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Kevin DuBrow posted:Land Raiders being named after Arkham Land is dumb, but I've gotten used to it. But now I've learned about Amar Astarte. gently caress that. The Land Speeder is too. Because NOT a Star Wars reference!
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I inordinately hate Land because of his stance on monkeys.
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I'm reading Fire Caste and this passage had me raise my eyebrows:quote:Like many Arkan patricians Vendrake was no great believer in the Emperor’s Light. After all, He hadn’t shed much light on Old Providence. Just two centuries ago, blithely unaware of the approaching Imperium, Vendrake’s ancestors had revelled in the new-found glories of steel and steam. It had been a time of unfettered innovation, with the Grand Machinists churning out new wonders every day. The Senate had declared the old gods dead and the Seven Hells mere fables. Men were free to explore a puzzle box universe where everything was possible and nothing was forbidden. Then the warships of the Imperium had arrived and crushed the dream, but the grand families had never forgotten their past. The novel is definitely set in 40k, as it features the Tau. Does it gel with canon that as late as the 41st millennium there were still uncontacted human worlds who had never been reached by the Great Crusade?
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Jul 3, 2021 19:19
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NihilCredo posted:I'm reading Fire Caste and this passage had me raise my eyebrows: Could be localized warp storms, a nebula that cuts off sensors, lots of stuff. 40k is a mulligan stew not a setting. If you need it in the universe it's there.
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NihilCredo posted:I'm reading Fire Caste and this passage had me raise my eyebrows: Yeah, they pop up in the lore pretty regularly. Remember space is mind-bogglingly enormous and the have the excuse of the Warp and its ever changing dangers to explain pretty much anything. I think the saddest one was when the contacted a really high-tech human world that had mostly managed to hang onto advanced tech way beyond what the Imperium had who told the Imperium to gently caress off when they tried to fold them in. The Imperium ended up just slamming a bunch of asteroids into them and destroying the whole planet when they couldn't manage to establish a beach-head on the planet.
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Jul 3, 2021 19:46
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Also as far as I'm aware humanity colonized the entire galaxy during the Age of Technology, whereas the Imperium was still expanding during the Horus Heresy and never explored the furthest reaches. So there are certainly uncontacted human worlds out there - albeit ones that may have already been invaded by other groups.
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Jul 3, 2021 19:51
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NihilCredo posted:I'm reading Fire Caste and this passage had me raise my eyebrows: The Great Crusade was never completed, the Heresy interrupted it's progress in pretty dramatic style and things never really got going again at anything like the same pace afterwards. So yeah, there's huge swathes of space that's sat on a to-do list in a filling cabinet somewhere on Terra for the last ten millennia.
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Roller Coast Guard posted:The Great Crusade was never completed, the Heresy interrupted it's progress in pretty dramatic style and things never really got going again at anything like the same pace afterwards. So yeah, there's huge swathes of space that's sat on a to-do list in a filling cabinet somewhere on Terra for the last ten millennia. Most of the post great crusade recontact of other human worlds is seemingly done as a reconquest of old previously lost imperium holdings and/or as a military response to alien activity. It is basically just hard to expand when you have to put out fires all the time So every year that to-do list is probably ritually carried in a procession to the high lord's chamber of notification where the procession chants the wishes of the emperors devine wisdom three times and then goes back in scared silence to the administratum hive.
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I love that image. The High Lords gathering for the annual evaluation of the progress of the Great Crusade basically being the UK's opening of parliament with ritualised stupid bullshit.
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Zore posted:Yeah, they pop up in the lore pretty regularly. Remember space is mind-bogglingly enormous and the have the excuse of the Warp and its ever changing dangers to explain pretty much anything. To be fair, if it's the one's the Space Wolves were sicked on, they decidedly did not see themselves as "human" and the "live vivisections" of the envoys demonstrated clearly this fact. Arquinsiel posted:I love that image. The High Lords gathering for the annual evaluation of the progress of the Great Crusade basically being the UK's opening of parliament with ritualised stupid bullshit.
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NihilCredo posted:I'm reading Fire Caste and this passage had me raise my eyebrows: Oh yeah. There's worlds out on the fringes that've been doing their own thing this entire time. Mankind went everywhere during the Dark Ages.
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Jul 4, 2021 05:06
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The Imperium calls the Dark Age that because it was bereft of the Emperor's light, not because it was a period of decline. It was humanity's highest point and everything they've done has been to try and get it back.
