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Sammus posted:Yes but unless the power of love can stop a moon crashing into a planet, what does it matter to the timeline if they love each other? The only event that was about to occur that could alter the timeline is the deaths of Loki and Sylvie. One of them or both of them aren't supposed to die yet according to the timeline. Note that the branch appears to have self-pruned once they were safe. Who's to say that would've even killed them? Loki is pretty tough, he gets thrashed by the Hulk and is seemingly uninjured being walked in handcuffs through the building's lobby shortly after. Thor can survive floating around in space fine and I don't recall this myself since it's been awhile since I've seen the first Thor movie but someone mentioned earlier that Loki falls off Asgard and is presumably picked up in space by Thanos' crew.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:This is my only exposure to that show That was cool, but this was the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdmVW53Bhd0
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:Who's to say that would've even killed them? Loki is pretty tough, he gets thrashed by the Hulk and is seemingly uninjured being walked in handcuffs through the building's lobby shortly after. Thor can survive floating around in space fine and I don't recall this myself since it's been awhile since I've seen the first Thor movie but someone mentioned earlier that Loki falls off Asgard and is presumably picked up in space by Thanos' crew. Yeah, Loki can survive being in the vacuum of space just fine. He can also handle being beaten by Hulk, although even if he has better reflexes I think he isn't supposed to be as strong as Thor (Thor, the guy who was able to re-start a dying star by himself).
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:Who's to say that would've even killed them? Loki is pretty tough, he gets thrashed by the Hulk and is seemingly uninjured being walked in handcuffs through the building's lobby shortly after. Thor can survive floating around in space fine and I don't recall this myself since it's been awhile since I've seen the first Thor movie but someone mentioned earlier that Loki falls off Asgard and is presumably picked up in space by Thanos' crew. If they were already going to survive the impact, as you suggest, they never would have been able to hide there to begin with. The nexus event would have been when loki broke the tempad, stranding them on that planet, leading to a pair of Lokii surviving a disaster that they were never meant to be involved in. But, it wasn't.
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Supercar Gautier posted:Incorrect; prior to Sylvie's introduction, all they had shown were a buff Loki, a long-bearded Loki, and a Loki who won the Tour de France. No, there were a few others.    
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Jul 2, 2021 03:22
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being in love dramatically increases a Loki's power level
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update your rumblers league charts, it goes Loki < Hulk < Loki w/Clone Boner e: alternative explanation, two Lokis on the same page and fully willing to trust/cooperate with one another could be wily and charismatic enough to possibly corral the remaining planet's survivors to pull off one last ditch desperate escape move they otherwise would not have had the leadership and drive to perform, thus softening what would otherwise be a total apocalypse I'm just spitballing. Loki wouldn't HAVE to be in love necessarily for this to take place, but Loki being Loki it's a safe bet he doesn't deeply trust a lot of casual work-friends double e: the point being that it might not be "Loki in love is powerful" so much as "Loki committing himself to the cause of anyone but himself can stop god drat armageddon, alas" the fabled triple edit: Loki committing himself to causes beyond himself helped stave off Ragnarok in popular film Thor: Ragnarok Lunatic Sledge fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Jul 2, 2021 04:11
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:No, there were a few others. Blue loki Horny loki Hornier loki Horniest loki
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Blue loki it's foreshadowing
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MCU TV: CIVIL WAR (OVER HORNIEST LOKI)
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I'm enjoying Loki okay, but I'm not sure if I understand the universe that they're establishing. First, why are there any variants at all? It seems like most people follow the sacred timeline, but some people can apparently diverge from it? Do people have free will or not? Also, I don't understand the character of Sylvie. Each time we see a divergence from the main timeline, the TVA makes it seem like something terrible will happen if it's not fixed in a matter of minutes. But it seems like Sylvie was born a girl, then lived for like 10 years before the TVA showed up. Did their time-bomb then re-do the previous 10 years, but with boy-Loki instead? Finally, a small complaint: the TVA doesn't seem to be good at anything. If they're in charge of keeping the universe going, I feel like it would have blown up eons ago. I'm willing to overlook a lot in the name of a fun/intriguing story, but I feel like I don't understand the rules of this universe at all. Maybe it will make sense in the end. After all, the show seems to be a series of Wizard of Oz-style curtains, one after the other. However, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if the whole show is a lie/illusion to get Loki to say or do something. For example, I didn't like Ocean's Twelve because we, the viewers, were kept in the dark too long. I hope this show doesn't go that direction.
