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crispix posted:he was wearing a fido dido tie and everything Please don't make me feel sorry for a person I disagree with.
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Jul 5, 2021 12:47
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Jedit posted:That's practically a given. They're already being invited to sell the family home to landlords to cover their care home costs. There's also kind of an isolationist trick to it in that when it happens to them it's disgusting, when it happens to others it's fine. So each individual case is seen as fine by the majority, and even people who have relatives that it happened to will defend the policy when it happens to others. I personally think that equity release companies are the absolute bottom of the barrel, especially where they prey on isolated or vulnerable people and get them to sign things they don't understand.
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Jul 5, 2021 12:52
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If only there was some sort of National Care Service, someone should introduce it, sounds like a good policy to win over the boomer vote.
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Jul 5, 2021 12:54
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crispix posted:i was being keith, getting down with the young people
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Jul 5, 2021 12:58
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feedmegin posted:It is actually large and luxurious (my backyard, well my landlord's, is all concrete and built for a house that's supposed to be an airbnb/have 10 polish people crammed into it). I could have like 200 people under it easy like. Looks like meat’s back on the menu boys!!! 
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Jul 5, 2021 13:01
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Bobby Deluxe posted:The thing that amazes me is that the entire generation above us has internalised that 'you have to pay your way, it's only fair' mentality to such a degree that selling their house to pay for care seems about right to them. "paying their way" through house price inflation and paid for by the subsequent generation.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:01
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Guavanaut posted:kieth seems like the type to go around smelling people's toast. He always looks like he's just smelled something fascinating so it's a strong possibility.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:01
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Today's Twitter main character. https://twitter.com/noncefinance/status/1334329722084343810
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Jul 5, 2021 13:02
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feedmegin posted:It is actually large and luxurious (my backyard, well my landlord's, is all concrete and built for a house that's supposed to be an airbnb/have 10 polish people crammed into it). I could have like 200 people under it easy like. You're in Barking, if you've got a house built after 1960 and there's *not* a couple of grasses and someone who took diabolical liberties buried under it then I think you're allowed to sue the builders.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:02
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JollyBoyJohn posted:does anyone else get major anxiety when it comes to phoning plumbers/electricians etc
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Jul 5, 2021 13:20
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https://twitter.com/headfallsoff/status/1411808954582286336
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Jul 5, 2021 13:25
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TACD posted:Yea I have a lot of very weirdbrain worries about this kind of thing. “What if this is something I don’t know how to fix but should, like changing a lightbulb?” My dad has now shown me, but still. I was absolutely livid for a few weeks at not being able to change a lightbulb.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:31
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keep punching joe posted:If only there was some sort of National Care Service, someone should introduce it, sounds like a good policy to win over the boomer vote. Labour are robbing me of the freedom to sit in a pile of my own poo poo for hours while waiting for my daily 15 minutes from the free market Care Company of my choosing.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:34
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You're in Barking, if you've got a house built after 1960 and there's *not* a couple of grasses and someone who took diabolical liberties buried under it then I think you're allowed to sue the builders. The landlord remodelled it in 2019 (with the aim of cramming said 10+ polish people into it) soooo 
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Jul 5, 2021 13:36
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TACD posted:Yea I have a lot of very weirdbrain worries about this kind of thing. “What if this is something I don’t know how to fix but should, like changing a lightbulb?” “What if I know so little I describe the problem wrong and waste their time?” “What if they identify me as an utter mug and rinse me for 4x what the job should cost?” “What if this job requires something else doing before or after that I don’t know about?” Also "how to get multiple quotes for a large job" should be one of those things. e: And how to spot a predatory lender 
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Jul 5, 2021 13:50
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Guavanaut posted:There ought to be an authoritative up to date version of those Modern Housewife books from the 50s, where it's like "you should know how to replace a fuse wire/maintain a pilot light/darn a sock, but you should not attempt to repair a gas pipe, contact the gas board from a neighbour's phone" type things for current living. The absolute basics all the way up to things that most people would just assume requires abilities beyond theirs but aren't that specialized. I see a money-making opportunity for the keen effort-posters ITT! Meanwhile, I'm in the process of getting estimates (not yet quotes) for redecorating the internal common areas of our block of flats and I have absolutely zero idea of what it might cost so will have no idea if the estimates are under- or over- priced! I have put out a distress call to a former colleague who used to do refurbs for nurses' homes and the like for any pointers to eg a website where you can get estimates! It's actually been quite difficult to identify firms that can even do this work as almost all the recommendations I've had seem to be 'domestic' even though I explicity put in my request for info in our local FB group* 'this is NOT domestic and will not suit a sole trader'. *the group is for businesses not randoms. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Jul 5, 2021 14:04
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I was still unreasonably pissed off at moving into the new place and finding that it had LED fittings that I had no idea how to replace. My place has LED fittings and I hate them. Almost always manage to get 'bitten' by the little snap things that hold them in the ceilings
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Jul 5, 2021 14:06
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Replace with "influenza" for the current world. As much as we progressed in medicine, not all problems are solveable. Covid-19 is going to remain a thing forever, and that's been pretty clear since it escaped containment in China.
