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actionjackson posted:found the twin cities record, I remember this (sort of). I definitely remember the 81 dewpoint in 2005. 2005 was a really really bad summer for the entire Midwest.
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actionjackson posted:I looked up a dew point chart, 104 air temp + 70 dew point is 113 heat index, and I would imagine a 70+ dew point is not an issue for Florida Florida has fairly temperate weather compared to most other states, both winters and summers. For example the city of Tampa has never hit 100 degrees on the official record, and anything above 95 degrees is rare.
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1stGear posted:How much of that agriculture is for almonds and wine grapes Wine is less bad than you might think. When it’s dry, it tricks grape vines into focusing on growing the grapes themselves, rather than growing the plant. Still though, there’s a lot of vineyards. As for almonds, CA is projected to grow 3.2 billion pounds of almonds this year. According to nuts.com, a pound of almonds = 400 almonds. Each almond requires 1.1 gallons of water. So, 3.2 billion * 400 * 1.1 = 1.408 trillion gallons of water. lol we’re all gonna die
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PostNouveau posted:I still remember a maddening argument in D&D like a decade ago where there's this enormous freshwater aquifer in the middle of the country and an oil spill above it could ruin it all and some oil industry dude was arguing it's totally fine to build more pipelines over it and everyone who opposes it is an idiot who doesn't understand the energy sector. that sounds like d&d ca. 2021 as well
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Shear Modulus posted:west coast best coast THE BIG ONE: Heard you liked the West Coast so I made a bunch more of it for you.
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Bob Socko posted:Wine is less bad than you might think. When it’s dry, it tricks grape vines into focusing on growing the grapes themselves, rather than growing the plant. Still though, there’s a lot of vineyards. Irrigating alfalfa fields iirc is actually the largest agricultural use of water in California, but it's not like almonds are better. They both suck.
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HelloSailorSign posted:Irrigating alfalfa fields iirc is actually the largest agricultural use of water in California, but it's not like almonds are better. They both suck. I assume its for animal feed because I'm the only person I know who puts sprouts on a sandwich
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lol the track & field finals for olympic trials are in Eugene, OR on Sunday. I bet racing a 5k in 110F feels fuckin great.
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HelloSailorSign posted:Irrigating alfalfa fields iirc is actually the largest agricultural use of water in California, but it's not like almonds are better. They both suck. like this is literally a flooded rice field near redding ca area from a week or two back that's growing rice to be exported  the canal carryings all the waters around are all just dirt trenches because it's cheaper and easier than lining the surface with concrete, and it will naturally let the water seep into the surrounding crop area it was almost 100f out at the time when i took that pic and it's going to be 110+ there in the next few days lol so what do you mean we are in a drought??
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coke posted:they actually grow rice too Lmao rice doesn’t even need to be flooded. They just do it to keep away weeds and pests. So it’s an extra layer of stupid
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:lol the track & field finals for olympic trials are in Eugene, OR on Sunday. I bet racing a 5k in 110F feels fuckin great. See, this is why I don’t run. Too dangerous.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Lmao rice doesn’t even need to be flooded. They just do it to keep away weeds and pests. So it’s an extra layer of stupid i mean, all things being equal, is that better or worse than relying on herbicides & pesticides?
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Lmao rice doesn’t even need to be flooded. They just do it to keep away weeds and pests. So it’s an extra layer of stupid right, agriculture in california uses extremely water-intensive methods because big landowners have absurd grandfathered water rights from hundreds of years ago that let them pull as much water as they want for practically free so it's cheaper than trying to conserve water meanwhile normal people are asked to save water by flushing toilets less and taking shorter showers Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 00:33 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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lol here in KC we're going to get our yearly 25 year storm tonight with 3-5 inches of rain. not sure why it's called a 25 year storm since they happen more than once a year now but hey I don't make the rules, I just go outside and shut my house off from the sewer system because when we get more than 3 inches of rain the storm sewer system can't handle it and all that water goes into the city septic sewer system. I hear that's not supposed to happen but again, I don't make the rules.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Lmao rice doesn’t even need to be flooded. They just do it to keep away weeds and pests. So it’s an extra layer of stupid they still use both though  it's more like the farmers with all the power and money were able to bribe the policy makers to make absurd claim on the need for water conservation (for everyone else) ironically one of the academic person i was talking to mentioned how he had a chat with some israeli regarding the issue and the problem with california is "water is too cheap" especially for the large users no one is going to waste water to grow crop in the desert when the water is as expensive as the residential pricing
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Shear Modulus posted:right, agriculture in california uses extremely water-intensive methods because big landowners have absurd grandfathered water rights from hundreds of years ago that let them pull as much water as they want for practically free so it's cheaper than trying to conserve water I don’t know if it’s the case in California but I know the way some states’ water rights are set up you can actually lose your rights if you start significantly conserving water so there’s an incentive to not fix up your system too much Laterite posted:i mean, all things being equal, is that better or worse than relying on herbicides & pesticides? Fair enough it’s just funny cause it’s so unnecessary
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coke posted:they still use both though water is definitely too cheap, same as how it's too cheap to pollute
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did some quick calculation assuming farmer pays $200~500 per acre foot of water the residential customers pays around $6/cubic feet (ebmud 2020 rate), after conversion to acre foot of water is... $2614 per acre foot so yeah imagine if your residential water is 1/5 to 1/13 the price you are currently paying oh and some places farmers pay even less for their water https://aquaoso.com/blog/california-agricultural-water-prices/  so what do you mean we are in a drought???
