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Do you prefer the extended summer thread format?
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Yes 126 44.21%
No 39 13.68%
I'm Scottish 120 42.11%
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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

WhatEvil posted:

Crowd at Wembley booing the German national anthem.

I don't go in for nationalism as a concept but loving hell I hate the English.

Booing the opposition's national anthem is A Thing that's been going on at every international for at least a decade, and much longer for certain matches.

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blunt
Jul 7, 2005

There's a bunch of different SCP games on steam now too, including quite a few free ones.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Beefeater1980 posted:

When did SCP really take off? My kids (11 and 9, Christ I’m old now) and their peer group are super into it, whereas to me it’s mildly interesting fanfiction-level stuff. There’s YouTube explainer videos now and everything.

Probably the better part of a decade now?

They're on the 5000 series articles now I think.

There's some very good stuff in it but also it struggles with the 3edgy5me roots a lot, and because it's collaborative and there is no single canon, the really good stuff with good ideas exists right next to the "the author is a serial killer" and just generally bad or unremarkable stuff.

Some of it also is just so far entrenched in its own canon that it's virtually incomprehensible.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Beefeater1980 posted:

When did SCP really take off? My kids (11 and 9, Christ I’m old now) and their peer group are super into it, whereas to me it’s mildly interesting fanfiction-level stuff. There’s YouTube explainer videos now and everything.

I don't know if it's directly related but back in the nineties there was an infamous website, accessible only by its IP address (which IIRC started 6.66 or 66.6) that had a bunch of text files similar to SCP. They had a rule in place that closed the connection if you had a referrer header (i.e. if you followed a link to get there) and a couple of other shenanigans as time went on like requiring weird authentication types or a specific user-agent header to let you in. I think it was gone by the late 90s, but I remember being completely freaked out by it the first time it ran around IRC.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

WhatEvil posted:

Crowd at Wembley booing the German national anthem.

I don't go in for nationalism as a concept but loving hell I hate the English.

Interesting discussion I was having the other day about UK nationalism:

- In Ireland and Scotland and Wales lots of people detest the Union Jack (butcher's apron etc) because it's associated with Britain but probably wouldn't have quite the same response to a St George Cross. The union jack is only really flown by staunch unionists who are usually relatively right-wing if not full-on Britnats.
- In England it's inverted. The Union Jack is everywhere is mostly just seen as an uncontroversial national symbol like the Saltire etc, and you get it on cushions and t-shirts and plastered all over the place but very few people are vocally opposed to it (outside of a minority of lefties who understand the history). It certainly doesn't have the same political nationalist connotations as it does in the rest of the UK in mainstream discourse. The St George Cross, on the other hand, does - that's what your scary fashy types are going to be flying.

I think a good way of putting this is I would avoid a pub covered in Union Jacks here in Scotland like the plague (except maybe in Edinburgh, because you know) and I'd be fine going to one covered in Saltires, but cross the border and the rules go backwards - I'd avoid a pub covered in St George Crosses in England just the same, but probably be OK with a place flying a few union jacks.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Bobstar posted:

Also I have realised that my Youtube list is almost all men and 100% white, so any tips on people who aren't those things, who have interesting things to say in video form, gratefully received!

If you like horror movies, Nyx Fears is a great youtuber on that whole subject. Funny as hell too.

As for Spaced, the universal algorithm/jaffa cakes gag is maybe the single greatest sitcom joke of all time.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Booing the opposition's national anthem is A Thing that's been going on at every international for at least a decade, and much longer for certain matches.

The only anthem I remember being booed by any number at Hampden is God Save The Queen. And maybe the Lichtenstein anthem that has the same tune as GSTQ

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

JollyBoyJohn posted:

I went to see that in the cinema and it was awful. Not even in the "I don't like this but I can see why others would" just straight up ridicule from my party of 4.

