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This has nothing to do with anything, but I just started playing the Master Chief Collection. Started with the first Halo and man the original graphics are terrible. It's crazy how your nostalgia makes it so you remember it looking more like the remastered graphics than the original. I know it being on an old tv back in the day instead of a 47" HDTV would have made it look slightly better but it still blew my mind. I wasn't even super young when I played the first Halo, I was about 15.
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Jun 28, 2021 16:30
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True but it has been 20 years, I don't think GTA3 and Max Payne 1 would look as good as I'd remember 
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Jun 28, 2021 16:37
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Max Payne 1 still looks great in the painted cutscenes. The game, well, Max Payne face exists for a reason.
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Jun 28, 2021 16:38
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JollyBoyJohn posted:True but it has been 20 years, I don't think GTA3 and Max Payne 1 would look as good as I'd remember 30th anniversary of sonic the now as well 
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Jun 28, 2021 16:38
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lmao when I was a kid I borrowed Sonic 1 from a friend of mine and he said that there was a level called the Labyrinth where you fight the Minotaur. Well my friends was half right, there is a level called labyrinth zone but there are no giant bovine men its just lots of drowning and being crushed by traps, my world was crushed
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Jun 28, 2021 16:46
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drat son, the metroid 2 fan remake is far and away better than the MercurySteam remake. the environments are plain and the melee counter is super goddamn annoying and obliterates the pace of the game. kinda worried about Dread now
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Jun 28, 2021 16:54
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:drat son, the metroid 2 fan remake is far and away better than the MercurySteam remake. the environments are plain and the melee counter is super goddamn annoying and obliterates the pace of the game. Did you get to the new boss Mercury Stream added at the end of the game? Because its loving dire.
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Jun 28, 2021 17:02
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It's funny how in Europe in early 2000s Xbox just wasn't a thing. It was Playstation:Xbox like 10 to 1 in terms of sales, and especially when it came to FPS games it was all about Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike. Halo was not even on our radar because it just looked so sterile and unimpressive. We were all about that edge, Halo was for babies. It was only retrospectively I heard the phrase "halo killer" and how big Halo was in the US. And I recently bought the Halo bundle to figure out what I've been missing and jeez those games are flat.
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Jun 28, 2021 17:10
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Vic posted:It's funny how in Europe in early 2000s Xbox just wasn't a thing. It was Playstation:Xbox like 10 to 1 in terms of sales, and especially when it came to FPS games it was all about Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike. Halo was not even on our radar because it just looked so sterile and unimpressive. We were all about that edge, Halo was for babies. It was only retrospectively I heard the phrase "halo killer" and how big Halo was in the US. I think it was more of an experience when consoles moved into the mainstream of entertainment and at the same time got powerful enough to run FPSs. I remember a lot of PC gamers back in the day having the same reaction when they were new. Unreal tournament and Quake 3 were out and much better than Halo
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Jun 28, 2021 17:17
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Vic posted:And I recently bought the Halo bundle to figure out what I've been missing and jeez those games are flat. how dare you question the mighty Halo! seriously though, I own all the Halo games and they are fine, not amazing, just...OK. For perspective, I consider Quake 2 from 1997, a far, far better shooter than all the Halos combined.