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Jul 5, 2021 14:10
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Angrymog posted:My place has LED fittings and I hate them. Almost always manage to get 'bitten' by the little snap things that hold them in the ceilings
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Jul 5, 2021 14:18
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Guavanaut posted:Also "how to get multiple quotes for a large job" should be one of those things. I went with the one who emailed me back and probably paid too much, I have no idea! 🤷🏻
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Jul 5, 2021 14:24
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Guavanaut posted:There ought to be an authoritative up to date version of those Modern Housewife books from the 50s, where it's like "you should know how to replace a fuse wire/maintain a pilot light/darn a sock, but you should not attempt to repair a gas pipe, contact the gas board from a neighbour's phone" type things for current living. The absolute basics all the way up to things that most people would just assume requires abilities beyond theirs but aren't that specialized. "ask neighbours / local friends and family for recommendations" is a decent shortcut for a lot of tradesmen anxiety multiple quotes also helps a lot, we're getting the driveway done (finally) and there was about £2,500 difference between the lowest quote (massively unrealistic) and the highest (rip off)
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Jul 5, 2021 14:44
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On some level I don't trust the idea of "getting a quote" - this maybe shows my immaturity but I just assume "quotes" are bullshit and there will always be something unplanned for that hikes everything up, is that ridiculous?
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Jul 5, 2021 14:50
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Guavanaut posted:There ought to be an authoritative up to date version of those Modern Housewife books from the 50s, where it's like "you should know how to replace a fuse wire/maintain a pilot light/darn a sock, but you should not attempt to repair a gas pipe, contact the gas board from a neighbour's phone" type things for current living. The absolute basics all the way up to things that most people would just assume requires abilities beyond theirs but aren't that specialized. There actually is - the Readers Digest DIY Manual. Admittedly last updated in 2011 but it covers just about anything you're going to want to try yourself. I bought it for my nephew-in-law (with a tool belt and a little starter tool kit) as a house-warming gift when he and my niece got their first flat, and he still refers to it to this day. And yes, it *does* include stuff about selecting a tradesman and spotting scammers for stuff you can't do yourself.
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Jul 5, 2021 14:54
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JollyBoyJohn posted:On some level I don't trust the idea of "getting a quote" - this maybe shows my immaturity but I just assume "quotes" are bullshit and there will always be something unplanned for that hikes everything up, is that ridiculous? If I get a quote, that's what I expect to pay unless they find out that the house is about to fall down without immediate action and it needs a different job to solve. Is that not how it works in the UK?
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Jul 5, 2021 14:58
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It is, just some people are paranoid about tradesmen cheating them.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:00
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JollyBoyJohn posted:On some level I don't trust the idea of "getting a quote" - this maybe shows my immaturity but I just assume "quotes" are bullshit and there will always be something unplanned for that hikes everything up, is that ridiculous? It sounds like you're mixing up quotes (which should be a full breakdown of goods and labour needed to do the job, ideally with a fixed price instead of £x per hour / day) with estimates, which are basically an educated guess. If they give it to you over the phone without actually coming out and looking at what needs to be done it's almost certainly an estimate.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:08
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Nothingtoseehere posted:It is, just some people are paranoid about tradesmen cheating them. That's not paranoia, it's a real problem. I've had several people try to mess me about in the UK.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:10
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Trade etiquette is that if you make a quote you stick to it, and if something outside of the original spec comes up, which you will have written and given a copy of to the customer (often in the form of scrawls and arcane symbols but still), you discuss it with them. However because people are people, sometimes people think they can act like cunts. Like with mechanics it's especially a problem for women, which is one reason why we need more women in the trades.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:12
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Good to know I'm not the only one who gets all sadbrains about calling out a plumber. I've got a leaky kitchen tap and theoretically I know how to fix it, it's just swapping washer out or something. But I don't actually know how to turn off the water; there's a valve on one of the pipes jammed between the wall and the cupboard under the sink which is extremely hard to reach and impossible for me to turn so I've no idea if it shuts off the water or not. I just imagine getting the plumber out and he asks where the water shutoff valve is and I just shrug and feel stupid. I put a brillo pad in the sink under the tap and that muffles the sound of the water dripping so I can sleep.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:13
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Older, more experienced people can also be really unhelpful with their recommendations. Like the time our gran recommended a roofer who was really good, 'just don't leave any valuables out or any drink in the fridge, he'll help himself. And don't leave your missus in the house alone.' Or our father in law who regularly recommends people only to clarify that you have to be 'firm with him about the price or he'll try and raise it at the last minute.' Most of the people my father in law has recommended have needed us to be 'firm' (about attendance / quality / money) to the extent of being willing to physically fight them. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Jul 5, 2021 15:15