What a weird movie

i thoroughly enjoyed it and find it underrated tbh

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

forkboy84 posted:

The only anthem I remember being booed by any number at Hampden is God Save The Queen. And maybe the Lichtenstein anthem that has the same tune as GSTQ

Maybe that's the reason? After unification, the Kaiserreich duplicated the melody of GSTQ for their own new anthem. To the surprise of British soldiers in the trenches, who at first thought the Germans were loving with them every time the German anthem started playing over there

My theory is, the sheer indignation the British soldiers suffered causes their descendants to boo the German anthem, whenever they hear it, purely on instinct.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
E: nm, I'm just in a grotty mood

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

SCP has, and has had, a bunch of stuff that is novel when you see it for the first time. It started out with the moving statue one on 4chan and I think to some extent that's the best stuff, the document is short and hints at being part of a much bigger thing (it's number 173, which implies more) and there's a lot of loose threads, and it existed out of context and not on the wiki, so there's a lot unsaid for you to fill in yourself.

As it took off initially it was a lot of super grimdark "hell yeah we kill fifty zillion prisoners a day to keep this murder torture god in prison" type poo poo and also a bunch of self insert super cool dudes who work there (and a bunch of super cool dudes who are contained). And there was still a bunch of the novel stuff coming out then I think which benefitted from not being super well explained.

Over time though the site itself has shifted a lot in tone, and as it's gotten wider appeal a lot of people have started to use the setting to write actually cool political themed stuff. There's a whole set of entries that are about an online anomalous anarchist collective who see the foundation as basically being cops, and it does interesting things with the idea of how while anomalies are inherently dangerous they are also necessarily a tool for insurrectionary forces because they are one of the few sources of power that are handed out basically randomly by chance. And what the foundation really represents isn't humanity's wellbeing but simply a form of institutional control, a form of control that might indeed stop people from being eaten by horrible supernatural monsters but which is entirely happy with mundane horrors.

There's also more writing that looks at the foundation as an institution and asks whether it would not also have internal problems, while it's generally portrayed as competent and even the best option in many cases, it's absolutely got problems and a lot of good writing I think has a distinctly anti-authoritarian bent to it, questioning whether the spooky council of long serving foundation people, half of whom are anomalous themselves, is actually well suited to deciding what is and isn't normal.

I quite like kenowhere as an example. The format is a bit hard to parse if you aren't already kind of familiar with the characters and weird formats generally, but the actual story is both sweet and sad.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!

mediaphage posted:

i thoroughly enjoyed it and find it underrated tbh

There's always one

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Gorn Myson posted:

I'm fairly certain that someone in this thread, or used to be in this thread, had a dilemma years ago where Reginald D Hunter was trying to hook up with his wife.

I remember this but not who it was.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ThomasPaine posted:

Interesting discussion I was having the other day about UK nationalism:

- In Ireland and Scotland and Wales lots of people detest the Union Jack (butcher's apron etc) because it's associated with Britain but probably wouldn't have quite the same response to a St George Cross. The union jack is only really flown by staunch unionists who are usually relatively right-wing if not full-on Britnats.
- In England it's inverted. The Union Jack is everywhere is mostly just seen as an uncontroversial national symbol like the Saltire etc, and you get it on cushions and t-shirts and plastered all over the place but very few people are vocally opposed to it (outside of a minority of lefties who understand the history). It certainly doesn't have the same political nationalist connotations as it does in the rest of the UK in mainstream discourse. The St George Cross, on the other hand, does - that's what your scary fashy types are going to be flying.

I think a good way of putting this is I would avoid a pub covered in Union Jacks here in Scotland like the plague (except maybe in Edinburgh, because you know) and I'd be fine going to one covered in Saltires, but cross the border and the rules go backwards - I'd avoid a pub covered in St George Crosses in England just the same, but probably be OK with a place flying a few union jacks.
:same:

Point two didn't always used to be the case though.

Compare and contrast fash in the 70s

with fash in the 2010s

fully correlated with the rise of the "I'm English not British" fash mantra.

