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Given the very shallow pool at the top, it's the lower rank picks that really showcase fantasy sumo prowess
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Halloween Jack posted:Are any of you sumo purists who don't feel like you're really watching sumo without several minutes of standing up, walking away, foot stomping, salt throwing, and chicken scratching? I like to see it for the big matches, but mostly I'm happy to see Kintamayama's super-condensed digest version. (I don't feel like cutting the slow parts of matches is necessary, though.) I’m one of those weirdos watching Karla’s stream from neverending Jonidan until English coverage begins when I have the time. If I have to work in the morning I’ll watch the digest versions, but if you enjoy the sport it really is a different world in the lower ranks. The pace is MUCH faster since there’s no salt throwing unless someone gets hurt and a disturbing lack of mawashi slapping and yeah, most guys down there aren’t going anywhere but the flip side is you see guys like Atamifuji, Hakuseiho, or Ishizaki on their way up. You can also see Ura and Terunofuji (and a lot of has beens that will never be again to be fair) on their way back along with some amazing matches if for no other reason than the law of large numbers exists. You also get to know the fun, but pretty bad guys like the world’s oldest 30 year old Oazuma and my man “mountain” Dewanojo. If nothing else, watching the lower level rikishi do their thing really lets you appreciate the size and speed that it takes me to make it to the salaried ranks.
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Jun 29, 2021 22:54
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Looking up Dewanojo led me to here, in case anyone ever needs to know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_heaviest_sumo_wrestlers
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Jun 29, 2021 23:28
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After a year of watching, finally remembered to do this in time. Hopefully I did it right. Y/O: Terunofuji / Hakuho / Asanoyama S/K: Wakatakakage / Meisei / Mitakeumi M1-M5: Kotoeko / Daieisho / Hoshoryu M6-M10: Aoiyama / Terutsuyoshi / Ichinojo M11+: Tokushoryu / Ishiura / Chiyonoo I wanna get one of those little name banners to hold up… Eli949 fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Jun 30, 2021 00:47
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Translation of an interview with one of Hakuho's specialist docs: https://twitter.com/SumoFollower/status/1410031131316178947?s=20quote:Interview with Hakuho's orthopedist: He says the Yokozuna will make it to day 1. But he doesn't know yet if he can do all 15 days "as he fights with big opponents". He says Hakuho has been unable to climb stairs at first, bt gradually started practice, first with Sandanme, then, since last week, with Ishiura and Enho. He is practicing 3 days and resting one. He did very detailed rehab - how to use his heels, how to use his toes, the right way to do shiko. They have an outdoors space at the hospital for rehab, so Hakuho brought some dohyo dirt from Miyagino beya as the sensation was important to him. The knee is doing well, fluids have stopped accumulating in t two weeks ago. It's just a question of holding up for 15 days. That really doesn't sound great, still. 
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Jun 30, 2021 01:30
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Halloween Jack posted:Are any of you sumo purists who don't feel like you're really watching sumo without several minutes of standing up, walking away, foot stomping, salt throwing, and chicken scratching? I like to see it for the big matches, but mostly I'm happy to see Kintamayama's super-condensed digest version. (I don't feel like cutting the slow parts of matches is necessary, though.) I really like all the ceremony and the psychological game involved. If I can watch live, I will. If I'm just catching up on the results because I couldn't watch live, I like the condensed version.
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Jun 30, 2021 01:37
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Said it before and I’ll say it again: It’s going to be so weird if he has to pull out but then turn around and do the dohyo-iri at the olympics. Where optics are concerned he’s kind of between a rock and a hard place. He can’t pull out to avoid a Yokozuna-makekoshi citing injury and then go stomping around on his supposedly lovely knee in front of a world audience without being (rightfully) called out on it. So if he does stink up the ring I can’t see him staying in to a losing record. And I guess the worst case scenario would be that he actually DOES gently caress up his knee and CAN’T do the opening ceremonies. I kind of see anything short of a dominating performance playing out as a withdrawal due to an unrelated injury like tweaked back or something, announcing his retirement effective the end of the Olympics or something, then going out and doing the opening ceremony. Alternately if there’s some technicality where he can’t do Yokozuna stuff after announcing intention to retire, then just announce that after the Olympics end. Or option two I guess is “gently caress the NSK and YDC” and just pull out, do the olympics, and compete in September until they pull him from the hanamichi with one of those old vaudeville canes.
