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I don't know much about the 7 series but I've always thought of it as the laggard in its segment and not particularly desirable; is the B7 an improvement? That thing does look pretty fuckin sweet.
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rscott posted:https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/avon-2012-bmw-alpina-b7-lwb/7339408672.html Didn’t Hoovie have one of these? And it was basically importable to repair or get parts for so it was literally junk?
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Jun 22, 2021 22:01
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Ownership issues was gonna be my next q, I didn't figure many of the maintenance parts would be different from a 7 series
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Jun 22, 2021 22:23
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I've been doing a little reading and it seems that the N55 in the OG M2 might actually be better from a reliability standpoint than the S55 in the M2C? Other than the 'standard' issues (water pump, gasket leaks etc.) the N55 seems to like blowing up charge pipes which is annoying but not terrible, while the S55 seems to suffer hidden intercooler coolant leaks and crank hub failures because shaft keys are expensive I guess. I guess the N55 having been around for ages has allowed some time for the larger issues to get designed out over time. Also seems like the M2 could be one of the last cars with the DCT transmission (which from what I can tell is quite reliable compared to the VW DSG's) and the new M3/M4's are fugly.
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Jun 22, 2021 22:44
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The DCT in these cars owns, and it's hilarious the new one is an autotragic.
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Jun 22, 2021 22:59
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Ultimate Mango posted:Didn’t Hoovie have one of these? And it was basically importable to repair or get parts for so it was literally junk? KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Ownership issues was gonna be my next q, I didn't figure many of the maintenance parts would be different from a 7 series Here's the final video of his saga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4qewQkYTTs
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Jun 22, 2021 23:16
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Blackhawk posted:I've been doing a little reading and it seems that the N55 in the OG M2 might actually be better from a reliability standpoint than the S55 in the M2C? Other than the 'standard' issues (water pump, gasket leaks etc.) the N55 seems to like blowing up charge pipes which is annoying but not terrible, while the S55 seems to suffer hidden intercooler coolant leaks and crank hub failures because shaft keys are expensive I guess. I guess the N55 having been around for ages has allowed some time for the larger issues to get designed out over time. Also seems like the M2 could be one of the last cars with the DCT transmission (which from what I can tell is quite reliable compared to the VW DSG's) and the new M3/M4's are fugly. I mean, no? The S55 can blow up charge and J pipes, just do them preventatively if you feel like it, but if you're completely stock and not tuning, its not a thing, certainly not at mileages that any of the Comps would be at right now. Same thing for the crank hub issue, its not a problem till you're over 600HP and at that point you need to be investing in stuff to protect the engine anyway, there are kits to captivate the bolt. First I've personally hard of intercoolers leaking. Yes the N55 in the M2 has had most of the kinks worked out but not enough to warrant getting it from a reliability standpoint over the S55, the N55 was BAD when it first came out. Crunchy Black fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Jun 22, 2021 23:35
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So there is a very small chip in my windshield that you can’t even see from the driver seat perspective, but I want to get things in perfect shape so out of curiosity I called local BMW dealer for rough estimate to replace windshield with OEM glass and do it proper and they said $3200-$3500. Not quite what I was expecting and now I am not sure how I want to proceed, part of me worries about at some point years from now if I do want to fully fix it the glass won’t be available, but on the other hand they made so many of those cars that the windshields have to be around basically forever right and so just ignore it for now?
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Jun 22, 2021 23:43
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What car? I am in Norcal but I had my 2016 535 with Heads Up Display windshield replaced back in December with a BMW OEM one (the installer ordered and picked it up at BMW) and it was like $850 plus $300 to install. Look for a recommended auto glass shop and call them and leave BMW out of it except to get them the OEM windshield.
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Jun 22, 2021 23:49
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:Look up the videos on Youtube of Hoovie's Garage and his adventures with his Alpina 7. He ended up selling it to a salvage yard.
