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There are enough mods for Factorio now and it's strict enough about them that you would really think they'd let you create your own mod loadouts to swap between with one click at this point. e: vv Yeah I guess that's fair. MonkeyforaHead fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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MonkeyforaHead posted:There are enough mods for Factorio now and it's strict enough about them that you would really think they'd let you create your own mod loadouts to swap between with one click at this point. You start a map with the mods you want for that map and save the game. When you are selecting a save game to launch there is a box somewhere to click to 'sync mods to save game' (or something like that) and it will automatically load the mods for that save game, which allows you to easily switch between different games with the mods from that specific save loaded.
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Jun 22, 2021 08:14
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LonsomeSon posted:whiny I think the idea that we should be forbidden from discussing aspects of what happened for fear of implying that someone may have misjudged something is dumb, frankly. There were a bunch of insightful responses to the post and besides you freaking out about it, it doesn't seem like anything else bad happened.
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Jun 22, 2021 08:28
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None of the chuds writing glowing Steam reviews needed any negative reviews to actually exist in order to angrily "react" to them
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Jun 22, 2021 08:30
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Is playing Factorio despite the dev being a shitbag any different than promoting Uncle Bob's material despite Uncle Bob being a shitbag?
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Jun 22, 2021 19:23
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Yes? One is promoting views of a weird programming dude on the internet The other is playing a game made by a team of people that doesn't espouse any views.
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Jun 22, 2021 19:27
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Reik posted:Is playing Factorio despite the dev being a shitbag any different than promoting Uncle Bob's material despite Uncle Bob being a shitbag?
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Jun 22, 2021 19:27
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Reik posted:Is playing Factorio despite the dev being a shitbag any different than promoting Uncle Bob's material despite Uncle Bob being a shitbag? I'd say so. Playing it isn't inherently promoting it, and the game is more than Kovarex's ideas. Definitely going to be a lot less people recommending it, though. At least we have Satisfactory and DSP to fill that hole.
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Jun 22, 2021 19:27
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M_Gargantua posted:Yes? I mean, the official Factorio twitter account is espousing the views. Anyone that still works there after that must be okay with it.
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Jun 22, 2021 19:29
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The only person affected by your decision of whether to play a game you already own is yourself. If it makes you happy, there's no reason this guy being a shithead should deprive you of that. I wouldn't recommend anyone buys the game and if you want to avoid playing it because of this then by all means, but it's a personal decision and affects nothing else.
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Jun 22, 2021 19:34
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Reik posted:I mean, the official Factorio twitter account is espousing the views. Anyone that still works there after that must be okay with it. Is it espousing them beyond linking to the FFF blog? Also, part of the issue some people took (that kinda caused the thing to blow up) was not qualifying the promotion of Uncle Bob with the fact they were problematic. A lot of people are probably going to qualify playing Factorio with "one of the devs kinda sucks though."
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Jun 22, 2021 19:40
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Oxyclean posted:Is it espousing them beyond linking to the FFF blog? This is what I was referring to. https://twitter.com/factoriogame/status/1406038185424134144?s=20 That makes sense though, just make sure if you think your actions may lead someone to buy the game that you give them a heads up one of the lead developers sucks.
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Jun 22, 2021 19:45
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I find that difficult to categorise as "oh it's just one of the developers" yes.
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Jun 22, 2021 19:48
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Reik posted:This is what I was referring to. That's pretty disappointing. Figured they'd be smarter then to do that on an official account.
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Jun 22, 2021 19:55
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Reik posted:Is playing Factorio despite the dev being a shitbag any different than promoting Uncle Bob's material despite Uncle Bob being a shitbag? does posting on a forum founded by a wife beater make any difference
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Jun 23, 2021 00:44
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come on guys. ethical consumption, capitalism, yadayada
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Jun 23, 2021 10:18
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Truga posted:come on guys. ethical consumption, capitalism, yadayada
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I doubt Wube have a dedicated social media person. Their Twitter is probably like 85% kovarex posts
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What do you do when you lapse off the game, and come back to it, do you start a new base or re-understand what you did on your save game?
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Jun 23, 2021 12:07
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Study your old base, then make a new better one!
