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Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

educated = moral citizens

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Some Guy TT posted:



I downloaded this image back in 2016. People are STILL sneering, "how you gonna pay for it, huh? How you gonna pay for it?" and then declaring, "socialists want everything for free." So... yeah. Feel free to swipe this any time you're stuck having to explain how affordable "socialism" really is.

This is a perfect encapsulation of Democratic politics.


Better things are possible, but we ain't doin' it.

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007


Aside from the COVID vaccine, Mississippi has the highest rate of child vaccinations in the country, West Virginia is similarly high. This is the only good statistic I know about my home state.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rate-heres-why/

quote:

But there is one notable exception to these dour health stats: Mississippi has the highest vaccination rate for school-age children. It’s not even close. Last year, 99.7 percent of the state’s kindergartners were fully vaccinated. Just 140 students in Mississippi entered school without all of their required shots.

Compare that with California, epicenter of the ongoing Disney measles outbreak, where last year almost 8 percent of kindergartners — totaling 41,000 children — failed to get the required immunizations against mumps, measles and rubella. In Oregon, that number was 6.8 percent. In Pennsylvania, it was nearly 15 percent, or 22,700 kindergartners. And each of these states has suffered measles outbreaks in the last two years.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Just need more right-wing Senators to offset Manchin guys

Jel Shaker posted:

educated = moral citizens

Yeah the idea of intelligence and/or education being related to morality is super irritating

Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 15:26 on Jun 26, 2021

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1408787814880366594?s=20

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING


God gently caress her, even Pence (on camera) seemed to care more about migrant children than this rear end in a top hat

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Comments are a cesspit of scumbags saying she doesn't have time for photo ops when she is "solving the problem"

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Eggplant Squire posted:

Comments are a cesspit of scumbags saying she doesn't have time for photo ops when she is "solving the problem"
That's a grim loving euphamism. :ohno:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Tubgoat posted:

That's a grim loving euphamism. :ohno:

They never say what it means (since they don't care) so it really does lead to the most grim thoughts

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




"When she solves it, it'll be for the final time!"

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

joe and kamala are finalizing a solution to the border crisis

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

"Let's take a picture!" she excitedly told the press gathered under the plane's wing in the nearly 100-degree heat on Friday. As for additional questions? Those she would not answer, instead walking away amid shouts of "Madam Vice President."

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

CongoJack posted:

What a loving psycho, I'm surprised the Republicans don't bring her up more often.

One party systems are a sad reality and tbh, it's not like her priorities are much different then whatever a hypothetical GOP candidate would do.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Harris spokeswoman Symone Sanders did not answer when asked why Harris did not visit the [kid concentration camp] facility, which is just 2 miles from the El Paso airport, but said the administration is taking reports of unsafe conditions "extremely seriously."

goddamn I hate these loving robots

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


theCalamity
Oct 23, 2010

Cry Havoc and let slip the Hogs of War
https://twitter.com/kevinaring/status/1408750742484176898?s=21

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


"Not gonna meet those worker quotas in those corporate contracts if we don't keep the prisons full" - Kamala Harris (probably)

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Some Guy TT posted:



I downloaded this image back in 2016. People are STILL sneering, "how you gonna pay for it, huh? How you gonna pay for it?" and then declaring, "socialists want everything for free." So... yeah. Feel free to swipe this any time you're stuck having to explain how affordable "socialism" really is.

While that image is cool I guess. I think it's more important to spread the idea that the federal government "paying for" stuff is capitalist framing, indeed most of what the government should be doing is explicitly "not-profitable" and that's ok. Government priorities should be based on the cost of NOT doing something. For example The lack of Universal Healthcare in the US costs us few hundred thousand lives and hospitalizations every year, in addition to propping up a parasitic cottage industry that exist solely to deny care to people and pocket the savings.

tl;dr. Guillotine Congress and everyone who works on K-street.

ate shit on live tv has issued a correction as of 16:45 on Jun 26, 2021

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Of the players I hate the most in this farce are the people on tv telling me about Joe Biden's empathy.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Baller Ina posted:

Green lanterism?

Surely a better term exists, holey moley

can someone please define this weird rear end term from 12 years ago because every link that purports to define it 404s

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Raskolnikov38 posted:

can someone please define this weird rear end term from 12 years ago because every link that purports to define it 404s

It seems to be an excuse for why Obama couldn't do anything, as in "The President isn't a superhero like Green Lantern, he can't just manifest things with the power of his will"

swampcow
Jul 4, 2011

why do we complain about how dumb and pathetic the dems are when it's pretty obvious that they're controlled opposition? it seems like us politics is just a game within a game. a push here, a poke there and civil unrest is managed or harnessed for the next election cycle. a common thought i see around here is that kabuki theater is done, but we never try to find the ultimate purpose of it all.

it's interesting to entertain the thought that maybe there's some kind of council of people that sit at the intersection of domestic politics, the state drpartment, intelligence services, the military, industry and finance. if they exist, what do they want? what do they believe? if you don't believe that such a thing is real, then you necessarily believe that somehow all these separate agencies and power structures just happen to keep it together across various large scale financial collapses, frequent regime changes, and changes to the landscape of society.

i dunno, tell me why i'm wrong or recommend some books about it if they exist

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Raskolnikov38 posted:

can someone please define this weird rear end term from 12 years ago because every link that purports to define it 404s

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/5/20/5732208/the-green-lantern-theory-of-the-presidency-explained

It's dumb

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

swampcow posted:

why do we complain about how dumb and pathetic the dems are when it's pretty obvious that they're controlled opposition? it seems like us politics is just a game within a game. a push here, a poke there and civil unrest is managed or harnessed for the next election cycle. a common thought i see around here is that kabuki theater is done, but we never try to find the ultimate purpose of it all.

it's interesting to entertain the thought that maybe there's some kind of council of people that sit at the intersection of domestic politics, the state drpartment, intelligence services, the military, industry and finance. if they exist, what do they want? what do they believe? if you don't believe that such a thing is real, then you necessarily believe that somehow all these separate agencies and power structures just happen to keep it together across various large scale financial collapses, frequent regime changes, and changes to the landscape of society.

i dunno, tell me why i'm wrong or recommend some books about it if they exist

the formal name for the council is “the cabinet of the United States of America”

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


lmao it was coined by America's dumbest boy

quote:

In 2006, Vox executive editor (and then-TPM Cafe blogger) Matthew Yglesias, responding to an argument for bombing Iran, coined the term "The Green Lantern Theory of Geopolitics".

