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skasion posted:Wasn’t the original plan for Alien 3 to be a cyberpunk-type Aliens on Earth story? One of the early trailers made it seem like it was going to be on earth, but I don’t recall any of the script drafts actually taking place there.
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Last I remember, Alien 3's original script included a planet made of wood.
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Xenomrph posted:One of the early trailers made it seem like it was going to be on earth, but I don’t recall any of the script drafts actually taking place there. I looked it up. I was thinking of William Gibson’s treatment, which I always remembered as taking place in America, but it turns out it’s set on a space station that’s a giant shopping mall under attack by communists. Android Apocalypse posted:Last I remember, Alien 3's original script included a planet made of wood. This is another treatment. David Twohy (guy behind the Riddick movies) came in and introduced the “prison planet” concept that made it into the finished film, but before they went with that, they kind of sidetracked into a “wooden monastery in space” concept. The finished movie follows the plot structure of this treatment, but uses the less wild prison planet setting of Twohy.
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A lot of Twohy’s prison planet ideas would show up in his later movie ‘Chronicles of Riddick’.
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People bitching that they are "making Aliens political" by telling stories of exploitative capital and class division remind me of the guys who I guess never peeped the liner notes get mad at RATM for being the same band they've been for 25 years. An Earth Hive story is perfect for it to. "Sure we can airlift you out of Quarantine Zone Reykjavik, as long as you present your Platinum WY Luxury Habitation Perks Card." The aforementioned covid paralels people thinking they'll just wait it out in there New Zealand bunkers.
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Owlbear Camus posted:People bitching that they are "making Aliens political" by telling stories of exploitative capital and class division remind me of the guys who I guess never peeped the liner notes get mad at RATM for being the same band they've been for 25 years.  How much clearer do you need it to be?
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A side character showing the main character youtube videos of Space Karens waving their homemade "cannot wear acid resistant mouth shield for medical reasons" notes
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The Zombie Guy posted:I'm pretty sure that if Xenos got loose on Earth, that it wouldn't be such a big deal. Yeah, there would be some deaths obviously, but governments would quickly realize what's happening, and take immediate steps to stop it from spreading. Average folks would be unprepared at first, but once the word got out about what was happening, and how all of humanity was at risk, we would all unite to do what needs to be done. People wouldn't just ignore such a visible threat killing millions around the world. This made me sad. 
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Owlbear Camus posted:People bitching that they are "making Aliens political" by telling stories of exploitative capital and class division remind me of the guys who I guess never peeped the liner notes get mad at RATM for being the same band they've been for 25 years. That just reminded me of the thin blue line flag waving old white people dancing around to Killing in the Name Of on a big speaker outside at a rally with zero awareness.
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Jul 2, 2021 19:30
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some people are just so far gone its honestly better to just nuke the whole site from orbit
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Jul 2, 2021 19:34
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Is it the only way to be sure? 
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Let's face it, being face hugged might be the most kindest outcome over certain idiots being in charge again.
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What I like about being facehugged is that, at the least, you have no memory of it. They're not freaking out and flapping around like they're drowning after like 10 seconds of it so it must sedate them somehow. Well then the whole chest bursting part but it can't be THAT bad right?
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Well then the whole chest bursting part but it can't be THAT bad right? It’s probably just fine.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:What I like about being facehugged is that, at the least, you have no memory of it. They're not freaking out and flapping around like they're drowning after like 10 seconds of it so it must sedate them somehow. It can't be any worse than flaming diarrhea after eating at a third rate taco joint.
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skasion posted:I looked it up. I was thinking of William Gibson’s treatment, which I always remembered as taking place in America, but it turns out it’s set on a space station that’s a giant shopping mall under attack by communists. The wooden monastery in space was Vincent Ward (of What Dreams May Come, Vigil and The Navigator fame), and ended up getting Story credit. Alien 3 was a complete mess and clearly a nightmare production - I can't even begin to imagine how demoralising it would have been for David Fincher on his first feature film - and it's honestly a loving miracle that they were able to cobble together something that wasn't completely terrible.
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Jul 2, 2021 23:08
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I watched Alien 3 last night. Drunkenly, but I watched it.
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Jul 2, 2021 23:24
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Assembly or theatrical cut? Tangentially, I watched The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo earlier today. It's mildly impressive how Fincher evolved as a director.
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Jul 2, 2021 23:25
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Xenomrph posted:A lot of Twohy’s prison planet ideas would show up in his later movie ‘Chronicles of Riddick’. Another cinematic masterpiece.
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Jul 2, 2021 23:28
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Android Apocalypse posted:Assembly or theatrical cut? The theatrical cut has its moments, but the assembly cut is the superior version. It just needs some wonky special effects and audio to be cleaned up - and also, have the Queen chestburster burst Ripley's chest, for gently caress's sake. I have no idea what the point was in removing that, and the music to cover up the missing bit just seems to awkward.
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Jul 2, 2021 23:35
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Android Apocalypse posted:Assembly or theatrical cut? Assembly for sure. I basically don't even remember the other cuts of movies because I watch these exclusively. Including the Aliens Director's Cut. Yes. That's all I watch. Fight me.
