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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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I don't have to boycott Toyota for giving money to the chuds I can just continue to boycott them because literally every single car that they make that isn't a 4x4 has at least one counterpart in the Honda/Subaru/Mazda stables that is exponentially more desirable. Or a Bimmer in the case of the Supra. hell even the BRZ just implicitly gets more respect than the 86 and they're the exact same car (to say nothing of the FRS, goddamn. Talk about losing like $4k in value vs your identical twin all because Toyota insisted it needed to carry a "Scion" badge)
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Jul 1, 2021 18:56
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I see a fuckton of 86/BRZ/FRS on the road I have no idea what you are smoking and honestly a lot of Supras too for the meh product that it is. Why would people be buying 2020/2021 86's though when the second generation has been announced with a whole boatload of improvements along with it being expected to be coming for a while before it was official?
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Jul 1, 2021 19:16
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What are you talking about, the Scion brand is synonymous with racing pedigree 
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Jul 1, 2021 19:17
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Applebees Appetizer posted:What are you talking about, the Scion brand is synonymous with racing pedigree gonna race my tC against your xB to taco bell
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Jul 1, 2021 19:23
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TheBacon posted:I see a fuckton of 86/BRZ/FRS on the road I have no idea what you are smoking and honestly a lot of Supras too for the meh product that it is. they aren't selling any 2021s, they simply kept selling the 2020 model until they ran out of inventory like a month or two ago
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Jul 1, 2021 19:58
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BraveUlysses posted:they aren't selling any 2021s, they simply kept selling the 2020 model until they ran out of inventory like a month or two ago This even better helps make my point! Lmao
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Jul 1, 2021 22:25
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TheBacon posted:I see a fuckton of 86/BRZ/FRS on the road I have no idea what you are smoking and honestly a lot of Supras too for the meh product that it is. they're the sort of person who bought into the idea that Miatas were for gay dudes to the point that they'll buy an objectively worse car because no homo
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Jul 2, 2021 06:44
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What if GTI but smol? https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/polo-gti/203827/2021-volkswagen-polo-gti-revealed-ford-fiesta-st-rival-gets-a-makeover
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Jul 2, 2021 07:33
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Ok Comboomer posted:they're the sort of person who bought into the idea that Miatas were for gay dudes to the point that they'll buy an objectively worse car because no homo
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Jul 2, 2021 14:10
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Oh nm I guess you can keep buying miatas.
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Jul 2, 2021 14:11
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I traded in my 2014 FiST for 500 less than I paid for it 5 years ago. So long hot hatch bros.
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Jul 2, 2021 19:30
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Nevermind
Pine Cone Jones fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Jul 2, 2021 23:24
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The RS got some Mountune upgrades. New triple pass radiator and intercooler. The intercooler is thicc!
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Jul 3, 2021 00:18
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Korbin posted:I traded in my 2014 FiST for 500 less than I paid for it 5 years ago. So long hot hatch bros. I recently traded my Si coupe—okay it’s not a hatch, but it handled like a hotty—for 10k after buying it for 13 and putting 30k miles on it. Of course I got screwed on the final price on the new car, but seeing that trade in value made me feel like Donny Deals
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Jul 4, 2021 16:53
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Deviant posted:stop talking about teslas
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Jul 4, 2021 22:41
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You're a whole page late. Good job.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:41
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Blue Footed Booby posted:You're a whole page late. Good job. thank you that helps a lot
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Jul 5, 2021 19:21
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I took the FiST for its first long haul journey and had everyone I know drive it. We: got stuck in some sand, roasted the tires, and found the painful reality of 5 mph traffic on 75 south. My clutch leg is sore. All in all, it performed admirably. Passed quite a few incorrigibles on the freeway that refused to leave the left lane. My old man was suitably impressed, and that alone made me smile.
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Jul 6, 2021 02:11
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Passed the 1600km break in point on my GTI on the highway and immediately went WOT. It's good. Am I supposed to get an oil change after the break in? I don't think the manual says to but I know some VW forum guys say yes.
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Jul 6, 2021 02:47
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prom candy posted:Passed the 1600km break in point on my GTI on the highway and immediately went WOT. It's good. Am I supposed to get an oil change after the break in? I don't think the manual says to but I know some VW forum guys say yes. I would. I mean, wouldn't hurt and you're out the cost of an oil change.
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Jul 6, 2021 14:25
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it's a holdover from back in the day when a new engine would dump out a few grams of metal as it wore in, which they don't now - but if it makes you feel better, it's cheap peace of mind and won't hurt anything.
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Jul 6, 2021 14:53
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Huge_Midget posted:The RS got some Mountune upgrades. New triple pass radiator and intercooler. The intercooler is thicc! How bad is the stock IC on the Focus RS? On the ST it's one of the first things you want to do if you're thinking about tuning as it's so easy to get to and the stock one is so mediocre. Only hiccup in getting the front fascia off on mine was the fact that whoever put the front license plate holder on managed to blind rivet straight through not only the license plate and fascia but also the plastic bumper underneath- had to drill out the rivets lol
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Jul 6, 2021 17:00
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prom candy posted:Passed the 1600km break in point on my GTI on the highway and immediately went WOT. It's good. Am I supposed to get an oil change after the break in? I don't think the manual says to but I know some VW forum guys say yes. I changed mine at 1000 miles and didn't notice anything in the oil or on the filter. Doesn't hurt to do anyway and the oil change on these cars is insanely easy.