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Vic posted:It's funny how in Europe in early 2000s Xbox just wasn't a thing. It was Playstation:Xbox like 10 to 1 in terms of sales, and especially when it came to FPS games it was all about Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike. Halo was not even on our radar because it just looked so sterile and unimpressive. We were all about that edge, Halo was for babies. It was only retrospectively I heard the phrase "halo killer" and how big Halo was in the US. It's so true, the only people I ever knew with an X-Box were super nerds who used to solely for XBMC and didn't ever buy a single game. (Except for Splinter Cell, lol). tango alpha delta posted:how dare you question the mighty Halo! Yeah I mean that's the thing though, for a LOT of gamers, Goldeneye was their Doom, y'know? Like, "Oh poo poo this genre, especially multiplayer, is awesome!". And then you had it again with Halo and again with CoD, where there are MUCH better versions of that game out there, but just being the first time someone experiences it, it's gonna blow them away, and that first time will always resonate super strong. I know this one kid who's first multiplayer FPS was TimeSplitters 2, and he's still kinda obsessed with it. Like it was a good game, sure, but would you ever consider bringing it up in a conversation about best / most influential FPS games? !Klams fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 28, 2021 |
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!Klams posted:I know this one kid who's first multiplayer FPS was TimeSplitters 2, and he's still kinda obsessed with it. Like it was a good game, sure, but would you ever consider bringing it up in a conversation about best / most influential FPS games? No but Timessplitters 1 was rad as gently caress, it had time-travel and blunderbusses and just a good theme, unlike doom or quake I never ever want to play it again though
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Jun 28, 2021 17:29
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Barudak posted:Did you get to the new boss Mercury Stream added at the end of the game? Because its loving dire. no, i stopped playing it and downloaded AM2R (which is good as hell). i got so tired of walking into a room, waiting for an enemy to attack, countering it, then mashing the fire button until the thing died, only to walk half a screen over and having to do the wait-counter-fire thing all over again. really ruins the pace of the game, and enemies have a ton of health and damage, so they can't really be ignored or dodged. the melee counter looks good on the back of the box, but someone who play tested the game had to have pointed out how annoying executing the wait-counter-fire pattern on *every* enemy in the game was. it's baffling MercurySteam and Nintendo thought Samus Returns was fine.
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Jun 28, 2021 17:34
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Vic posted:It's funny how in Europe in early 2000s Xbox just wasn't a thing. It was Playstation:Xbox like 10 to 1 in terms of sales, and especially when it came to FPS games it was all about Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike. Halo was not even on our radar because it just looked so sterile and unimpressive. We were all about that edge, Halo was for babies. It was only retrospectively I heard the phrase "halo killer" and how big Halo was in the US. agreed. i dabbled into halo as a high school kid, but BF1942, Q3 and UT were my jam, so i pretty much ignored Halo. i went back and tried to play reach for the first time last month, and good lord was it ever slow and boring.
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Vic posted:It's funny how in Europe in early 2000s Xbox just wasn't a thing. It was Playstation:Xbox like 10 to 1 in terms of sales, and especially when it came to FPS games it was all about Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike. Halo was not even on our radar because it just looked so sterile and unimpressive. We were all about that edge, Halo was for babies. It was only retrospectively I heard the phrase "halo killer" and how big Halo was in the US. I was the rare nerd who had Xbox in Europe. I got Xbox mainly because of KOTOR, which was reason enough. And I got XB360 mainly for the controller, because Playstation controllers suck if you have large hands. After that I've just played on PC.
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I got an xbox because my dad was a massive nerd who wanted to play KoToR lol
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lobsterminator posted:I got Xbox mainly because of KOTOR, which was reason enough. And I got XB360 mainly for the controller, because Playstation controllers suck if you have large hands. What are you talking about, 360 and ps4 controllers are fine for any handled people it's the xbox duke that deserves to get slagged off
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Jun 28, 2021 17:48
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I can't remember why I bought an Xbox. I do remember trading it in for a slim PS2 and GTA:SA though.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:What are you talking about, 360 and ps4 controllers are fine for any handled people it's the xbox duke that deserves to get slagged off Well also the XB360 controller layout is more logical IMO. The left stick is the primary controller so it's positioned optimally for your thumb and the for the right hand the buttons are primary so they are the position. I think the Playstation symmetrical layout is not as good.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:What are you talking about, 360 and ps4 controllers are fine for any handled people it's the xbox duke that deserves to get slagged off Lmao, look at small hands here.
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Jun 28, 2021 17:51
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Lmao, look at small hands here. 
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Jun 28, 2021 17:57
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The Duke was fine if you had big ol sausage fingers like me, but some people try to say it was better than the S controller and they're absolutely out of their minds.