A lot of people seem to think that American military might is like one of these power rings. They seem to think that, roughly speaking, we can accomplish absolutely anything in the world through the application of sufficient military force. The only thing limiting us is a lack of willpower.

What's more, this theory can't be empirically demonstrated to be wrong. Things that you or I might take as demonstrating the limited utility of military power to accomplish certain kinds of things are, instead, taken as evidence of lack of will. Thus we see that problems in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't reasons to avoid new military ventures, but reasons why we must embark upon them.

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004


processing human beings, in a streamlined way

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Willa Rogers posted:

"Let's take a picture!" she excitedly told the press gathered under the plane's wing in the nearly 100-degree heat on Friday. As for additional questions? Those she would not answer, instead walking away amid shouts of "Madam Vice President."

What a piece of poo poo

swampcow
Jul 4, 2011

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the formal name for the council is “the cabinet of the United States of America”

are you saying that the executive branch is at the center of it all? because i don't believe that and i could go on about why if you're interested.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


WampaLord posted:

lmao it was coined by America's dumbest boy

Lmao I missed that he really is the dumbest fucker

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Eggplant Squire posted:

Lmao I missed that he really is the dumbest fucker

quote:

There's plenty meanwhile that is actually up to the president. The Obama administration, for instance, was in charge of implementing Obamacare and they botched it badly. They have a lot of power to set sweeping limits on carbon emissions from power plants and there are real questions as to how they'll use it. They clearly have more power than they've chosen to exercise over the pace of deportations. They now have the ability to push both executive and judicial nominees through the Senate and so the continued slow pace of nominations is on them. The Treasury Department left a lot of money earmarked for helping homeowners languishing in a bank account. Even people without magical power rings can be very powerful

The executive branch is a big and powerful entity that manages programs of enormous consequence to Americans — and it's often run quite poorly. That's something the president really should answer for. But political reporting in America tends to focus more on new laws that are being pushed through congress than on the implementation of existing government programs. That's a process the president is involved in, but not one, contrary to how Green Lantern theorists portray it, that the president can ultimately control.

:qq: "Okay, so Obama actually does have plenty of power but you're REPORTING IT WRONG!" :qq:

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

swampcow posted:

if they exist, what do they want? what do they believe?

for number to go up

they believe in number

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

swampcow posted:

are you saying that the executive branch is at the center of it all? because i don't believe that and i could go on about why if you're interested.

more that the various councils of government are what are directing the various moving parts to move partly in step with each other rather than the trilateral commission

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

That article is pretty loving funny in the hindsight of the Trump admin.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

swampcow posted:

why do we complain about how dumb and pathetic the dems are when it's pretty obvious that they're controlled opposition? it seems like us politics is just a game within a game. a push here, a poke there and civil unrest is managed or harnessed for the next election cycle. a common thought i see around here is that kabuki theater is done, but we never try to find the ultimate purpose of it all.

it's interesting to entertain the thought that maybe there's some kind of council of people that sit at the intersection of domestic politics, the state drpartment, intelligence services, the military, industry and finance. if they exist, what do they want? what do they believe? if you don't believe that such a thing is real, then you necessarily believe that somehow all these separate agencies and power structures just happen to keep it together across various large scale financial collapses, frequent regime changes, and changes to the landscape of society.

i dunno, tell me why i'm wrong or recommend some books about it if they exist

Read imperialism: the highest stage of capitalism by V. I. Lenin

CongoJack
Nov 5, 2009

Ask Why, Asshole

https://twitter.com/DyMdillon/status/1408792623435894790?s=19

swampcow
Jul 4, 2011

Raskolnikov38 posted:

more that the various councils of government are what are directing the various moving parts to move partly in step with each other rather than the trilateral commission

which councils? and how do they perpetuate general strategies into the future?

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

Its important to remember that green lantern theory is a strawman description of leftist criticism of democrat politicians. It equates a valid concern that politicians are not trying hard enough or (sit down for this one) might not actually want to do what they said they want to do with a claim like 'presidents hold unlimited power and can achieve their desires through force of will alone'. The latter being obviously not the point in question and a handy effigy to string up.

Its popular with the liberal npr types and is deployed mostly to calm down their audience when someone talks about how kids are still in concentration camps a little too loudly. Specifically, its a deflection liberal media deploys against leftist criticism so their lib audience can safely dismiss said criticism.

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
i am perpetually jealous of the american conservative movement's ability to look at the bigger long term picture to push its ideology. sure it's absolutely wretched and killing us all, but they know enough about politics to plan for how they want to achieve their goals, while democrats dont have anything at all. republicans step aside and let new blood in to let their ideology fester over time while to democrats, it doesn't matter what this country is like as long as their specific people are in the White House and cabinet spots.

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Trauts
May 1, 2010

WampaLord posted:

It seems to be an excuse for why Obama couldn't do anything, as in "The President isn't a superhero like Green Lantern, he can't just manifest things with the power of his will"

drone-comic-but-with-green-lantern.jpg

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