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Jul 2, 2021 23:42
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Alien theatrical cut > Alien director's cut No question. The poo poo that got cut for the theatrical cut deserved to stay cut. Aliens director's cut > Aliens theatrical cut The director's cut feels more complete, and while there's some stuff that I wouldn't miss if it were excised again, the sentry gun scene is really good poo poo, as is the first official reveal of Ripley's first name. Alien3 assembly cut > Alien 3 theatrical cut Everything that got cut to make the theatrical cut should have been added back in. Meanwhile, the only area where the theatrical cut wins out is that it doesn't have the visible audio-seam from when they cut the bit where the chestburster is pops out when Ripley does her Nestea plunge.
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Jul 2, 2021 23:48
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Biplane posted:Another cinematic masterpiece. Hey, I like the Riddick movies (and video games). Another good Twohy joint is ‘Below’ (which coincidentally stars Holt McCallany, who played the prisoner Junior in Alien3). edogawa rando posted:The theatrical cut has its moments, but the assembly cut is the superior version. It just needs some wonky special effects and audio to be cleaned up - and also, have the Queen chestburster burst Ripley's chest, for gently caress's sake. I have no idea what the point was in removing that, and the music to cover up the missing bit just seems to awkward. I think they removed it to show that Ripley has full agency over the situation and she dies on her own terms, not by a painful chest bursting. That said I agree it’s better with the chestburster. In the script and comic book adaptation (and possibly the novelization, I’d have to check), the Queen actually pops out before Ripley jumps and her dying act is grabbing it before it can escape, and then she tumbles backward into the furnace while holding it. My ideal cuts of Alien and Alien3 would actually have elements of both versions. With Alien3, I prefer having the dog as the Alien host, and the EEV crash and salvage as it is in the theatrical cut.
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Ripley grabs a hold of it in the theatrical cut as well. I have no idea where it could escape to though. Ripley's mid-air and there aren't any surfaces the little penis can scuttle on to without landing on the molten lead.
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The Zombie Guy posted:I'm pretty sure that if Xenos got loose on Earth, that it wouldn't be such a big deal. Uhhhh....did you see how we dealt with the pandemic? I know you said "earth" and not the U.S. so maybe you're right but I think we'd be hosed right proper. Oh, wait. My sarcasm detector plug in wasn't updated for aliens talk.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I popped in here to say I'm drunk and am watching Aliens again. While this is a sensible concern, I remember seeing Jurassic Park 2 for the first time and it felt so cool that t-rex got an adventure in suburbia. I could dig like a limited series of a xeno infestation on Earth in the same fashion, but if they want this to be a "novel" take on the endless zombie shows, I'm less impressed.
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BiggerBoat posted:Uhhhh....did you see how we dealt with the pandemic? I know you said "earth" and not the U.S. so maybe you're right but I think we'd be hosed right proper. So, New Zealand is going to be overall OK?
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Xenomrph posted:Another good Twohy joint is ‘Below’ (which coincidentally stars Holt McCallany, who played the prisoner Junior in Alien3). Below rules and is one of those you can never see for the first time again Also features Zack Galifianakis in a serious role. It is so open to interpretation as to what happens.
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skasion posted:Wasn’t the original plan for Alien 3 to be a cyberpunk-type Aliens on Earth story? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3yZ6BupKQo
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BiggerBoat posted:Uhhhh....did you see how we dealt with the pandemic? Well we didn't treat that like a big deal either, so...
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If anyone remembers AvP 2... they basically nuked the whole loving town. I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.
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Xenomrph posted:Hey, I like the Riddick movies (and video games). It’s because they are good.
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It's 12:35am Alien is on TV (SyFy) right now. I'm watching it. Also drunk again.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:With a movie, it's a self contained beast.
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Owlbear Camus posted:People bitching that they are "making Aliens political" by telling stories of exploitative capital and class division remind me of the guys who I guess never peeped the liner notes get mad at RATM for being the same band they've been for 25 years. I saw a comment on a clip from Aliens recently where someone said it was his favorite action movie because it didn't have "feminism shoved in it" like everything else
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Xenomrph posted:Hey, I like the Riddick movies (and video games). Me too! Escape from Butcher Bay was cool as hell. What was the second one called, Dark Athena or something? I remember it not being as good as Butcher Bay.
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Class Warcraft posted:I saw a comment on a clip from Aliens recently where someone said it was his favorite action movie because it didn't have "feminism shoved in it" like everything else Hahahaha holy poo poo
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Class Warcraft posted:I saw a comment on a clip from Aliens recently where someone said it was his favorite action movie because it didn't have "feminism shoved in it" like everything else using all my willpower to reimagine the ending where hicks, half-blind from acid goes and saves newt while ripley cooks him a casserole in the drop ship
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Biplane posted:Me too! Escape from Butcher Bay was cool as hell. What was the second one called, Dark Athena or something? I remember it not being as good as Butcher Bay. Assault on Dark Athena is alright. Kind of short if I recall. Strong Aliens vibes, complete with little girl who lives in the vents. Butcher Bay is a good game. Probably better at what it does than any of the movies, as much as I love them. Both are quite annoying to find nowadays, they got pulled from Steam/GOG a couple years back
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