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I don’t know if it’s the case in California but I know the way some states’ water rights are set up you can actually lose your rights if you start significantly conserving water so there’s an incentive to not fix up your system too much California actually has a problem that farmers continually report using their maximum water allocation so as to not lose any of it regardless of how much they've actually used. Half of the irrigation districts don't even bother to report and it's all done on paper. The reporting was instituted in 2007. The lightest possible rationing was instituted earlier this year and the farmers, who don't even know how much they use, are already crying rivers. So anyway it's all completely hosed.
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Complications posted:California actually has a problem that farmers continually report using their maximum water allocation so as to not lose any of it regardless of how much they've actually used. Half of the irrigation districts don't even bother to report and it's all done on paper. The reporting was instituted in 2007. The lightest possible rationing was instituted earlier this year and the farmers, who don't even know how much they use, are already crying rivers. quote:Scheuring said the "unreasonable" designation "doesn't sit comfortably" with farmers who irrigate fields to grow crops and feed communities. *market them as special mars grown almonds and sells them at extreme profit* "im growing all these things to feed the community!!" *dies*
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END THE NEWSOM-CREATED DUST BOWL
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also the 'farm' land is pretty much as barren as mars due to the pesticide and herbicide they use, like it's literally just dirt with nothing else when you walk though them they usually call this 'substrate' because there's nothing else in the soil, not even earth worms when you dig down like 3~5 feet so essentially you are eating lovely crops that's grown with the fertilizer with excessive water, intense sun and nothing else
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coke posted:did some quick calculation you’re off on that by a couple orders of magnitude too because an acre foot is 44,000 cubic feet ... but also when I click through that $6 rate is per 100 cubic feet so I think it works out and we’re just transposing units incorrectly
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol here in KC we're going to get our yearly 25 year storm tonight with 3-5 inches of rain. It's a misnomer. A "hundred year" storm really one in a hundred, which is just the reciprocal of a 1% chance of happening any given year. So yes, you can have multiple 1% events happen in sequential years or even in the same year, especially with a non-stationary climate!
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Gunshow Poophole posted:you’re off on that by a couple orders of magnitude too because an acre foot is 44,000 cubic feet i think you are right, i just converted them all to gallons actually
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Shear Modulus posted:everything i've read in the business press lately has been that finance and politics people have come around to the idea that now that biden is president global warming will be addressed and that it mostly involves phasing out gasoline cars for electric cars and the transition to a non-carbon-intensive economy will mostly be finished in maybe 10 or 20 years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_gvvj56rzw TLDR: lol. lmao.
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SirPablo posted:It's a misnomer. A "hundred year" storm really one in a hundred, which is just the reciprocal of a 1% chance of happening any given year. So yes, you can have multiple 1% events happen in sequential years or even in the same year, especially with a non-stationary climate! right that makes sense but like a 3-5" rain is a lot more likely than 4% here I mean maybe over the last century and a half it's accurate but they should probably readjust some poo poo
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spacemang_spliff posted:right that makes sense but like a 3-5" rain is a lot more likely than 4% here https://hdsc.nws.noaa.gov/hdsc/pfds/pfds_map_cont.html
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the bitcoin of weed posted:I don't think I've ever been anywhere it was 113 and I lived in Florida for 25 years lmao It was 113 in the arctic circle last summer
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PostNouveau posted:I still remember a maddening argument in D&D like a decade ago where there's this enormous freshwater aquifer in the middle of the country and an oil spill above it could ruin it all and some oil industry dude was arguing it's totally fine to build more pipelines over it and everyone who opposes it is an idiot who doesn't understand the energy sector. I bet it was from some account with a dozen years and like 100 total posts wasn't it
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Milo and POTUS posted:It was 113 in the arctic circle last summer Also 118 in the Arctic circle this summer. Right now.
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Milo and POTUS posted:I bet it was from some account with a dozen years and like 100 total posts wasn't it Nah it was one of those fuckers well known for digging in and never stopping posting until everyone else was too exhausted to argue anymore. IIRC this was in the Dark Times between LF and CSPAM where you had to go post in D&D if you wanted to post about politics
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The Arctic is merely trying out the contrast hot/cold showers trend to maximize its glamour muscle growth and recovery. the sauna like heat is natural and not human induced. the Arctic wants to look lean and ice free for the cruise lines and yachts that will start going to the North Pole in summer for Endless Summer events
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The Oldest Man posted:Also 118 in the Arctic circle this summer. Right now. https://www.livescience.com/arctic-circle-siberia-hot-day-2021.html quote:On the summer solstice (June 20 — the longest day of the year) two European Union satellites recorded a scorching temperature of 118 degrees Fahrenheit (48 degrees Celsius ) on the ground in Arctic Siberia. 
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Milo and POTUS posted:Awesome that you can live in two disttinct parts of our brave new country, the one with way too little water and the one with too much water Capitalism has always been about gross disparities in distribution of resources
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POV: you are an almond farmer and one of your almonds has a gun
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