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Jun 28, 2021 17:59
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lobsterminator posted:Well also the XB360 controller layout is more logical IMO. The left stick is the primary controller so it's positioned optimally for your thumb and the for the right hand the buttons are primary so they are the position. I think the Playstation symmetrical layout is not as good. Yeah on any Playstation controller pushing the sticks inward makes my thumbs hit eachother which is pretty annoying.
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Jun 28, 2021 18:14
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Yeah on any Playstation controller pushing the sticks inward makes my thumbs hit eachother which is pretty annoying. jfc how big are your thumbs
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Jun 28, 2021 18:15
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Don't thumb shame
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Yeah on any Playstation controller pushing the sticks inward makes my thumbs hit eachother which is pretty annoying. lol
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Vic posted:It's funny how in Europe in early 2000s Xbox just wasn't a thing. It was Playstation:Xbox like 10 to 1 in terms of sales, and especially when it came to FPS games it was all about Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike. Halo was not even on our radar because it just looked so sterile and unimpressive. We were all about that edge, Halo was for babies. It was only retrospectively I heard the phrase "halo killer" and how big Halo was in the US. So it wasn't just a Dutch thing, I see. Nobody I knew had an Xbox and nobody ever talked about Halo, it was all PS2 all the time. I remember seeing ads for Halo 2 at bus stops and being surprised that MS shelled out the cash for advertising in a market that seemed very indifferent to it. And then 360 came out and MS instantly caught up with Sony. It was weird times.
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Yeah the explosion of 360 was the most bizarre thing, I didn't avoid the ps3 for any particular reason but everything just funnelled towards the xbox for that generation which was great because i had the best console to put 150 hours into fallout 3 in
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Was the ps3 not insanely overpriced at release in Europe? I figure that is what drove a lot of 360 sales in the US
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In the country of europe, no one had heard of halo, all we played was Beetroot simulator 2000
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Doctor J Off posted:I think it was more of an experience when consoles moved into the mainstream of entertainment and at the same time got powerful enough to run FPSs. I remember a lot of PC gamers back in the day having the same reaction when they were new. Unreal tournament and Quake 3 were out and much better than Halo Halo was right time right place. It was at the dawn of the (decent) console FPS and the college dorm gaming golden age. KrunkMcGrunk posted:no, i stopped playing it and downloaded AM2R (which is good as hell). This is why the iron keep in Dark Souls 2 is the loving worst.
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Jun 28, 2021 19:28
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The iron keep was great you monster
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Zzulu posted:In the country of europe, no one had heard of halo, all we played was Beetroot simulator 2000 and pes
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I was recommended rust from a few friends and it was in the steam sale, so far my experience has been waiting 30 minutes for it to load, it crashing and then waiting another 30 minutes and it's almost done This better be loving amazing
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I was recommended rust from a few friends and it was in the steam sale, so far my experience has been waiting 30 minutes for it to load, it crashing and then waiting another 30 minutes and it's almost done its not
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Jun 28, 2021 20:14
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Lol get a refund before you go over the 2 hours
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I was recommended rust from a few friends and it was in the steam sale, so far my experience has been waiting 30 minutes for it to load, it crashing and then waiting another 30 minutes and it's almost done it's v bad OP
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Phigs posted:Halo was right time right place. It was at the dawn of the (decent) console FPS and the college dorm gaming golden age. It also did a lot of innovative poo poo that you don't really see these days because it's commonly accepted and for the most part people ignored it's terrible campaign so playing it these days loses that shooting your buddies over pizza feel that it catered to back before everything went online. Console shooter controls were complete dogshit and then Halo popped up being designed pretty much straight for them. The regenerating armor that people love to rag on was a pretty unique system at the time that ensured you would never be stuck having to win this next fight a single bullet from death, and the seamless vehicle/on foot flow was still novel even in PC games. It was also a breath of fresh air during a period where you were being drowned in ww2 shooting games, just like unreal tournament and ts2 were at the time. But good lord the campaign in the first one has such dogshit design it's amazing it took off anyways.
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