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Keyser_Soze posted:What car? 2011 328i wagon with I *think* every option except the appearance from the m-sport package I am also in norcal, I just called steven's creek BMW as that was closest to me, he did make mention of a sensor or camera of some sort which there does appear to be infront of the rear view mirror. You mind sharing what shop you went to?
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Jun 23, 2021 00:00
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TheBacon posted:So there is a very small chip in my windshield that you can’t even see from the driver seat perspective, but I want to get things in perfect shape so out of curiosity I called local BMW dealer for rough estimate to replace windshield with OEM glass and do it proper and they said $3200-$3500. Not quite what I was expecting and now I am not sure how I want to proceed, part of me worries about at some point years from now if I do want to fully fix it the glass won’t be available, but on the other hand they made so many of those cars that the windshields have to be around basically forever right and so just ignore it for now? Windshield chips can be repaired, without windshield replacement. And it’s recommended because eventually it will most likely crack. Have someone look at it.
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TheBacon posted:2011 328i wagon with I *think* every option except the appearance from the m-sport package Isn't that sensor just the rain sensor, lol. I don't remember ever getting fleeced by SC BMW but it's been over 10 years since I stepped foot in there. I'm way out in the roasting outback of Roseville now (was in Sunnyvale before), so probably not helpful - but I used this place that was recommended to me (https://www.yelp.com/biz/brutons-glass-co-citrus-heights) I would just check on Yelp for Santa Clara/Sunnyvale etc and call some... https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Auto%20Window%20Repair&find_loc=Santa%20Clara%2C%20CA Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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Jun 23, 2021 00:11
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Thanks, I started with dealer just because sort of paranoid about OEM stuff considering the last time I had to get glass I went to a well recommended cheap place and it was definitely some random poo poo, which was fine for my GTI, but I'd like to keep this as nice as possible type of thing and do things 'right' even if a bit more expense
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Jun 23, 2021 00:34
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Crunchy Black posted:I mean, no? Yeah it's hard to sift out the actual probability of failure from internet stuff because if you have an issue you're exponentially more likely to post about it than if you don't. This is where I saw the intercooler thing btw: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1570544
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Blackhawk posted:Yeah it's hard to sift out the actual probability of failure from internet stuff because if you have an issue you're exponentially more likely to post about it than if you don't. This is where I saw the intercooler thing btw: Fair, noted, and it seems like there are dealership techs corroborating, too. Seems like a vanishingly small failure rate more likely associated with a failed intercooler than something endemic like the N55 eating forced induction parts was though, imo.
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Jun 23, 2021 02:01
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I've posted in this very thread about my charge cooler failing. There are a ton of aftermarket replacements that cost as little as $500 for the alibaba version that a ton of vendors rebrand. It's probably fine, no way in hell I was putting it on my car. I would never take an N55 car over something with an S55 if I were choosing between the two. Never.
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The Alpina post got me bored and looking at car porn on Autotrader. Goddamn. 9,173 miles.      This thing got loved to death, huh?   Wait a minute, automatic transmission? That can't be right, who would b-  Noooooooooo
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Who would buy an 8 series with a manual? Being lazy highway cruisers is the entire point. Besides, Alpinas have always been more luxury focused than the base car they're built on. KillHour fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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Jun 23, 2021 06:53
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fknlo posted:I've posted in this very thread about my charge cooler failing. There are a ton of aftermarket replacements that cost as little as $500 for the alibaba version that a ton of vendors rebrand. It's probably fine, no way in hell I was putting it on my car. Why's that? Genuinely asking as I'm pretty clueless. I get that the S55 is more track focused and includes more special bits to make it more capable of that but are there other reasons?
