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keep punching joe posted:Was that Stewart Lee the Guardian columnist or Stewart Lee the stand up comedian? e: twice in a row but I'm still not doing it, no gods no masters Borrovan fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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At least he doesn't have EU Supergirl on the list.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:03
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I think Bill Bailey is quite good, if quiet and not very online.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:10
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Bill Bailey is one of the most talented human beings I've ever seen and he was magic on strictly
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Jun 29, 2021 11:11
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Josef bugman posted:I think Bill Bailey is quite good, if quiet and not very online. IIRC he had some dodgy "aren't foreign accents funny" material a few tours back but otherwise fairly sound yeah
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Jun 29, 2021 11:14
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Singular lack of women on those comedian lists! Back in the extremely dim and distant, I went to Raymond's Revue Bar in Soho to see the new, up and coming comedians of the Comic Strip Presents, club. Funnily enough, the bouncers were very quick to discern who was queuing for the strip show and who was queuing for the comedy theatre without having to ask but I digress. Alexei Sayle was and is great. I think it was him who came on doing an impression of someone in the wrong half of the theatre along the lines of "Sven, Sven when is the strip going to start?" There was a guy did an owl impression that was hilarious - I think he was called Chris or something like that. I didn't find French & Saunders very funny. In the modern era, I think Bill Bailey is brilliant - I did see him live about 20 years ago. Talking of women comedians which noone was but I am: Shaparak "Shappi" Khorsandi and Jenny Eclaire I have seen live and they're both great. (I can't speak for their politics mind you! I haven't looked them up.) But apparently I am an old curmudgeon because I do not find Miranda 'one joke - I'm big and awkward and can't get a bloke and all say ah because a bloke asked me out' Hart remotely funny. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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Jun 29, 2021 11:21
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Tbh there's always been a singular lack of really famous female stand-ups. Not that there's been a lack of good female stand-ups in general. There's tonnes at the moment, can't remember many names but I saw loads of comedy in lockdown on the Covid Arms thing that Kiri Pritchard-McLean was doing, there were some really good women on there. Women just don't tend to get famous doing it like men do. I think a big part is that the female stand-ups you see on the telly tend to stick to material that (male) producers &c think are appropriate humour for women (i.e., complaining about husbands/lack of husbands (as appropriate), motherhood, occasional "risque" period jokes), which just aren't funny. Saw someone whose name I can't remember (she's Indian I think?) on the telly last year who's normally really funny, but no, the telly got a full set of "my husband" jokes & it was bad. Also Miranda is not funny.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:34
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On this stuff about creativity - It's not like Britain suddenly isn't producing creative people. It's that now, the breakout creative stars of the 10s are streamers and youtubers, and that's an ecosystem where british people still do well. Just that the mainstream media refuses to recognize or credit the talent there, so someone like Tom Scott makes weekly youtube videos rather than starts a new BBC documentary series or quiz show.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:36
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Borrovan posted:Saw someone whose name I can't remember (she's Indian I think?) on the telly last year who's normally really funny, but no, the telly got a full set of "my husband" jokes & it was bad. If you mean Sindhu Vee she seems likeable but I cannot find her funny for the life of me. I saw her at a comedy club night just before she broke onto the panel show circuit and she bombed horribly. There's loads of really good female comedians but as you say they're never allowed to get quite as famous as the men. I think Comedy Central and Dave have just started piloting panel shows presented by women, a few years ago that was unthinkable.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:39
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sebzilla posted:IIRC he had some dodgy "aren't foreign accents funny" material a few tours back but otherwise fairly sound yeah I saw that tour and it was literal "ching chong Chinaman" stuff, so I wouldn't give him benefit of the doubt.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:41
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Yeah, I’m a bit weak on 90s female comics, but Sue Perkins is politically pretty good. Like most comedians, has a bunch of transphobia in her past, but thoroughly denounces it now. Also British comedy is really great at the moment, but is still being choked to death by Avalon basically owning and vetting every entry into television.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:41
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Susan Calman is a national treasure
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Jun 29, 2021 11:46
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Even as a Scotsman Kevin Bridges is shite
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Jun 29, 2021 11:47
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Even as a Scotsman Kevin Bridges is shite He is, he's in the James Corden Zone for me sad to say, him and that baldy oval office who just shouts like he's in Dad's Army
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Jun 29, 2021 11:48
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Pork Lift posted:Yeah, I’m a bit weak on 90s female comics, but Sue Perkins is politically pretty good. Like most comedians, has a bunch of transphobia in her past, but thoroughly denounces it now. She's usually got solid opinions, but she's also exceptionally centrist. Like, the dictionary definition of a FBPE centrist. Failed Imagineer posted:He is, he's in the James Corden Zone for me sad to say, him and that baldy oval office who just shouts like he's in Dad's Army Andy Parsons?
