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Anne Whateley posted:Honestly I don't get why the scientists who developed them aren't being treated like astronauts in the '60s. I've been comparing these vaccines to the moon landing since last year. It's very apt.
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Jun 28, 2021 16:14
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Anne Whateley posted:Honestly I don't get why the scientists who developed them aren't being treated like astronauts in the '60s. I don't think I've ever even seen an interview. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/tennis/57642853
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Anne Whateley posted:Honestly I don't get why the scientists who developed them aren't being treated like astronauts in the '60s. I don't think I've ever even seen an interview. The two Turkish-German inventors of the Pfizer vaccines are the pride of the Turkish-German community like you couldn’t possibly comprehend
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Jun 28, 2021 16:32
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A concerning amount of people think the scientists are trying to make them part of Bill Gates' Chinese 5g Army, plus the scientists probably don't have haircuts you can set your watch to.
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Jun 28, 2021 16:36
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Imagine someone from a racial minority in the US inventing a nobel price worthy vaccine to have an analogy to what this approximates for those groups
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Jun 28, 2021 16:36
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"The only science I believe in is the science that created these amazing new 3-D Doritos with extra flavor blasts." - roughly 30% of the US.
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Jun 28, 2021 16:39
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I live in NYC so I heard plenty of banging on pots for OUR FRONTLINE HEROES. I just feel like it's weird that there's not Mercury astronaut–level coverage of the teams who created the vaccines, like why are they not on Wheaties boxes and chatting about their favorite music with Ellen and posing for action figures. I hope they are in Germany at least!
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Anne Whateley posted:I live in NYC so I heard plenty of banging on pots for OUR FRONTLINE HEROES. I just feel like it's weird that there's not Mercury astronaut–level coverage of the teams who created the vaccines, like why are they not on Wheaties boxes and chatting about their favorite music with Ellen and posing for action figures I'm gonna assume nobody gets into microbiology for the fame.
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Anne Whateley posted:I live in NYC so I heard plenty of banging on pots for OUR FRONTLINE HEROES. I just feel like it's weird that there's not Mercury astronaut–level coverage of the teams who created the vaccines, like why are they not on Wheaties boxes and chatting about their favorite music with Ellen and posing for action figures. I hope they are in Germany at least! The Mercury and Apollo missions, as well as the comparable Soviet programs, were very explicitly meant as public image/media campaigns for their respective nations. Doing PR and making the Astronauts/Cosmonauts into celebrities was an important part of the mission objective. Now, maybe that is something that we should have considered to help bolster the images of the vaccines among the public, but we're kinda past that point now.
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LanceHunter posted:The Mercury and Apollo missions, as well as the comparable Soviet programs, were very explicitly meant as public image/media campaigns for their respective nations. Doing PR and making the Astronauts/Cosmonauts into celebrities was an important part of the mission objective. Now, maybe that is something that we should have considered to help bolster the images of the vaccines among the public, but we're kinda past that point now. we don't have to be past that point
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Jun 28, 2021 16:55
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unfortunately, the one public figure who could influence the most vaccine-resistant audience to change their mind deliberately got vaccinated under cover of darkness
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Anne Whateley posted:I live in NYC so I heard plenty of banging on pots for OUR FRONTLINE HEROES. I just feel like it's weird that there's not Mercury astronaut–level coverage of the teams who created the vaccines, like why are they not on Wheaties boxes and chatting about their favorite music with Ellen and posing for action figures. I hope they are in Germany at least! The Pfizer (actually BioNTech) vaccine creators are Turkish-German and there at least can do no wrong. The lady in charge of the Oxford vaccine research is staggeringly dull and doesn't make for good TV and the Moderna structure is messy and hard to find an individual to elevate. Plus nobody wants to mention Moderna took 2.5 billion dollars of public funds and still priced their vaccine the highest in the world.
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oldskool posted:unfortunately, the one public figure who could influence the most vaccine-resistant audience to change their mind deliberately got vaccinated under cover of darkness And did everything to make it look like his case wasn't serious when he was panicking like crazy . Then, after he recovered, told everybody it wasn't that bad and don't let it run your life.
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https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1409548161274810375?s=21 England had a massive anti lockdown protest this weekend as well. Obviously no one was wearing a mask because it was outside. Also this is one way to deal with people not getting the jab lol https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1409557065610240002?s=21 Tbf I have not seen any numbers as to their vaccination rates.
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Anne Whateley posted:I live in NYC so I heard plenty of banging on pots for OUR FRONTLINE HEROES. I just feel like it's weird that there's not Mercury astronaut–level coverage of the teams who created the vaccines, like why are they not on Wheaties boxes and chatting about their favorite music with Ellen and posing for action figures. I hope they are in Germany at least! It was all perfotmative at best. I forgot about the pots and pans but I didn't forget my car getting vandalized after going into a store in my scrubs after work, or the people set up across from the hospital blaming us for creating and spreading it and experimenting on people under the guise of covid.
