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John Murdoch posted:I think all of the latter-era ones also include a riff about "super violent porn cartoons" somewhere. That one I would give them a pass on, even though it is a reductive and incorrect description. In the late 90's anime wasn't omnipresent in the west like it is now. All the average person who didn't follow that kind of thing really knew about anime was what was played on SciFi during their anime marathons and a lot of those were pretty graphically violent, yeah, and they were known to have tits in them even though they couldn't get past American censors. Maybe your larger Blockbusters had anime sections if you wanted to rent a tape and see the tits for yourself. But yeah, it's easy to forget now, but that was pretty much how anime was introduced as a concept to a lot of North Americans. It would be super weird if they made that riff now, of course. (Though if super violent porn cartoons are your jam, Japan does have you covered.)
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Japanimation was the term I recall.
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Julet Esqu posted:That one I would give them a pass on, even though it is a reductive and incorrect description. In the late 90's anime wasn't omnipresent in the west like it is now. All the average person who didn't follow that kind of thing really knew about anime was what was played on SciFi during their anime marathons and a lot of those were pretty graphically violent, yeah, and they were known to have tits in them even though they couldn't get past American censors. Maybe your larger Blockbusters had anime sections if you wanted to rent a tape and see the tits for yourself. But yeah, it's easy to forget now, but that was pretty much how anime was introduced as a concept to a lot of North Americans. It's less that super violent porn cartoons is some gross exaggeration and more that taking it as a quintessentially Japanese thing, and that more or less being the entire joke, is a bit iffy. Not the worst riff by any stretch, that much I agree with.
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Being From Another Planet is on Svengoolie tonight and I just learned that the actual title is Time Walker and the mst3k version’s title is a huge spoiler. You’re not supposed to know the mummy is an alien until the end. It’s like terminator 2’s trailer spoiling that Arnold is a good guy.
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A Pack of Kobolds posted:Japanimation was the term I recall. I still remember when Sci-Fi had Saturday Japanime on the schedule.
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John Murdoch posted:It's less that super violent porn cartoons is some gross exaggeration and more that taking it as a quintessentially Japanese thing, and that more or less being the entire joke, is a bit iffy. Not the worst riff by any stretch, that much I agree with. If I remember the mid 90s correctly, the only japanimations that were float around repertory houses were Akira (yay!) and Legend of the Overfiend (yikes!). At least in the north east. All the MST3K references were i think covered by these two movies. I was a regular rep house guy and those were the only two that I remember coming through.
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Another Bill posted:If I remember the mid 90s correctly, the only japanimations that were float around repertory houses were Akira (yay!) and Legend of the Overfiend (yikes!). At least in the north east. I remember Vampire Hunter D being all over the Sci-Fi Channel years before they aired Akira. I think I was pissed when they preempted Quantum Leap reruns for Project A-Ko.
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Nemo2342 posted:I still remember when Sci-Fi had Saturday Japanime on the schedule. I saw Harmaggedon and Demon City Shinjuku so many times.
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John Murdoch posted:It's less that super violent porn cartoons is some gross exaggeration and more that taking it as a quintessentially Japanese thing, and that more or less being the entire joke, is a bit iffy. Not the worst riff by any stretch, that much I agree with. Considering who they were and where they lived, that...kind of was what anime was. Anime that came over in the 90s to relatively normal people who didn't go looking for it was either kid shows on TV that you didn't even think of as anime, or violent porn cartoons. Half of the 1980s OVAs that made their way to the states were built on that staple. That's a reason I don't have any issue with that joke. It's like joking about America being the burger gun country. We were that. I'd say we *are* that, but the rest of the world got infected by burgers but we're still the most gun! There's even an OVA explicitly about that in fact. If someone tried to make that joke these days, yeah, that'd get poo poo on really hard. Even in the early 2000s. But I can tell you from vivid memories going to a video rental place, you would have to try not to find something with gratuitous violence, nudity or both and that's because all that was coming over in that capacity were the cheaper OVA stuff from the mid to late 80s and very early 90s. We didn't see the swing around until the late 90s. So I don't really consider that on the same level as 'we thought this was acceptable at the time but we were wrong'. You start pumping Mad Dogs and Apocalypse Zeros out into the world, you're going to get stared at
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Another Bill posted:If I remember the mid 90s correctly, the only japanimations that were float around repertory houses were Akira (yay!) and Legend of the Overfiend (yikes!). At least in the north east. I actually saw both of those when I was in the UK, would've been mid or late '92. A British friend of mine who was a fellow science fiction buff had various Japanese anime movies and TV shows and every so often me and one or two of my other British friends would go over to his place and get some beers and whatever takeaway food (pizza or Chinese, mainly) and watch stuff. One night he put Akira on and it really blew my mind. Another night he put on Legend of the Overfiend and...erm...yeah. That was something all right. 
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ADTRW, on this very site, is basically named for the same joke
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I know how to improve the Avengers movies:
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I know how to improve the Avengers movies: *Thanos stands with the completed gauntlet staring down the Avengers for 30 seconds* "DO SOMETHING! GOD!"