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Jul 6, 2021 17:44
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Monkey Fracas posted:How bad is the stock IC on the Focus RS? On the ST it's one of the first things you want to do if you're thinking about tuning as it's so easy to get to and the stock one is so mediocre. The stock intercooler is actually pretty good. It’s a parts bin part from one of the Euro models of the Transit, and is apparently efficient enough at the stock power levels that Ford puts a blanking plate piece of thick vinyl over one side of the intercooler to prevent condensation buildup in extremely humid climates. It’s definitely one of the largest factory intercoolers I’ve seen on any passenger car. It’s a tube and fin design with plastic end tanks though so it is prone to heat soaking, while the new Mountune intercooler is a bar and plate design with cast aluminum end tanks. Lots of RS owners run the stock intercooler without the blanking plate and that’s good for ~400 horsepower at the crank.
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Jul 6, 2021 22:25
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Is a 10th Gen Civic Sport a hot hatch? Warm hatch? Well, regardless, it’s currently the #1 contender because that transmission + engine combo is excellent and so easy to live with I got stuck in like 25 minutes of stop+go just marveling at how good the brake hold was vs everybody else
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Jul 6, 2021 23:17
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hot hatch is a state of mind
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Jul 6, 2021 23:41
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Deviant posted:hot hatch is a state of mind I mean, it’s definitely no GTI but at least the running costs seem way lower, and nobody’s telling me poo poo like “you should include space in your budget for when the water pump dies, and also maybe the turbocharger”
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Jul 7, 2021 00:22
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Look in to the AC issues.
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Jul 7, 2021 00:29
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BlackMK4 posted:Look in to the AC issues. The one I’m looking at just got the recall service done, but yeah, my roommate gave me the heads up. Tbh, it’s not *that much cheaper than the GTIs I was looking at, but it just seems like it’d be much cheaper to run for the next 2-3 years
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Jul 7, 2021 00:32
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Hhhmm, JB4 tune coming for Mazda turbos: https://burgertuning.com/products/jb4-tuner-for-mazda?variant=37638730449070 Really want to test drive the hatchback, but really limited availability. What I do see though seems like good pricing for what you get. Styles Bitchley fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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Jul 7, 2021 01:02
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Ok Comboomer posted:Is a 10th Gen Civic Sport a hot hatch? Warm hatch? Well, regardless, it’s currently the #1 contender because that transmission + engine combo is excellent and so easy to live with I have a 2020 6spd Sport Hatch and I loving love it and can't wait to run the warranty down so I can flash it. I know the styling is contentious but I love it.
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Jul 7, 2021 01:09
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Fart Car '97 posted:I have a 2020 6spd Sport Hatch and I loving love it and can't wait to run the warranty down so I can flash it. I know the styling is contentious but I love it. wanna put a gundam sticker on that boot
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Jul 7, 2021 02:22
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This is the best thing you could ever do to a Civic.
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Jul 7, 2021 03:49
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Huge_Midget posted:This is the best thing you could ever do to a Civic. the 9th gen Civic has a mini HDMI in the center console for you to run what-have-you through the lovely entertainment unit screen
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Jul 7, 2021 04:19
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Ok Comboomer posted:Is a 10th Gen Civic Sport a hot hatch? Warm hatch? Well, regardless, it’s currently the #1 contender because that transmission + engine combo is excellent and so easy to live with You can tune the 1.5T to pretty respectable numbers. The oil dilution issue was somewhat scary to me, they claimed they fixed it with an ECU update but there was a lot of talk about how short trips and cold weather were bad for that engine and I do a lot of both. AFAIK it's Honda's first turbo engine so the idea that you're getting Honda super reliability may not line up if there's some sort of issue down the road. But they've been selling them since 2016, so they're probably fine. I never drove the hatch but the clutch in the Si was extremely livable and the stock shifting was pretty solid. The infotainment loving sucks in those cars though. Slow and crashy, rear view camera sucks and gets filthy immediately in wet weather, lanewatch is a stupid gimmick. The whole "no volume knob" controversy was a red herring because the real issue is that the entire system is garbage. I traded my 10th gen Si for my GTI and the GTI is a better car in pretty much every way. The Si felt slightly more planted in turns, that's about the only thing that you could say was better about it and even that's debatable because it came at the expense of daily driving comfort. Also gently caress what anyone says the 10th gen civics look cool.
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Jul 7, 2021 04:38
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What’s this about GTIs and setting aside money for scheduled blow ups? Also savagegeese just did a video on the Mk. 8 a few days ago: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DKPALLEVzEs
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Jul 7, 2021 05:22
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prom candy posted:AFAIK it's Honda's first turbo engine In modern times sure 
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Jul 7, 2021 05:23
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prom candy posted:AFAIK it's Honda's first turbo engine so the idea that you're getting Honda super reliability may not line up if there's some sort of issue down the road. But they've been selling them since 2016, so they're probably fine. RDX in 2007 was the first modern Honda turbo in the US.
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Jul 7, 2021 05:43
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Warbird posted:What’s this about GTIs and setting aside money for scheduled blow ups? Also savagegeese just did a video on the Mk. 8 a few days ago: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DKPALLEVzEs The EA888 is a pretty reliable engine these days but there's still things like turbos randomly letting go. I don't think failure rates are higher than any other turbo engine but it still happens. The expected things you will definitely have to replace before 100k are the waterpump and the pcv.
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Jul 7, 2021 13:37
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Styles Bitchley posted:Hhhmm, JB4 tune coming for Mazda turbos: I'm also big hot for the 2.5T and this is making it easier to not think about other more powerful cars in the class, but: Warbird posted:What if GTI but smol? vw pls bring this across the pond, thanks and amen 
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