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Jun 29, 2021 11:49
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serious gaylord posted:This is something I have read about Gove a lot. That he was actually a very competent minister as Environment secretary in that he actually listened to people that know what they're talking about as he didn't have a clue about the subject and actively tried to implement their ideas. Sorry to dig this up as I'm just catching up on the thread, but the other factor could have been that Cummings was his chief of staff at Education, so the attitude could have been strongly driven from him, as his views about going against experts, conventional wisdom, etc. are pretty well documented by now. He didn't follow Gove to other departments.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:49
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Jedit posted:I saw that tour and it was literal "ching chong Chinaman" stuff, so I wouldn't give him benefit of the doubt. From what I remember wasn't that him making fun of himself unable to speak Chinese?
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Jun 29, 2021 11:49
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Failed Imagineer posted:He is, he's in the James Corden Zone for me sad to say, him and that baldy oval office who just shouts like he's in Dad's Army Ah, steady on, Bridges isn't that bad to deserve to be in that company. He's just...you'll find a guy about as funny as Kevin in most Glasgow pubs in my experience
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Jun 29, 2021 11:52
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Failed Imagineer posted:He is, he's in the James Corden Zone for me sad to say, him and that baldy oval office who just shouts like he's in Dad's Army James Cordens popularity in America is mystifying
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Jun 29, 2021 11:53
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TheRat posted:Andy Parsons? Oh god he’s terrible, I instantly switch over if he ever appears on my TV
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Jun 29, 2021 11:54
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JollyBoyJohn posted:James Cordens popularity in America is mystifying Maybe it's his physical size? Every 'humorous' American movie I've seen has a large person as a comedy figure. In Egypt, it's people with cross-eyes who are apparently inately funny. (Older movies I mean, new movies -not comedies - are much better. Comedy essentially remains 'slapstick').
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Jun 29, 2021 11:55
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Josef bugman posted:I think Bill Bailey is quite good, if quiet and not very online. "Not online" is generally enough for me to assume someone's not a twat nowadays.
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Jun 29, 2021 11:57
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Noxville posted:Oh god he’s terrible, I instantly switch over if he ever appears on my TV I’m convinced he’s got some kompromat because he’s the single least funny person on tv including non comedians and the people on songs of praise. He’s aggressively dislikeable and unfunny.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:01
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Maybe it's his physical size? Every 'humorous' American movie I've seen has a large person as a comedy figure. americans have been tricked into finding british accents appealing and intelligent, often despite a preponderance of evidence to the contrary additionally he sings! in a car! with singers! clearly the pinnacle of entertainment.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:01
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goddamnedtwisto posted:"Not online" is generally enough for me to assume someone's not a twat nowadays. Oh dear, owning the entire thread in one fell swoop.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:01
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Jakabite posted:I’m convinced he’s got some kompromat because he’s the single least funny person on tv including non comedians and the people on songs of praise. He’s aggressively dislikeable and unfunny. He's repped by Off The Kerb though (https://offthekerb.com/artists/) who have a big stable of comedians. I understand that they often come as 'bundles' for quiz shows etc - you want an Alan Carr, Jo Brand, Romesh, Dara on your show? Sure, but you also have to take an Andy Parsons, Phil Jerrod, etc.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:06
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TheRat posted:Andy Parsons? I had to check this wasn't the guy who does Athletico Mince along with national treasure Bob Mortimer, because if ever there was someone who needed putting in the 'unfunny fucker coasting on coattails' bin... Anyway that's Andy Dawson.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:07
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You have to take a Tom Allen. The British public will continue to receive Tom Allen until morale improves.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:08
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josh04 posted:You have to take a Tom Allen. The British public will continue to receive Tom Allen until morale improves. He makes Professional Bake Off nigh unwatchable for me. You can always tell that Bake Off contestants find the host banter irritating when they're trying to concentrate, but he just comes off as nails on chalkboard. If I were a baker I'd be kicked off the show for screaming in his face after a few hours. I wonder how Andy Parsons got picked up by Kerb in the first place. Were they just desperate for talent at the time or does he know someone who knows someone?