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Jun 23, 2021 12:25
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Make exactly the same base and lapse off the game again.
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Seyser Koze posted:Make exactly the same base and lapse off the game again. I'm in this picture and I don't like it
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Jun 23, 2021 13:28
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I never leave a base in a way I'm interested in doing any more to it so it's a foregone conclusion it's new base time when I come back.
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Groshlak posted:What do you do when you lapse off the game, and come back to it, do you start a new base or re-understand what you did on your save game? I almost always start a new base, which is why I never actually finish a megabase idea.
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Groshlak posted:What do you do when you lapse off the game, and come back to it, do you start a new base or re-understand what you did on your save game? My only successful run to the rocket so far has involved building a base, taking 3 months off, coming back to it and saying "what the gently caress" and fixing it. Otherwise it's a new save every time.
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Groshlak posted:What do you do when you lapse off the game, and come back to it, do you start a new base or re-understand what you did on your save game? Right now I’m taking a break from designing and planning my 2,700SPM base. I have all but smelting designed, which will be the next thing I do when I come back from this break. Then it’s laying it all out, as I will only be using trains to bring in raw materials and belts for 100% of the rest. The layout is probably going to take as much work as designing all the separate pieces has.
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Groshlak posted:What do you do when you lapse off the game, and come back to it, do you start a new base or re-understand what you did on your save game? In the past I would always start a new base because the game was constantly changing, but now that it's settled down I'd probably just keep playing the same base
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I know some goons play Satisfactory here. What's it like? How is it in relation to Factorio? How does it stand on its own? What does it have that Factorio doesn't? Asking for a friend.
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NachtSieger posted:I know some goons play Satisfactory here. What's it like? How is it in relation to Factorio? How does it stand on its own? What does it have that Factorio doesn't? In basic gameplay, Satisfactory has much more of an exploration focus than Factorio, in that exploring the world is both expected and fun in its own right. The first person 3D perspective allows for some really beautiful environments and it feels good to exist in its world. However, that same perspective can make it fiddly to build your factory buildings, and there isn't yet any kind of copy/paste or blueprint system. The devs have said they're working on new build modes for the next release but we don't know any details on what that will be or how it might help yet. On a logistical level, Satisfactory pushes much harder against having a bus system for your factories - you can't have anywhere near as many goods on a belt at a time (the current top-tier endgame belt carries as many items as the basic transport belt in Factorio) and a given building can only ever be supplied by a single belt input. This means you're encouraged to be shipping worked goods rather than raw materials, so your logistics web will probably be more complex. In addition to this, Satisfactory has a big concept of alternate recipes; as you explore the world you'll find hard drives that unlock alternative ways of producing more or less anything. These are usually tradeoffs, like being more resource-efficient but requiring more intermediary production (such as making screws from steel instead of iron). Once you've got a lot of them and are working on high-level products you can do a lot of configuration to design your production lines around the local resources to cut down on having to transport raw ores. I personally am a big fan of it for all those logistics-design reasons, but there are also quite a few people frustrated with the raw building mechanics. It's still in early access, so hopefully they can still address that.
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I'm not the biggest playtime holder here (~40 in Satisfactory, ~20 in Factorio) but they're pretty different games. You have to be OK with quite tediously building everything by hand in Satisfactory but that also contributes to its immersiveness, which is not something I'd consider interesting or important in this type of game before playing Satisfactory, but it's what made me love the game. Factorio can be much faster game that feels less tedious even with bigger builds but it doesn't really have an interesting world to explore besides that. Now, in Satisfactory the world could be a lot better so it's not a masterstroke just yet, but it's at least a direction they want to push more in the future. It could almost be a survival game except it doesn't have almost any survival stuff in it except for a few dangerous creatures here and there.
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Yeah, I like Satisfactory, but the building really doesn't scale well for large bases. In Factorio, you can probably slam down a 1 pump/20 burners/generators coal plant in a minute or two, even without robots. In Satisfactory can easily spend half an hour for something similiar because you need to individually hook up every splitter/belt input/water input/power connection to each building with each of those steps requiring aiming and at least two clicks.