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DorianGravy posted:I'm enjoying Loki okay, but I'm not sure if I understand the universe that they're establishing. Yes, there's free will but something or someone is making an effort to strip it from the universe. Sylvie comments that the Universe wants to set free so it manifests chaos or something like that. If that's the case you will wonder what for? Who is really behind it? We might find out soon! quote:Also, I don't understand the character of Sylvie. Each time we see a divergence from the main timeline, the TVA makes it seem like something terrible will happen if it's not fixed in a matter of minutes. But it seems like Sylvie was born a girl, then lived for like 10 years before the TVA showed up. Did their time-bomb then re-do the previous 10 years, but with boy-Loki instead? A theory is that nothing will happen and everyone in the TVA was lied...and considering the revelations in these past episodes, that might be correct. Another theory is that the TVA seems to no care what you look like, as long as you do whatever the "Time Keepers" are dictating. Sylvie lived happy for 10 years, but she did something that created a nexus, we still don't know what it was. In a few words she didn't follow the Time Keeper's script. quote:Finally, a small complaint: the TVA doesn't seem to be good at anything. If they're in charge of keeping the universe going, I feel like it would have blown up eons ago.
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She knew she was loved.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:She knew she was loved. Yeah could be that. gently caress the tva 
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Yeah it’s super depressing and probably not limited to the Loki’s. “You were happy.”
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Everyone posted:At one point in Season Three while watching a scene from Return of the King the Legends noticed that Denethor sounded a lot like the bad guy they've been tangling with (because said bad guy was voiced by John Noble). So a couple of the Legends time travel to the 1999 New Zealand set of Lord of the Rings, find John Noble and get him to record some lines so they can use that trick some information out of one of the bad guy's people. This is the same episode in which Gorilla Grodd tries to kill a college-age Barack Obama. I'm not kidding, LoT is batshit insane and it's amazing.
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Yeah, it's interesting how they did the usual world-building and rule-setting in the first episodes as usual and then the very next thing they establish is that the entity they did that through is lying. The whole concept of variants themselves and trying to keep a sacred timeline in general could just as easily be lies too. Variants and branching timelines might not even matter whatsoever.
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Yeah, it's weird that this show is only 6 episodes. Was there a reason for that? I could have used another episode of Loki and Moebius buddy-copping, and for sure another episode of Loki and Sylvie connecting. It's hard to make emotional moments land in a hurry like this, but especially since it's about freaking Loki, where I'm constantly just assuming everything is just another trick.
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Sylvie and the other Lokis existing is proof that the sacred timeline is made-up bullshit
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Hawkperson posted:Yeah, it's weird that this show is only 6 episodes. show is confirmed to be getting a second season
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Sammus posted:Yes but unless the power of love can stop a moon crashing into a planet, what does it matter to the timeline if they love each other? The only event that was about to occur that could alter the timeline is the deaths of Loki and Sylvie. One of them or both of them aren't supposed to die yet according to the timeline. Note that the branch appears to have self-pruned once they were safe. There's two possibilities. One that was already mentioned in the thread, Either Loki dying is the branch not meant to be taken, so when the planet is coming down it sets off alarms and the proper course of history is Loki and / or Sylvia doing something special on the sacred timeline. Or what seemed to be Mobeus's theory., the cosmos breaking power of Two variant Lokia falling for each other was enough to trigger alarms.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:This is my only exposure to that show Everyone posted:That was cool, but this was the best: TinTower posted:This is the same episode in which Gorilla Grodd tries to kill a college-age Barack Obama. ...well gently caress, I need to watch this show
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I know I'm probably wrong, but this episode didn't actually confirm a Loki/Sylvie romance. I'd love it if committed to that, but I'd also laugh if it was an audience fake out
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A theory I've seen that I find likely is the apocalypse place that the Lokis are on is the place where everything that's been "reset" goes, even stuff erased by the reset devices. This implies that it's a junk world or dimension and that Avengers tower is just from some timeline that got reset. This explains the ship popping in in the mod season trailer.