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Replace with "influenza" for the current world. As much as we progressed in medicine, not all problems are solveable. Covid-19 is going to remain a thing forever, and that's been pretty clear since it escaped containment in China. Sorry, but it's not influenza. Like, there's more to an illness than how infectious it is & what percentage of people infected does it kill. Long COVID is being associated with everything from sudden onset of diabetes to shortness of breath & fatigue to heart palpitations.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:15
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Shyrka posted:extremely hard to reach and impossible for me to turn That confirms it's the water shutoff  I think this is the video I watched years ago to get it unstuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-qMeVX5Yw
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Jul 5, 2021 15:18
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Older, more experienced people can also be really unhelpful with their recommendations. Like the time our gran recommended a roofer who was really good, 'just don't leave any valuables out or any drink in the fridge, he'll help himself. And don't leave your missus in the house alone.' Pros: Gas Safe registered. Cons: Active nonce.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:20
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JollyBoyJohn posted:On some level I don't trust the idea of "getting a quote" - this maybe shows my immaturity but I just assume "quotes" are bullshit and there will always be something unplanned for that hikes everything up, is that ridiculous? I get the same anxiety with anything that could come with "unexpected costs", including the dentist. It's so difficult to trust that we're not being taken advantage of. Then again I'm also the kind of person who'll blindly pay whatever I'm asked without dispute out of social awkwardness.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:20
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Guavanaut posted:Sounds like character traits for the worst RPG.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:23
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what you want to do is talk to the plumber in the tone of voice used in pornography videos of yore, having not broken eye contact with him since you answered the door wearing only your favourite jockstrap he will be only too glad to go about his business without your help most times
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Jul 5, 2021 15:24
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knox_harrington posted:That's not paranoia, it's a real problem. I've had several people try to mess me about in the UK. I got ripped off by a cleaning company that didn't, costing me about 300 quid from my deposit last time I moved plus what I paid them. It happens.
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Jul 5, 2021 15:25
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Bobby Deluxe posted:You know he's good because he's on two registers! 
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Jul 5, 2021 15:26
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stev posted:I get the same anxiety with anything that could come with "unexpected costs", including the dentist. It's so difficult to trust that we're not being taken advantage of. This is me too. "Oh no, don't want to make a fuss, and I'm sure they wouldn't charge too much, that's just not sporting". That's my background brain state at least, I do fight it and act like a Proper Adult Human where possible. I just about got the hang of dealing with this kind of thing in the UK, and then I moved country and now have to deal with tradespeople in my 6th language, with a bunch of kit that's different in bizarre ways to the UK - cf the induction hob saga from last year, where it turned out it's perfectly normal to run a hob off two separate 16A circuits, but it's ok because the hob is secretly two hobs inside, so it's safe... and that's just normal here, and the electricians thought I was weird for questioning it. On the upside, the neighbours either side have been in these identical terraced houses since they were built, so at least they know the quirks.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:It is, just some people are paranoid about tradesmen cheating them. not long after I first moved into my flat the bedroom ceiling developed a leak - now this was during a torrential period of rain in January 2014 or so, I remember a work colleague of mine who had just bought a brand new house having the same issue - i phoned my mum because I was a total wide eyed goober who had no idea how to fix things and she got got a guy who had recently fixed some leakage problems in her outside veranda to fix it. He charged us £500 and fixed the roof, it seemed like a lot for the couple of days he was up there but when you have water pissing down onto your dressing gowns it kinda encourages you to move quick, my mother paid. Incidentally it turned out that any costs for repairing the roof are 25% my liability, 25% next doors flat and 50% the carpet shop downstairs but thats another story. Long Story short, it turned out the guy who fixed my roof was part owner of a company with a dude who used to sell me hash when i was in high school and the roof guy while seemingly able and well meaning disappeared and ran off to the Philippines about 2 months after this whole incident. I later saw the invoice for the roof repair and it was literally "house name - roof repairs - £500". I've still not actually repaired the bedroom wall just in case it ever leaks again, the wife is mad about it but it'd be sods law you spend hundreds doing up the bedroom and then boom torrential rain again. The only other contractor I've used in recent memory was the plumber who eventually fixed my hot water tap. Now he did fix it, and he did have to replace my hot water valve with a piece of copper (because he didn't have any valves available which sounded strange to me) and he also accidentally flooded the downstairs carpet shop (thankfully only the toilet) since my overflow pipe from my hot water tank has a leak in it. He charged me £70 for that one and frankly I didn't care if it meant hot water for the first time in half a decade. So yes, broadly I don't trust contractors, I always expect something to go wrong, the cost to be higher than sounds reasonable and any other applicable difficulty that might arise. Thats without even including stories of my best mate who had a contractor take so long and have so many loopholes with tiling his bathroom that he didn't even charge for the job! Having said that I have managed to get a hold of (a different) plumber to fix my new shower so lets hope that one goes smoothly. As for me I'm going to turn on the immersion heater and have my first bath in about 20 years tonight.
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