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I'm going through my Krastorio 2 run and though I'm just entering plastics, I want to recommend this mod. It really switches up the game, and adds a bit of complexity while not adding the intense bullshit of the Bob/Angel stuff.
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Krastorio 2 is probably one of the best intros to overhaul mods, it’s got just the right amount of new stuff early and mid game and then expands into completely new territory in the end game.
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Question for successful "Megabase" builders. Do you have a 'layout' or general design in mind when you start, or are you generally setting a more generic goal of 'X SPM' and then design on the fly for that goal for each type of science?
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The Locator posted:Question for successful "Megabase" builders. Do you have a 'layout' or general design in mind when you start, or are you generally setting a more generic goal of 'X SPM' and then design on the fly for that goal for each type of science? I've done >1k spm and while I designed all the stations/modules on the fly, I sketched up the overall layout first - i.e., how many stations and what their inputs/outputs are, what's being train'd around vs built on-site. For example, the blue science station takes iron plates, steel, red chips, and sulfur as train inputs, and outputs blue science, meaning gears, pipes, and engines are made within that station. But exactly how that was laid out, and where, I didn't decide until I actually built it.
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Tamba posted:Yeah, I like Satisfactory, but the building really doesn't scale well for large bases. Definitely get the Smart mod for Satisfactory. It lets you place multiple buildings at once and can even auto connect mergers/splitters to buildings. https://ficsit.app/mod/5yGWmmB8KL2Zq8
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DontMockMySmock posted:I've done >1k spm and while I designed all the stations/modules on the fly, I sketched up the overall layout first - i.e., how many stations and what their inputs/outputs are, what's being train'd around vs built on-site. For example, the blue science station takes iron plates, steel, red chips, and sulfur as train inputs, and outputs blue science, meaning gears, pipes, and engines are made within that station. But exactly how that was laid out, and where, I didn't decide until I actually built it.
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darthbob88 posted:This is the part that's got me dithering on my own megabase plans. I want to build something like the Ant Farm here, but as a working factory rather than a finely-crafted system for converting resources into rocket launches. This means I'll need a hub manufacturing belts, inserters, miners, assemblers, etc. The multiple inputs would be easy enough, with either multiple stations or filter inserters for unloading a mixed-cargo car, but dealing with multiple outputs is bothering me. Either I have a lot of/very large stations for loading building trains, I split the hub up so each cell only handles and outputs 1-3 things, or I just give up and just dump that stuff into chests for me/bots to use in construction. I'm already planning to go hard on construction bots, so that last one is probably the simplest option. I'm working on building my new hub/mall area in order to build all the stuff to make the actual science modules now, and I'm going with training in all the raw materials and smelting/refining everything needed for the hub on-site, rather than doing a big refinery area / smelting area / etc. to supply the entire base. I'm also including another module build, even though my current one is probably enough, I may change my mind on that but it's like 7-8 minutes one-way from my current stuff to the new location so I'm not sure I want to keep the current location running for modules as I would need to occasionally run back up there to re-source raw materials as patches run out. I think the nuclear plants should be fine, as even if the current ore patch runs completely dry, I'll probably have enough fuel to run those plants for years of real time.
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I'm having a bit of an issue with a new play through and getting a LTN provider stop to work correctly. I'm using the blueprints that were posted earlier in the thread and they work, except that the inserters won't load the train. I've got them wired together on the red wire, green wire is connecting the warehouses from K2. I can see that everything should be working, but when the train arrives from the depot it just sits there. I've tried a couple of other provider blueprints and I get the same result so I'm almost positive that I screwed something up when I wired it for warehouses and regular fast inserters versus the stack ones that I had in the blueprint. Any place I should look to see where I messed up?  Here's a shot of the provider showing the wiring in place. diremonk fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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diremonk posted:I'm having a bit of an issue with a new play through and getting a LTN provider stop to work correctly. I'm using the blueprints that were posted earlier in the thread and they work, except that the inserters won't load the train. I've got them wired together on the red wire, green wire is connecting the warehouses from K2. I can see that everything should be working, but when the train arrives from the depot it just sits there. can you show us the settings of the inserters and the signals on the wire (hover over a power pole)?
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