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https://mobile.twitter.com/china_takes/status/1410745930119217152
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Jul 3, 2021 05:51
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https://twitter.com/viniciusataid/status/1410980353460912129 we need this man to teach XI jinping about marxism how did we get here where man from a stagnant US colony can be dismissive of China it just boggles the mind
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Jul 3, 2021 06:18
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thanks to the replies, TIL nathan ruser of ASPI didn't know anything about QR codes in China (like being used to pay vendors). this is literally their "best" people https://twitter.com/china_takes/status/1310603932968787971?s=20
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Jul 3, 2021 06:52
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i dont use qr codes because i hate newfangled technology but i was kind of under the impression that literally the entire reason they exist is so vendors can easily transmit data into your phone
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Jul 3, 2021 07:16
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Some Guy TT posted:i dont use qr codes because i hate newfangled technology but i was kind of under the impression that literally the entire reason they exist is so vendors can easily transmit data into your phone Also in China, they are used to pay for pretty much everything including street food. Also, it is pretty much mandatory if you use their Covid app to access any public space. I don’t know what that particular QR is for. As for knives, there is knife registration/control in Xinjiang.
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Jul 3, 2021 07:28
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Top City Homo posted:how did we get here where man from a stagnant US colony can be dismissive of China
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Jul 3, 2021 07:43
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Some Guy TT posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/koryodynasty/status/1411176820104318979 I’d have to know a lot more context to buy that it was unplanned, from these tweets/replies it seems like he went to the hospital specifically to seek out a nurse. also unrelated “sentence of 5 years or life” lol what kind of binary is that Top City Homo posted:https://twitter.com/viniciusataid/status/1410980353460912129 I thought that tweet was asking if he could see videos of Xi lecturing about Marxism
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Jul 3, 2021 07:58
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indigi posted:I’d have to know a lot more context to buy that it was unplanned, from these tweets/replies it seems like he went to the hospital specifically to seek out a nurse. also unrelated “sentence of 5 years or life” lol what kind of binary is that my impression was that he was inspired to try and have sex with her because hes a moron who thought nurse porn was real but the phrasing is very bad there and not the fault of the translator the original korean also implies cause and effect despite this being completely contradicted by the court citing the attack being unplanned as a reason for leniency
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Jul 3, 2021 08:29
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A minor getting a reduced sentence doesn't seem like a bad thing to me, knowing absolutely no details of the case other than that tweet.
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Jul 3, 2021 09:05
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It was an accident. Might as well arrest pencils for having erasers.
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Jul 3, 2021 09:14
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3 years of someone's life is pretty significant imo If this genuinely is part of a trend of sexual assault crimes seeing reduced sentences then thats hosed though
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Jul 3, 2021 09:54
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is South Korea as hosed wrt Japan on sexual norms?
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Jul 3, 2021 10:02
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indigi posted:also unrelated “sentence of 5 years or life” lol what kind of binary is that Honestly I can see the logic of that. 5 years is a pretty long time when the intention isn't to permanently gently caress someone over.
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Jul 3, 2021 10:11
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Neurolimal posted:3 years of someone's life is pretty significant imo nearly all sentences in the south korean criminal justice system are reduced sentences some people have been deliberately discussing these stories in english without that context to give that second impression for the sake of reference the original story was just a low effort article from a legal publication that appears to consist entirely of the police report and the sentencing report theres no actual reporting of any details beyond those two contexts
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Jul 3, 2021 10:11
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like half of pekingology is directly translating idiomatic expressions and getting all yellow peril about it lol
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Jul 3, 2021 10:51
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Ardennes posted:Also in China, they are used to pay for pretty much everything including street food. Also, it is pretty much mandatory if you use their Covid app to access any public space. that qr code is a wechat payment code. it’s extremely obvious if you’ve spent in china at all since 2015 imo there is knife registration in guangdong too, maybe everywhere in china idk
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Jul 3, 2021 11:33
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if police want to know about a business, they can simply look at the business license. all chinese stores have them in a visible spot, usually framed on the wall. i imagine the police have access to a computer system that can look up all sorts of details based on the numbers on the business license. even in the olden days they could probably do the same in practically every country, no fancy qr tech needed
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Jul 3, 2021 11:36
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this is reminding me how the north korean economy is constantly described as reliant entirely on black markets in spite of the fact that these markets are also described as regulated by the north korean government which would make them not black markets by any commonly understood definition of the word
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Jul 3, 2021 11:49
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Zmej posted:thanks to the replies, TIL nathan ruser of ASPI didn't know anything about QR codes in China (like being used to pay vendors). this is literally their "best" people Lol so these guys just get paid sitting in an office and look at random Chinese photos and let their imagination run wild and guess what's in the photos? BTW I learnt from one of these thinktank podcast some of these guys didn't even study relevant Asian major in school, just some basic liberal art majors. Could have been a cftni podcast.