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Jun 29, 2021 12:11
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JollyBoyJohn posted:James Cordens popularity in America is mystifying No, I get it. I hate it, but I get it. He has a very open and enthusiastic persona and still manages to pull off the everyman "Oh my god i can't believe I get to talk to you!" thing with his guests. The late-night talk show ecosystem is probably the most foreign thing to British viewers in American telly, but it's really big poo poo over there, and since the 90s it's been increasingly dominated by standups who all do the fake-sophisticated "I'm so much better and funnier than my guests" thing. Corden is very much the opposite of that. Also I'm *certain* that his size has something to do with it, he certainly looks a lot more like an average American than Conan O'Brien. (Also there's always been this weird pipeline of semi-obscure British entertainment figures getting unaccountably huge in America - John Oliver went from second-string panel show guest over here to The Daily Show at the height of its powers and now his own show, Craig Ferguson went from writing for Russ Abbott to earning $20M a year hosting his own talk show, plus you've got that whole thing of them just turning up in the States playing Americans - Idris Elba, Hugh Laurie, Damien Lewis, et. al.)
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Jun 29, 2021 12:11
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goddamnedtwisto posted:John Oliver went from second-string panel show guest over here to The Daily Show at the height of its powers and now his own show, I'm not sure that's entirely fair on Oliver tbh. He was fairly regular on british panelshows, and then did a lot of grinding smaller parts at the daily show before he got picked up on his own.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:14
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Is it just me or has he gotten more left wing over the years as well?
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Jun 29, 2021 12:17
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josh04 posted:You have to take a Tom Allen. The British public will continue to receive Tom Allen until morale improves. I was going to use him as an example originally! But then figured that as he hosts his own things then he can't count.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:17
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On the subject of unfunny fat people: Peter Kay can gently caress off, but does he get to choose the direction he fucks off in?
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Jun 29, 2021 12:19
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TheRat posted:I'm not sure that's entirely fair on Oliver tbh. He was fairly regular on british panelshows, and then did a lot of grinding smaller parts at the daily show before he got picked up on his own. The Bugle fell apart when he got too successful. Jedit posted:On the subject of unfunny fat people: Peter Kay can gently caress off, but does he get to choose the direction he fucks off in? GARLIC BREAD. GARLIC BREAD
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Jun 29, 2021 12:20
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Josef bugman posted:Is it just me or has he gotten more left wing over the years as well? Probably inevitable if you do as much deep research into that hosed up country as he's done over the years. Speaking of The Daily Show, didn't Jon Stewart recently come out as a full covid lab truther? Like full on madman?
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Jun 29, 2021 12:21
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stev posted:He makes Professional Bake Off nigh unwatchable for me. You can always tell that Bake Off contestants find the host banter irritating when they're trying to concentrate, but he just comes off as nails on chalkboard. If I were a baker I'd be kicked off the show for screaming in his face after a few hours. god i can't stand him on there, i just tend to skip forward when he starts going off
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Jun 29, 2021 12:21
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My parents once went to see Andy Parsons live and said he was more funny than he was on TV... which isn't really a compliment. Jo Brand's still good, right? I haven't missed anything with her 
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Jun 29, 2021 12:26
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NoneMoreNegative posted:I had to check this wasn't the guy who does Athletico Mince along with national treasure Bob Mortimer, because if ever there was someone who needed putting in the 'unfunny fucker coasting on coattails' bin... Also find Andy Hamilton to be pretty ooor generally. Maybe people called Andy shouldn’t be allowed to do comedy.
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Jun 29, 2021 12:27
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TheRat posted:Speaking of The Daily Show, didn't Jon Stewart recently come out as a full covid lab truther? Like full on madman? I read about it in the US thread and yeah. It sounded very weird. The fact that Colbert was kind of calling him out on it was pretty weird and unexpected.
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