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Jun 28, 2021 18:42
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Anne Whateley posted:I don't think many loons would/could travel to Germany when Fauci is right here and not remotely shy Did you not see what happened to the Belgian Fauci equivalent? The US has been exporting brain worms worldwide at an alarming rate https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57168576.amp
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https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1409613852933705730?s=21 So sucks about cases going up but great news about hospitalizations. It’s going to be interesting to see how things go there because if poo poo goes really south there it’s only a matter of time till it hits the rest of us.
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Anne Whateley posted:Honestly I don't get why the scientists who developed them aren't being treated like astronauts in the '60s. I don't think I've ever even seen an interview. There are two separate one hour documentaries on BBC iplayer. One is about the Astra Zenica / Oxford vaccine, and the other is a more general one. Both are great. The AZ one has a lot of focus on the people who made it. I found it quite moving tbh. Not what I expected, but really, really good.
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Awoke this morning to the news that a third capital city is now in lockdown. AZ is being made available to anyone over the age of 18 now. poo poo is getting very real, very fast.
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MarcusSA posted:https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1409613852933705730?s=21 My understanding is Israel has quite a large young population so I would expect them to be stuck with a lot of people who don't want to because they are young or cannot get the vaccine due to being too young.
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Israel is already reintroducing NPI making comparison to the US largely pointless imo. How about the UK?  Lag indicators starting to climb..   Scotland having a real one. https://twitter.com/BristOliver/status/1409241201987960837
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Blitter posted:Israel is already reintroducing NPI making comparison to the US largely pointless imo. What does NPI mean in this instance? The point I was attempting to make is that Israel make indoor masks mandatory again and if things start to spike there after all they’ve done we definitely don’t have a chance. Specifically talking about hospitalizations. If they remain low but cases go up that would mean things are working as they should.
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MarcusSA posted:What does NPI mean in this instance? NPI = non pharmaceutical interventions, aka stuff other than vaccines like requiring masks, restrictions on activities/events/gatherings, etc.
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gohuskies posted:NPI = non pharmaceutical interventions, aka stuff other than vaccines like requiring masks, restrictions on activities/events/gatherings, etc. Got it. It will be interesting to see if that levels things off then.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:That looks... bad? It's good actually
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Lolie posted:Awoke this morning to the news that a third capital city is now in lockdown. AZ is being made available to anyone over the age of 18 now. We'll be back to normal in a month but this better make people pull their fingers out and try to get vaxxed. I'm going to try to get AZ through my GP but fully expect it to be a fool's errand. It's all well and good to say the under-40s are eligible for it but we kinda need, uh, more. edit - lol OK that was easy I just rang my GP and they answered straight away and booked me in for Friday freebooter fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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freebooter posted:We'll be back to normal in a month but this better make people pull their fingers out and try to get vaxxed. Yeah, we have a ton of AZ and a military mind is now in charge of distributing it. What's weird is that a week ago doctors were cancelling weekend vaccination clinics because the demand wasn't there. I expect they'll be swamped now. I'm booked for my second dose next Monday.
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The demand wasn't there among paranoid boomers (the Good Boomers having already been vaccinated) but there'll be a huge amount of demand among the under-40s. Everybody my age that I know would have happily taken the AZ months ago if it were available to them.
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Purgatory Glory posted:My understanding is Israel has quite a large young population so I would expect them to be stuck with a lot of people who don't want to because they are young or cannot get the vaccine due to being too young. I'm still surprised they plateaued so low after the insane speed of their early vaccination campaign. Sub-60% is pretty dire.
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It's not how you start, it's how you finish.
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19 new cases for NSW. I don't like the chances of that being down to zero by Friday next week.
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Lolie posted:19 new cases for NSW. I don't like the chances of that being down to zero by Friday next week. It'll disappear, like a miracle
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Lolie posted:19 new cases for NSW. I don't like the chances of that being down to zero by Friday next week. My concern is that rather than cop the lockdown weeks it requires to get down to zero, NSW will open up again around 10-15 because their government seems fine with just having a constant low burn of COVID, in contradiction to what every other state and territory in the country aims for.
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freebooter posted:My concern is that rather than cop the lockdown weeks it requires to get down to zero, NSW will open up again around 10-15 because their government seems fine with just having a constant low burn of COVID, in contradiction to what every other state and territory in the country aims for. As we've said before: this is the new normal. Get used to it, it ain't going away. Get your vaccine and move on with life.
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How are u posted:As we've said before: this is the new normal. Get used to it, it ain't going away. Get your vaccine and move on with life. Not everyone is some witless asshat like you, blindly embracing your for profit death cult. Perhaps you should learn from your betters and shut the gently caress up about what other people do, in other countries? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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How are u posted:As we've said before: this is the new normal. Get used to it, it ain't going away. Get your vaccine and move on with life. you're the reason I'll be doing funerals until someone like you kills me because my garbage body allows a breakthrough case to nail me to a wall. thanks for that.
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