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I actually saw both of those when I was in the UK, would've been mid or late '92. A British friend of mine who was a fellow science fiction buff had various Japanese anime movies and TV shows and every so often me and one or two of my other British friends would go over to his place and get some beers and whatever takeaway food (pizza or Chinese, mainly) and watch stuff. One night he put Akira on and it really blew my mind. Another night he put on Legend of the Overfiend and...erm...yeah. That was something all right. Same experience, and it sounds like anime spread to the US in the same way it did to the UK. There was a video label called 'Manga' that had been releasing children's stuff for a few years, but they went full-blast when they released Akira on VHS. Two editions, subbed or dubbed, and they courted the press like gently caress which meant that the cover had glowing review quotes from the Times and such. It really was a breakthrough moment that immediately went mainstream, hitting 'film of the year' charts that animated films rarely brushed against, and seemed like it was an insight into a slice of another culture that had been completely unknown until then. Then Legend of the Overfiend came out and it became apparent that Akira was justifiably elevated, and a lot of the stuff that followed was pretty much grotty old bollocks for weirdos.
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I know how to improve the Avengers movies: i'M rEd SkUlL, i TaKe cArE oF ThE sOuL gEm wHiLe tHe MaStEr iS AwAy
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Minghawk posted:Same experience, and it sounds like anime spread to the US in the same way it did to the UK. I do recall we laughed a lot at the terrible dubbing in the version of LotO that he had, but otherwise it was definitely one of those "man I sure hope nobody I know walks in here  " kinda movies.
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Minghawk posted:Same experience, and it sounds like anime spread to the US in the same way it did to the UK. Which I can't even find right now because the image search mostly gives me modern anime! As long as we're talking about anime and new takes on old tokusatsu, I just want to note that Godzilla: Singular Point just hit Netflix the other day. It's pretty good, features some high-concept superscience written by an actual physicist-turned-SF-novelist, and not only features the return of our old friend Jet Jaguar:  but also has this nod to another MST3k episode in the end credits (which are wall-to-wall references to past Godzilla movies): 
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As much as "Rex Dart: Eskimo Spy" makes me squirm now, that Godzilla ep was awesome. Too bad about the rights.
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I know how to improve the Avengers movies: I wish those hands would just push him right over...
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Every time I come close to not hating him I see the feet on the side of his van.
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His mother never really loved him~!
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Dawgstar posted:His mother never really loved him~! I'd like to think he finally pushed that kid into a rock.  please don't check my bags Mr. Customs Man
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The redemption of Jet Jaguar is the best thing about Godzilla Singular Point. He fights an entire swarm of Megalons at one point.
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So is there some kind of backstory to Prince of Space? Because in the MST3K version he just kind of appears out of nowhere with no explanation.
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muscles like this! posted:So is there some kind of backstory to Prince of Space? Because in the MST3K version he just kind of appears out of nowhere with no explanation. Apparently the movie was based on a Japanese TV series and will getting a modern reboot at some point. Otherwise not really sure about the details (Chikao Ohtsuka apparently played Krankor in the original version though) Though I will say that the whole "Your weapons are useless against me" line was probably something more akin to "I'm invincible/It's useless" in the Japanese version (meaning it wasn't so much that he was literally immune to their weapons but rather he was just fast enough to easily dodge them) Larryb fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jun 28, 2021 |
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muscles like this! posted:So is there some kind of backstory to Prince of Space? Because in the MST3K version he just kind of appears out of nowhere with no explanation.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Being From Another Planet is on Svengoolie tonight and I just learned that the actual title is Time Walker and the mst3k version’s title is a huge spoiler. You’re not supposed to know the mummy is an alien until the end. It’s like terminator 2’s trailer spoiling that Arnold is a good guy. Being from another planet, I
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH1SNmY_1XY If somehow you've never seen it, Rifftrax has Birdemic up on their youtube channel for free now. It's a Manos level masterpiece of film making.
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TL posted:Slr pnls. Sulr pnnlls?
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Another Bill posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH1SNmY_1XY I actually can't make it through even with Mike, Bill and Kevin. It's not even funny bad, it's just like one of those people on Facebook who tries to do NaNoWriMo because 'I totally have a good idea for a novel' and then realises they actually just had one particular scene in mind and so they stretch a 10 page short story out over 200 pages.
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Birdemic is like a movie made by someone who has a basic knowledge of what movies are but has not actually seen one.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Birdemic is like a movie made by someone who has a basic knowledge of what movies are but has not actually seen one. The Enraptured Pizza Girl picture is a better movie than Birdemic and it is a still image.
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Headin' down the road, tryna loosen my load, I got Coleman Francis on my mind
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Splint Chesthair posted:The redemption of Jet Jaguar is the best thing about Godzilla Singular Point. He fights an entire swarm of Megalons at one point. Or for that matter his final fight against Godzilla
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