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Parkingtigers posted:...well gently caress, I need to watch this show Yeah, that seemed dumb and trashy and delightful. Something I need in my life, right now.
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it's probably minority report rules, where knowing what's supposed to happen must eventually mean that what's supposed to happen will necessarily involve the knowledge that it will happen - in this case, a sacred timeline where things happen a certain way and an organization futzing with other timelines will necessarily mean that whatever the sacred timeline is will eventually involve people or things that would only exist thanks to the intervention of prescient parties or maybe I'm overthinking this
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Finally saw the episode. My personal theory is that Loki falling in love with him/herself would have motivated them to pool their magic power to try and survive in the coldness of space, or heck, maybe even try and find one of these hidden space portals from The Dark World/Ragnarok. Tragic option: one of the Lokis sacrifices so the other can survive. And that's what was going to cause the Nexus Event.
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XboxPants posted:If they were already going to survive the impact, as you suggest, they never would have been able to hide there to begin with. The nexus event would have been when loki broke the tempad, stranding them on that planet, leading to a pair of Lokii surviving a disaster that they were never meant to be involved in. But, it wasn't. They're not even supposed to be there though, which could cause the weird spike. Loki says right before that they survive then there's 5 other Lokis in the post credit scene
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Parkingtigers posted:...well gently caress, I need to watch this show Just a warning that the first season was trying too hard to be Continuum/Twelve Monkeys and failing really hard, so if you're finding it intolerable, you can skip to season 2 (although I personally don't recommend skipping) without missing a lot. Over the course of the second season, they pivoted hard and the show gradually became a lot more like Chuck, where they started writing what seemed fun instead of what seemed to make sense. I'd say the moment the show finds its tone is the moment someone says George Lucas has the Spear of Destiny
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Sockser posted:Sylvie and the other Lokis existing is proof that the sacred timeline is made-up bullshit I'm thinking the person behind the timekeepers just needs the sacred timeline to exist because that's the one they beat the other timelines and win in. GokuGoesSSj69 fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I'm thinking the person behind the timekeepers just needs the sacred timeline to exist because that's the one they beat the other timelines and win in. Sounds like a more proactive version of Strange making sure Tony can sacrifice himself.
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Hawkperson posted:Yeah, it's weird that this show is only 6 episodes. Was there a reason for that? I could have used another episode of Loki and Moebius buddy-copping, and for sure another episode of Loki and Sylvie connecting. It's hard to make emotional moments land in a hurry like this, but especially since it's about freaking Loki, where I'm constantly just assuming everything is just another trick. it's 7 days after Loki Ep. 6 aired, you open the D+ page and see a logo for a brand new series: Enchantress Ep. 1 of 6
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Don't these shows cost $200 million? That'd go further in six episodes than seven.
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Marsupial Ape posted:Yeah, that seemed dumb and trashy and delightful. Something I need in my life, right now. They occasionally get pulled into crossovers with the overserious soap opera supers shows but that ends up like this: https://twitter.com/ketomizu/status/1217316534088921088?lang=en
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I'm going to mention it again but not in spoilers. I feel like the way the other timelines work (to allow all these variant lokis) is that when they're created and we see it on the TVA screens the time that actually passes as the line moves is subjective. So we see the line for 30 seconds, but that universe exists for 30 years for the people in it before the TVA finally prune it. Which gives these variants a chance to be so different. Gives Loki chance to win the tour de france or be a big blue guy, you know.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:She's from an alternate timeline. Before they even introduced her, they showed the variant Loki list that included different species, different races, and agender versions of Loki. I don't think those were intended to be statements about transracialism or transpecism. You can definitely read it that way in a critical literary theory sense, but in the actual text of the show, there is nothing that indicates anything other than "Loki, but girl" in the same way they showed "Loki, but black," "Loki, but amorphous blob," "Loki, but giant green monster," "Loki, but blond," "Loki, but with wings," or "Loki, but Pele" during the variant video medley. Cmon man this post sucks poo poo
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