERE SUPERMANS FORTRESS WAS!? Followed him? At the end of the previous episode, Superman was severely weakened. The humans who'd been turned into Kryptonians all got turned back, but I think Edge was basically fine?
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Tiggum posted:Followed him? At the end of the previous episode, Superman was severely weakened. The humans who'd been turned into Kryptonians all got turned back, but I think Edge was basically fine? I wondered too, but he said that he followed him. Superman's been shown to be able to hear poo poo happening in other countries, so presumably an ability like that would be a good Edge if you're trying to follow someone
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I really liked how they flipped the usual "Lois falls for superman, and grows to like clark" to her falling in love with clark and wasn't that interested in superman. This show is just fantastic. Tiggum posted:Followed him? At the end of the previous episode, Superman was severely weakened. The humans who'd been turned into Kryptonians all got turned back, but I think Edge was basically fine? maybe he tracked the eradicator? Clark had it with him at the end of the episode. badjohny fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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That scene was great. It was really nice to see all the scenes from the pilot expanded. Tyler just kills the young Superman vibe. I hope they don't fall down the CW well into mediocre crap the other shows reign in.
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Rhyno posted:That scene was great. It was really nice to see all the scenes from the pilot expanded. Tyler just kills the young Superman vibe. I hope they don't fall down the CW well into mediocre crap the other shows reign in. Why can't they just use the same "make the show be good" machine they're using here on the rest of shows 
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Maybe my fav episode of the show so far. The first 28 minutes just being a surprise origin story, and being well-done at that, ruled
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XboxPants posted:Why can't they just use the same "make the show be good" machine they're using here on the rest of shows Limited good writers would be my guess.
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Rhyno posted:That scene was great. It was really nice to see all the scenes from the pilot expanded. Tyler just kills the young Superman vibe. I hope they don't fall down the CW well into mediocre crap the other shows reign in. Hoechlin is one of my favourite Arrowverse actors, his take on Superman is probably one of the best I've ever seen since Christopher Reeve, and I hope Sephiroth has a much bigger role in FF7 Remake Part II because the dude killed it in that role too, especially with that whole "batshit stalker ex-boyfriend" vibe Remake/Post-Advent Children Sephiroth has through the whole game.
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I love what he's doing so much I've almost completely stopped calling him Tiny Clark!
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Rhyno posted:I love what he's doing so much I've almost completely stopped calling him Tiny Clark! Again, he is perfectly sized for Superman. It's not his fault that Jimmy Olsen is gigantic in this version.
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They really, really GET Clark Kent. My favorite line in Clark & Lois sums up how I've always felt about him - "Superman is what I do, Clark Kent is who I am". This was that line, stretched out across the episode.
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Narcissus1916 posted:They really, really GET Clark Kent. I've always liked that take better than Kill Bill's "Clark Kent is the mask" one.
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nine-gear crow posted:Again, he is perfectly sized for Superman. It's not his fault that Jimmy Olsen is gigantic in this version. He did look a little silly next to Routh's Superman, admit it. And I need to gush about the Fleischer styled suit again. I like it more than his normal gear.
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Rhyno posted:He did look a little silly next to Routh's Superman, admit it. Okay yeah, Hoechlin vs. Routh looked like Superman beating the poo poo out of his son 
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Sloth Life posted:
I mean, it's pretty much canon in every version that Lois is the better actual journalist than Clark, and one of the most well-known in the world for her work even outside Supes. The reason in the comics that she and Clark can move to the country is because she's writing long form investigative books so she doesn't need to be in Metropolis full time.
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Gaz-L posted:I mean, it's pretty much canon in every version that Lois is the better actual journalist than Clark, and one of the most well-known in the world for her work even outside Supes. The reason in the comics that she and Clark can move to the country is because she's writing long form investigative books so she doesn't need to be in Metropolis full time. One more thing they're knocking out of the park is making Lois really live up to being a title character, she really kicks rear end. Both as a journalist, but also just as a fearless beast of a woman. I loved seeing her run up to Atom Man and gently caress him up with a tazer to the face.