OwlFancier posted:

There's also more writing that looks at the foundation as an institution and asks whether it would not also have internal problems, while it's generally portrayed as competent and even the best option in many cases, it's absolutely got problems and a lot of good writing I think has a distinctly anti-authoritarian bent to it, questioning whether the spooky council of long serving foundation people, half of whom are anomalous themselves, is actually well suited to deciding what is and isn't normal.
I like the 'Foundation as State' take on normalcy. Presumably the various British and European chapters classify the moving houses that sometimes appear near the village green as an existential threat.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

JollyBoyJohn posted:

There's always one

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

I like the 'Foundation as State' take on normalcy. Presumably the various British and European chapters classify the moving houses that sometimes appear near the village green as an existential threat.

I think you would really enjoy kenowhere, i'm rereading it now and it occurs to me that it is probably something that most people outside this thread wouldn't actually get, such a good piece of writing for showing what different ideas of "normal" are. And how systems of control and environments that we exist in shape what we think of as normal.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


The crowd is definitely very nationalist, in a way it hasn't been for the last couple matches.

Probably since it's past the qualifiers, before a single match wouldn't matter that much.

They're openly booing the Germans every time they touch the ball.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They want you to believe that touching the ball is just about playing football, but it's actually part of a divisive Marxist agenda.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I sort of get the impression he just made enough money to live comfortably and then stopped.He still tours small venues and I think released a DVD a few years ago but honestly, don't blame him.

The average person not wanting to involve themselves with the shitshow that is apology culture does not make them transphobic. Where do you suggest he post the apology, with Linehan's legal team removing google results linking his surname with the word transphobia?

He fell out with Fox after his QT appearance and has never personally said anything transphobic. I think that's about as good as you can expect from your average person.

As far as voice acting goes, most people don't get the slightest info about their characters before they sign a binding contract, especially new actors. Marisha Ray has talked about getting ripped off by being paid scale for 'a soldier in a multiplayer game' only to find it was the female stormtrooper in StarWars Battlefront. Laura Bailey accused of 'stealing work' from POC after accepting a voice role that turned out to be Nadine in Uncharted when she was literally given a casting that said 'female voice' and was later turned latinx.

(E: my point being that Ayoade was likely given a brief of 'funny onion' and locked into a contract, and the same probably happened with the IT crowd. It can be bankruptcy expensive for an actor to leave a contract).

I really don't think this is a situation where you can imply tory or transphobic motives onto Ayoade without the kind of lovely guilt by association nonsense that idiots like Piers Morgan rely on to make the progressive left look bad.

Your point about new actors not having much clue might be right but it is absolutely not the case for someone like Ayoade. I'd be extremely surprised if his agent wasn't sent the script, series bible, character outlines etc before he committed. (I work in film and to a lesser degree TV, so I know a bit about this). It is also very unlikely that someone signed on without knowing what the role was for any actor playing any kind of major or significant supporting role in a TV show, regardless of their experience.

Private Speech posted:

The crowd is definitely very nationalist, in a way it hasn't been for the last couple matches.

Probably since it's past the qualifiers, before a single match wouldn't matter that much.

They're openly booing the Germans every time they touch the ball.



The fact that it's Germany doesn't help. It's pathetic how this country has to hearken back to 1966 or WWII to find some moment of which it feels it can be proud. 1966 as 55 loving years ago. Move on.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Private Speech posted:

The crowd is definitely very nationalist, in a way it hasn't been for the last couple matches.

Probably since it's past the qualifiers, before a single match wouldn't matter that much.

They're openly booing the Germans every time they touch the ball.

Last tournament there were complaints from pretty much everyone about the insane repetitive chanting of the England crowd, it got picked up on that these were not normal football chants, they were chants from people who had never been to a game in their lives.

The theory is that the normal working classes and younger people have been priced out and now it’s pure triple locked gammon there to be with their people.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!