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Blackhawk posted:Why's that? Genuinely asking as I'm pretty clueless. I get that the S55 is more track focused and includes more special bits to make it more capable of that but are there other reasons? You're way overthinking this if you're trying to be a layman about it. With incredibly rare exception, if you're buying a BMW to be a 'driving machine,' you want a car with a S-designation motor. Period. Doesn't need to be harder than that. If you're having to think about it, unless you have money to light on fire, don't buy a M car. KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:
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Jun 23, 2021 08:12
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Eh having money to burn and wanting to burn money are different things I think. Also I'm an engineer and like to nerd out about technical details for this kind of thing.
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KillHour posted:Who would buy an 8 series with a manual? Being lazy highway cruisers is the entire point.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:If you're on the highway then you're leaving it in 5th or 6th anyway and there's no difference? Look at this guy who has never driven in LA traffic.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:
The Alpina version of the Z8 removed the E39 M5 drivetrain and replaced with with an X5 V8 and automatic transmission
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KillHour posted:Look at this guy who has never driven in LA traffic.
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Keyser_Soze posted:What car? This is a relief to hear. That's far more affordable than I'd expected. I need an e60 windshield installed with rain, lane and HUD, it's a bit of a unicorn as far as glass goes. I've been dreading even asking how much that would cost. Thankfully, I have other repairs in the interim, so it hasn't come up, yet. And, no, I didn't have glass coverage.
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Don't forget to check with your insurance. Your insurance will often allow you to get a chip fixed for free with no deductible and without a hit to your rates.
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Blackhawk posted:I've been doing a little reading and it seems that the N55 in the OG M2 might actually be better from a reliability standpoint than the S55 in the M2C? Other than the 'standard' issues (water pump, gasket leaks etc.) the N55 seems to like blowing up charge pipes which is annoying but not terrible, while the S55 seems to suffer hidden intercooler coolant leaks and crank hub failures because shaft keys are expensive I guess. I guess the N55 having been around for ages has allowed some time for the larger issues to get designed out over time. Also seems like the M2 could be one of the last cars with the DCT transmission (which from what I can tell is quite reliable compared to the VW DSG's) and the new M3/M4's are fugly. I would say with confidence that any S code engine is far better than an N code counterpart. When I sold my then-20 year old E36 M3 with 180K miles or whatever I can happily say the engine never left a single drip on my garage floor. The S code engines always seem to have that "One (or two) Stupid Thing(s)" that are pretty easily remedied (rod bearings, crank hub, VANOS unit) and then they will happily chooch along. DCTs are awesome. BMW does a good job, Porsche does it better but considering I am driving a DCT that is ~14 years old at this point it works incredibly well and they have held up over the years too.
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glyph posted:This is a relief to hear. That's far more affordable than I'd expected. I just looked up the invoice and it was actually $965 for the BMW OEM Pilkington glass in Dec 2020, YMMV.
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KillHour posted:Who would buy an 8 series with a manual? Being lazy highway cruisers is the entire point.
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But now it's the future and we have 8 and 10 speed automatics that shift nearly as fast as DCTs but aren't terrifyingly expensive.
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11k-Mile 2012 BMW Frozen Silver Edition M3 Coupe https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-bmw-m3-39/ Just went for $75k...
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That guy bought the right car. I can't wait to park one of those next to my E46 one of these days. V8 car gets me hard.
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They are indeed a lot of fun. About to hit 34k, sort of getting the itch to get the titanium M Performance exhaust that's on the Lime Rock edition...
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I like the g8x m3 but goddamn I would double my money for a touring.
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Jun 24, 2021 07:48
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Crunchy Black posted:I like the g8x m3 but goddamn I would double my money for a touring. Someone is going to make so much money in 25 years when they're able to sell their European one on BaT.
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If humanity exists in 25 years, petrol is still widely available/not illegal, international transport of large commodities is still reasonable, the internet is still viable, and US import laws haven't changed...sure.
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You.... Should take some vacation, sir Hadlock fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Jun 24, 2021 |
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1980, as seen from 1960: moon bases 2000, as seen from 1980: flying cars 2020, as seen from 2000: smartphones 2040, as seen from 2020: hunter-gathering
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