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I definitely like Superman/Clark having more of an everyman look. You don't need to be a gigantic musclebound perfect-featured Adonis to be heroic, or a good person in general, and I think Hoechlin looking more like just A Guy helps. That, and it's a little more believable that people would look this Clark Kent in the eye and not immediately realise he's Superman. :V
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Flesnolk posted:I definitely like Superman/Clark having more of an everyman look. You don't need to be a gigantic musclebound perfect-featured Adonis to be heroic, or a good person in general, and I think Hoechlin looking more like just A Guy helps. Yeah, just someone who can look incredibly dorky and yet also has a jawline that could sink a battleship if he slammed into one, and Hoechlin pulls off both in spades. Superman can look like anything and be anybody... as long as they have a strong jaw line. That poo poo is a dealbreaker.
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When teen Edge and his dad showed up, it was like they took Anakin and Palpatine and shoved them in a pressure cooker with Draco and Voldemort. It was so on the nose as far as villains and proteges go. But I didn't want the origin story to end. Everything was so good up before Clark started to realize what was happening.
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Yeah that first half was super engaging.
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Before this last episode of Superman and Lois aired, I was expecting more secret half-siblings to appear, or for Morgan Edge's female superpowered subordinate to be revealed as a brain-wiped Lori Lemaris. Clark Kent has the Fortress of Solitude. Morgan Edge has the Fortress of Discipline. Only area where the show seems to be cheaping out on is the Fortresses, the Fortress of Solitude shown for 35 seconds in the Elseworlds tv-series crossever seemed vmuch bigger/more impressive.
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I would absolutely be down for more flashbacks of early Superman, that stuff was really fun. Does everyone think Edge is actually a Kryptonian or are you expecting a twist? It fits the themes of the show for him to be Supes' half-brother, but that just seems like a huge thing to have to deal with forever.
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He's probably going to be a human implanted by the Eradicator as a child.
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PantsOptional posted:I honestly thought he would turn out to be Zod before I remembered Zod already happened. Edge already happened, they can just claim Crisis changed things if they want.
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Spacebump posted:Edge already happened, they can just claim Crisis changed things if they want. That was on Supergirl's Earth, they never have to acknowledge it.
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DoctorWhat posted:https://twitter.com/NadriaTucker/status/1408072305960374276?s=19 Fuuuck, this all sucks so much, I didn't know about this: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nadria-tucker-cw-superman-and-lois-hollywood-toxicity_n_603d5eb8c5b6ff75ac3ea433 It's funny, I remember all the things she talks about that she fought against as being sorta borderline issues that I would notice, but I'd consider it, and think, "no, I think this is ok." Like, is this show TOO white? Hmm, I think it's ok, Kyle's very noticeably hispanic and Sarah's mixed and having an interracial relationship with Jon which is just played as normal, there are other PoC characters who aren't villains, you could even say the way they've portrayed Kal's background as an undocumented immigrant has been pretty positive. Nazis and racists are shown as villains, as in this episode with the metal mask guy. So it's like, "nah, it may be feel really heavily whitebread, but I don't think this show is racist" Or like, I remember watching specific scenes with Lois and Lana talking about Morgan Edge, or with Lois and her boss Chrissy talking about Morgan Edge, and thinking, "does any of this show pass Bechdel?" Technically they were talking about a man, but... it didn't feel like they were just backup characters in a man's story, but rather, that Lois' investigation was a story of its own. Lois as a character could stand on her own. Same with Lana. But it makes sense to me that these things were all borderline enough that they easily could have been toxic and lovely if we didn't have someone like Tucker pushing to make it better. Part of what makes this show so great is that they heavily lean into the feel-good, old timey american way stuff, but without the old-timey american racism and sexism and I don't want to see the show slip into that direction.
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Rhyno posted:That was on Supergirl's Earth, they never have to acknowledge it. This Superman is also from there originally. If they want to use any traditional Superman characters Supergirl used before the end of Crisis, they might as well. That was the point I was getting at. Just because Zod has been on Supergirl doesn't mean they can't try again. Though tbh, I'd be ok with them not using Zod. Zod feels overused as a live action Superman villain.
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