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Jun 30, 2021 02:13
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Eh, when guys pull out it's not like it's expected that they're completely paralyzed and can't move, just that they can't fight competitively, sometimes they even come back later in the tournament. What does being called out about doing the dohyo-iri while being injured actually mean? They're gonna ask him to retire? If he pulls out of this tournament he's doing that anyway.
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Jun 30, 2021 02:26
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The only thing Hak has left to worry about is his standing within the NSK when he does retire. They can't really touch him as a wrestler, but assuming he wants to play the political game and have some influence, he can't gently caress around too much and burn bridges with the group he wants to join up with and eventually have a leadership role in.
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Jun 30, 2021 02:39
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Yeah I think ultimately maybe that’s why I think it’s a bad look to withdraw and turn around and go do the opening ceremonies. The fact that it’s so close to the basho is just what makes it. I guess, yes, you could say “his knee was bad and render him noncompetitive in an actual bout but not bad enough to prevent him from doing dohyo-iri” and it may even be the truth but the optics just feel like he’s thumbing his nose at the NSK by doing things “his way” again. But those guys already don’t seem to like him so probably yeah you’re right, he’ll just withdraw and do the ceremonies anyway and they’ll wag their fingers and demand his resignation which he will and we’ll forget all about it because he was still the greatest yokozuna there was.
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Jun 30, 2021 03:01
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He and his stable will become rebel outlaws who show up randomly to thwart the sumo association, like Robinhood but for sumo.
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Jun 30, 2021 03:04
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Buttchocks posted:He and his stable will become rebel outlaws who show up randomly to thwart the sumo association, like Robinhood but for sumo. Takanohana already tried that and he was driven off. And he was the undisputed Golden Boy of his era.
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Jun 30, 2021 03:13
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The dohyo-iri is not particularly strenuous compared to an actual match, I'll totally buy that his knee will hold together for ~3 leg stamps and some shuffling but will fall apart in an actual fight.
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Jun 30, 2021 03:17
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That squatting and shuffling is way harder when you have 15-20kg rope belt around your waist though.
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Jun 30, 2021 12:07
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Martytoof posted:Yeah I think ultimately maybe that’s why I think it’s a bad look to withdraw and turn around and go do the opening ceremonies. The fact that it’s so close to the basho is just what makes it. I guess, yes, you could say “his knee was bad and render him noncompetitive in an actual bout but not bad enough to prevent him from doing dohyo-iri” and it may even be the truth but the optics just feel like he’s thumbing his nose at the NSK by doing things “his way” again. Hakuho now has Japanese citizenship entirely to take over his stable after he's finished with his career, so anything remotely close to "rocking the boat" isn't going to happen. the real thing to watch out for is COVID, as the number is going up again in Tokyo. Highest total in over a month reported today. Halloween Jack posted:Are any of you sumo purists who don't feel like you're really watching sumo without several minutes of standing up, walking away, foot stomping, salt throwing, and chicken scratching? I like to see it for the big matches, but mostly I'm happy to see Kintamayama's super-condensed digest version. (I don't feel like cutting the slow parts of matches is necessary, though.) it's cool live when I went before because it made the pace almost like watching American football, where you see the pre-match and focus on the actual match but have plenty of time to chat with others about what y'all just saw.
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Jun 30, 2021 12:36
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This is why I love watching the top division time shifted on my grey market Japanese IPTV feed. Just two hours on NHK.
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Jun 30, 2021 15:49
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Y/O: Terunofuji/Hakuho/Takakeisho S/K: Wakatakakage/Mitakeumi/Meisei M1-M5: Takanosho/Hokutofuji/Hoshoryu M6-M10: AOIYAMA/Kiribayama/Tamawashi M11+: Ura/Ichiyamamoto/Tochinoshin Banana Canada fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Jun 30, 2021 18:41
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Have a video of a smiling Terunofuji answering humorous questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hceJwvjqy3w
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Jun 30, 2021 21:12
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Chinook posted:Have a video of a smiling Terunofuji answering humorous questions: Here's Enho, and yes....it's shorter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGL_w41_yRQ
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Jul 1, 2021 02:21
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I just got around to watching Enho's. Take the translation with a grain of salt. Many of the subtitles are inaccurate: he wants to be able to fillet a lot of fish, not sell it; he cooks Hamburg steak--like Salisbury steak--not hamburgers; he stretches first thing in the morning--he doesn't take it easy). This is Kintamayama's shtick, to some extent.