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Jul 3, 2021 12:13
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fart simpson posted:if police want to know about a business, they can simply look at the business license. all chinese stores have them in a visible spot, usually framed on the wall. i imagine the police have access to a computer system that can look up all sorts of details based on the numbers on the business license. even in the olden days they could probably do the same in practically every country, no fancy qr tech needed Orwell tried to warn us stephenthinkpad posted:Lol so these guys just get paid sitting in an office and look at random Chinese photos and let their imagination run wild and guess what's in the photos? That is an accurate description of Nathan Ruser's job, yes Red and Black has issued a correction as of 12:37 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Jul 3, 2021 12:23
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I didn't know knives needed to be registered but regardless seeing a chained-up knife isn't at all surprising because it's a market and your stall isn't enclosed so you out your knife on a chain so randos can't just up and take it It's no different from a pen with a chain on it at a bank
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Jul 3, 2021 13:00
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OK but cynically motivated or not you can hardly deny that the Chinese govt has put a lot of resources into poverty alleviation etc and other big infrastructure projects, so a big clean water initiative would be very on brand even if it was primarily done as a PR move
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Jul 3, 2021 13:29
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gradenko_2000 posted:I didn't know knives needed to be registered but regardless seeing a chained-up knife isn't at all surprising because it's a market and your stall isn't enclosed so you out your knife on a chain so randos can't just up and take it knife registration is new in the last few years. i last bought a kitchen knife in 2018 and i didn’t need to, but in the time since you now need to present id and register it and all kitchen knives in supermarkets are behind lock and key in a case
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Jul 3, 2021 13:29
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I had some libbish friends scoff at Xi's statement that China has not oppressed another country and never will, using as his example Tibet. I hesitate to call disenfranchising the feudal warlords there "oppression" but in any case, what were China's claims to the region? Any good resources on this to start from? Not really something you can search for and turn up a useful answer outside of "China is imperialist".
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Jul 3, 2021 14:43
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mcclay posted:is South Korea as hosed wrt Japan on sexual norms? South Korea is probably even more hosed than japan in regards to sexuality, gender roles, etc. South korea is in general more conservative than japan. Purely anecdotal but it always seems that most of the pushback in japanese society is coming from the olds still clinging to power while the younger generations are indifferent about it while in south korea even the young are openly antagonistic to progress in these topics.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:50
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Zmej posted:thanks to the replies, TIL nathan ruser of ASPI didn't know anything about QR codes in China (like being used to pay vendors). this is literally their "best" people lmfao i still cant believe people get paid to write this poo poo literally the most braindead easy job out there "look at picture and make up poo poo that sounds evil"
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Jul 3, 2021 14:57
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Deified Data posted:I had some libbish friends scoff at Xi's statement that China has not oppressed another country and never will, using as his example Tibet. I hesitate to call disenfranchising the feudal warlords there "oppression" but in any case, what were China's claims to the region? Any good resources on this to start from? Not really something you can search for and turn up a useful answer outside of "China is imperialist". the libs here screamed SPRATLY ISLANDS! SPRATLY ISLANDS! when the articles about Xi's speech hit mainstream media
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Jul 3, 2021 14:59
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The Qing took over Tibet from the mongols in the early 1700s, put the Dalai Lama in charge and made up a new way of succession that ensured the Lama would continue to rule Tibet as an autonomous protectorate of the Qing. Once the Qing collapsed Tibet declared itself to be independent while the new Chinese government said Tibet was still a Chinese protectorate and no one officially recognized Tibet as an independent state even if they de facto ran the country. The US held the position that China held sovereignty over Tibet until they mysteriously started to recognize Tibet as independent after 1949, for reasons unknown, what a mystery this is 
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Jul 3, 2021 15:08
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Red and Black posted:Orwell tried to warn us i was just in an h&m a few minutes ago. here it is framed on the wall. very orwellian 
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Jul 3, 2021 15:15
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mcclay posted:is South Korea as hosed wrt Japan on sexual norms? your questions too broad because most koreans cant agree what sexual norms even are anymore young men think they live in an incel hellhole while young women think they live in a patriarchy neither of them give a poo poo about lgbt issues old conservatives are straight up westboro baptist fruitcakes on that topic while old liberals claim to support civil rights for them yet somehow always have an excuse for why they cant do anything right this minute