Private Speech posted:

The crowd is definitely very nationalist, in a way it hasn't been for the last couple matches.

Probably since it's past the qualifiers, before a single match wouldn't matter that much.

They're openly booing the Germans every time they touch the ball.

Is this the first time some of you have seen a football match lol

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


JollyBoyJohn posted:

Is this the first time some of you have seen a football match lol

On the other hand I watched all of the ones that England played in this tournament.

But go on.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
England booing Germany is even less surprising than England playing like poo poo

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!

Private Speech posted:

On the other hand I watched all of the ones that England played in this tournament.

But go on.

if you think this is booing you should watch an old firm game lol

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jaeluni Asjil posted:


There was a guy did an owl impression that was hilarious - I think he was called Chris or something like that.

Oh dear! Quizzed the friend I went with and it turns out owlman was Chris Langham who did time for downloading child pornography.
Hmph.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


JollyBoyJohn posted:

if you think this is booing you should watch an old firm game lol

I mean if that's your metric

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Private Speech posted:

The crowd is definitely very nationalist, in a way it hasn't been for the last couple matches.

Probably since it's past the qualifiers, before a single match wouldn't matter that much.

They're openly booing the Germans every time they touch the ball.

Thats not nationalism you massive blanket. Its the same as the Spanish & Italian fans whistling the opposition, its just what they do.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!

Private Speech posted:

I mean if that's your metric

lmao sorry I wasn't intending to be shirty its just I found the booing between England and Germany both stand and and tame at the same time

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Guavanaut posted:


with fash in the 2010s

fully correlated with the rise of the "I'm English not British" fash mantra.

I like the 'Foundation as State' take on normalcy. Presumably the various British and European chapters classify the moving houses that sometimes appear near the village green as an existential threat.

lool that's a northern ireland fleg flying third from right :cripes:

if i was in them flats i would throw dirty kitty litter on them

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Cam
on
Enger lannd
Score some facking goals!

J/k. I put :10bux: on Germany

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
dootschland dootschland uber englaaaaand dooo dooo doooooo dooooooo dooo doo-doo-doooooooo

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i have just realised that bit after deutschland deutschland in the german national anthem sounds a bit like the bit in kool and the gang's celebrate good times :dance:

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz & Paul are fun.... World's End is a load of shite. :colbert:

Really need to have a look on YT for the Fast Show which i always found very funny; Jesse's Diets: "This week.....i been mostly giving blowjobs".

Scorchio! :sun:

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Being fair I think the crowd calmed down a bit for the second half.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
can't wait for germany's decisive goal in the last minute of extra time

or maybe a fun penalty shootout where we one of our dudes falls over the ball

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

SCP has, and has had, a bunch of stuff that is novel when you see it for the first time. It started out with the moving statue one on 4chan and I think to some extent that's the best stuff, the document is short and hints at being part of a much bigger thing (it's number 173, which implies more) and there's a lot of loose threads, and it existed out of context and not on the wiki, so there's a lot unsaid for you to fill in yourself.

I like the ones that are slightly tongue-in-cheek and straddle the line between spooky and sad. Like the irritable haunted ice cream truck (http://www.scpwiki.com/scp-1386) although I've no idea what the ending is about with that one. Or the sack of infinite potatoes (http://www.scpwiki.com/scp-1689) that turns out to be a portal to a destroyed alternate earth

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Potato sack is very good yes.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

ThomasPaine posted:

can't wait for germany's decisive goal in the last minute of extra time

or maybe a fun penalty shootout where we one of our dudes falls over the ball

It'll be the latter and it'll be Declan Rice, I just have a feeling in my bones.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


The antiemetics division SCP stories are pretty well written and delve into some nicely creepy ideas http://www.scpwiki.com/antimemetics-division-hub

They're much better than this game!!!

Edit: yessssssss I tempted fate in a good way for once

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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
oh wow

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