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Jul 1, 2021 02:40
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My tegata of Tochinoshin's mighty left hand and AOIYAMA's powerful right arrived today  I like the splatters on Tochinoshin's. Slapping hard on the tegata boards. Shiroc fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jul 1, 2021 |
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Jul 1, 2021 03:57
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Hirayuki posted:I just got around to watching Enho's. Take the translation with a grain of salt. Many of the subtitles are inaccurate: he wants to be able to fillet a lot of fish, not sell it; he cooks Hamburg steak--like Salisbury steak--not hamburgers; he stretches first thing in the morning--he doesn't take it easy). This is Kintamayama's shtick, to some extent. So Teru was misquoted when he said “Terumania’s runnin’ wild BROTHA!”?
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Jul 1, 2021 04:28
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I've ordered some printed tegata from bigsumofan.com, and I love 'em. I've also ordered a picture banzuke, and those are super cool.
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Jul 1, 2021 04:52
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Even with the duwang subtitles Enho still came across as adorable. Come back to Makuuichi!!!!
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Jul 1, 2021 04:56
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Martytoof posted:So Teru was misquoted when he said “Terumania’s runnin’ wild BROTHA!”? Dias posted:Even with the duwang subtitles Enho still came across as adorable. Come back to Makuuichi!!!! 
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Jul 1, 2021 19:46
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Y/O: Terunofuji / Takakeisho / Hakuho S/K: Wakatakakage / Mitakeumi / Meisei M1-M5: Endo / Hoshoryu / Daiesho M6-M10: Terutsuyoshi / Aoiyama / Kiribayama M11+: Ura / Ishiura / Kotonowaka I know I swore off Endo a few bashos ago but Hak is back and there are two potential yokozuna runs happening so his powers should be at full charge. Charles Gnarwin fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Jul 2, 2021 05:31
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Charles Gnarwin posted:I know I swore off Endo a few bashos ago but Hak is back and there are two potential yokozuna runs happening so his powers should be at full charge. Endo yusho in the middle of all this would be incredible
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Jul 2, 2021 06:02
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Charles Gnarwin posted:I know I swore off Endo a few bashos ago but Hak is back and there are two potential yokozuna runs happening so his powers should be at full charge. whats for dinner posted:Endo yusho in the middle of all this would be incredible 
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Jul 2, 2021 06:08
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Takayasu has officially withdrawn. Sumo twitter is saying it's his back. That's probably it for his shot at returning to Ozeki, sadly. Day 1 matches are also out. Takakeisho fights Daieisho, Hak's got Meisei, and Terunofuji... is up against Endo. Could be a dangerous day 1 for the Kaiju.
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Jul 2, 2021 06:32
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ANYONE WHO HAS TAKAYASU IN THEIR PICKS Please do the following: a) edit your original post b) make a new post saying you've done so Thanks for helping out, with 50+ people participating I'm reorganizing how I do the draft. I've also got some friends helping me make a more stable fantasy sumo tool for the future. Incidentally, since there are only 3 people in the s/k ranks this tournament we'll be letting half the field share an s/k pick.
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Jul 2, 2021 06:42
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I had to check but Takayasu did not make the cuteness draft. who could've guessed
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Jul 2, 2021 06:46
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Swapped out Takayasu for less hairy but hopefully still successful choices
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Jul 2, 2021 07:09
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Kenning posted:ANYONE WHO HAS TAKAYASU IN THEIR PICKS Changed from Wakatakakage/Mitakeumi/Takayasu to Wakatakakage/Mitakeumi/Meisei.
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Jul 2, 2021 07:11
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Sadly removed TAKAYASU, added the spiritual successor of Goeido on san'yaku disappointment, Mitakeumi, if I have to, I guess.
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Jul 2, 2021 07:15
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Went back and edited my post, made a note there too
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Jul 2, 2021 07:15
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Edited mine, though Takayasu was my 3rd pick so it's kind of obvious what gets slotted in there  Day 2 torikumi is up as well, Endo getting Hakuho on day 2, Terunofuji fights Wakatakakage. Should be a good first couple of days.
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Jul 2, 2021 07:27
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removed the hairy guy from my picks unfortunately
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Jul 2, 2021 08:13
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Changed my post.
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Jul 2, 2021 08:17
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Edited my picks as well
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Edited my previous post as requested
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