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Jul 3, 2021 15:52
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indigi posted:I’d have to know a lot more context to buy that it was unplanned, from these tweets/replies it seems like he went to the hospital specifically to seek out a nurse. also unrelated “sentence of 5 years or life” lol what kind of binary is that in that case im wrong and he is a based man
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Jul 3, 2021 16:02
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fart simpson posted:i was just in an h&m a few minutes ago. here it is framed on the wall. very orwellian literally 1984
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Jul 3, 2021 16:04
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HerraS posted:The Qing took over Tibet from the mongols in the early 1700s, put the Dalai Lama in charge and made up a new way of succession that ensured the Lama would continue to rule Tibet as an autonomous protectorate of the Qing. Once the Qing collapsed Tibet declared itself to be independent while the new Chinese government said Tibet was still a Chinese protectorate and no one officially recognized Tibet as an independent state even if they de facto ran the country. The US held the position that China held sovereignty over Tibet until they mysteriously started to recognize Tibet as independent after 1949, for reasons unknown, what a mystery this is Alright that did it lol. They told me about the demolished temples and oppression of Buddhists there and I asked them to please provide evidence so I have something to engage with, they asked if anecdotes were sufficient and I made it explicitly clear they were not so they said they'd get back with me tomorrow which probably means never. On the other hand I got them to discover that the CIA had their hand in the Lhasa revolts entirely on their own so maybe that's a crack forming in their CHINA BAD worldview.
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Jul 3, 2021 17:12
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Deified Data posted:Alright that did it lol. They told me about the demolished temples and oppression of Buddhists there and I asked them to please provide evidence so I have something to engage with, they asked if anecdotes were sufficient and I made it explicitly clear they were not so they said they'd get back with me tomorrow which probably means never. or they just think the cia meddling in china is perfectly moral and fine
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Jul 3, 2021 17:40
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Top City Homo posted:or they just think the cia meddling in china is perfectly moral and fine They're left-ish and it gave them pause, but yeah they do still think the revolts were largely justified, in which case my question would be - to who? The average Tibetan?
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Jul 3, 2021 18:00
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from my lackadaisical reading, the big "free Tibet" NGOs have NED money and you can trace their founding to regime change state dept initiatives and/or directly fostered by state dept/intelligence staff. I'm not well-versed in this, but the basic outline: the Dalai Lama and the elite in Tibet justified their hierarchy, exploitation, and rule over serfs through their mysticism/religion. the communist party liberated these serfs. so anytime I'm reading about the Dalai Lama and and his inner circle, like his right-hand man and CIA-asset brother, "Free Tibet" in my mind is really just a bunch of "divinely-justified" fail-sons who are mad they lost their enslaved serfs edit: one weird side-detail, I think it was "Students to Free Tibet" hired this elite PR firm who helps out big politicians, not-kind multi-national corporations, etc to the tune of like six-figures. it's weird seeing a "grass-roots" NGO hire a firm that takes on some of the biggest clients in america. the part that kinda made me bug out is that the firm is based in down-town Philly, which I walk by like weekly sometimes lol Zmej has issued a correction as of 18:13 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Jul 3, 2021 18:06
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Deified Data posted:Alright that did it lol. They told me about the demolished temples and oppression of Buddhists there and I asked them to please provide evidence so I have something to engage with, they asked if anecdotes were sufficient and I made it explicitly clear they were not so they said they'd get back with me tomorrow which probably means never. Ask them what they think about the US continuing to occupy half of Mexico e: to clarify, because California and Texas, etc have been part of the US for less time than Tibet in China Red and Black has issued a correction as of 18:15 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Jul 3, 2021 18:09
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https://historicly.substack.com/p/tibet-china-and-the-violent-reaction most of the sources used to write this came from the CIA archives lmao
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Jul 3, 2021 19:25
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One of the things we are seeing in real time is the US pressuring allies into going after companies engaged in buying stuff made in xinjiang as if every single product made there was made by slaves in labor camps even if said companies audit the supply chain and find no issues. Aside from the obvious front of "cant support the ccp" the real goal is to prevent china from actually building up the region economically. They know that if it prospers through the usual steps that china's employed on other regions then xinjiang will be completely lost as an "easy" target to try to destabilize.
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Jul 3, 2021 19:43
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Cao Ni Ma posted:companies audit the supply chain and find no issue
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