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Dominion the new Age of Sigmar novel seems like a great starting point book for the setting from what I have read so far.
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wiegieman posted:The Imperium calls the Dark Age that because it was bereft of the Emperor's light, not because it was a period of decline. It was humanity's highest point and everything they've done has been to try and get it back.
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Are there any more books in the Indomitus era aside from Dawn of Fire 1-2, Indomitus, and Dark Imperium 1-3? Edit-- specifically after the resurrection of Roboute Guilliman Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 4, 2021 |
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Jul 4, 2021 15:15
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Are there any more books in the Indomitus era aside from Dawn of Fire 1-2, Indomitus, and Dark Imperium 1-3? There's random ones like Mark of Faith, Apocalypse, Of Iron and Honour to name a few. I wish they had some kinda "Era Indomitus" imprint for "current day" books
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Jul 4, 2021 15:45
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Judging by how a recovered dark age ai was disgusted with the imperium being a bunch of ignorant religious zealots and called them squatters on the legacy of mankind. The imperium probably isn’t viewed as something any of the groups on the fringes want anything to do with.
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Are there any more books in the Indomitus era aside from Dawn of Fire 1-2, Indomitus, and Dark Imperium 1-3? Watchers of the throne is just as things are popping off on terra
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Zasze posted:Judging by how a recovered dark age ai was disgusted with the imperium being a bunch of ignorant religious zealots and called them squatters on the legacy of mankind. The imperium probably isn’t viewed as something any of the groups on the fringes want anything to do with. What story was this, and what happened to the AI? They purged it, I assume? 
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In the Man of Iron short story there's a Man of Iron wondering around a black stone fortress pretending to be a tech priest's remote robot. He is very salty about the imperium and the false omnissiah.
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Most AI didn’t survive the warp getting bad again after the Eldar fell. Or didn’t survive without being possessed.
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I still love the chaos virus that hosed up Mars. It's so dumb, how can a virus make something sentient and murderous and then it just did.
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Xenomrph posted:What story was this, and what happened to the AI?
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Xenomrph posted:What story was this, and what happened to the AI?
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Arquinsiel posted:It blew a digital raspberry and took the spaceship it was driving back into the warp. There's a passing mention in another Haley book (Godblight or Great Work) about how Cawl "bested" it. Who wants to bet it's now working for him.
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I'm surprised at how much I'm coming to like Guilliman ... After reading Avenging Son and now I'm halfway through Dark Imperium -- he's a surprisingly deep character.
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They're actually doing something mildly interesting with Guilliman having to confront the existence of actual gods and the idea that the Emperor has probably become one.
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:I'm surprised at how much I'm coming to like Guilliman ... After reading Avenging Son and now I'm halfway through Dark Imperium -- he's a surprisingly deep character. The last chapter of Plague Wars might be my favourite Guilliman scene.
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did the kaban machine ever show up again? if not i hope one of the authors remembers it and writes an hangout session with it and cawl
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Xenomrph posted:What story was this, and what happened to the AI? Z the IVth posted:There's a passing mention in another Haley book (Godblight or Great Work) about how Cawl "bested" it. It woke up, yanked the memories out of the interfacing techpriest, absolutely demolished the fleet they were with with Necron tier and/or beyond level weaponry and then basically super warp jumped to either the Galaxy edge or out of the galaxy because the Imperium murdered it's captain. Cawl is full of poo poo, the AI was/is basically way way outside of much of the settings ability to handle. It was very much a "Hey you know those super advanced ships from other Scifi Novels like the Culture ones? This is one of them and it's Pissed." Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Telsa Cola posted:It woke up, yanked the memories out of the interfacing techpriest, absolutely demolished the fleet they were with with Necron tier and/or beyond level weaponry and then basically super warp jumped to either the Galaxy edge or out of the galaxy because the Imperium murdered it's captain. I mean he is probably full of poo poo but he did successfully beat a c'tan shard so he shouldn't be underestimated.
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The new Gaunt's Ghost book was great. Apparently it's going to be a new series running in parallel to the main one. Some very interesting revelations that I am excited to see play out. The new Sabbat War anthology was also excellent.
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Molothecat posted:Watchers of the throne is just as things are popping off on terra If anyone hasn't read these, then you're in for a treat. So good. If you enjoy Guilliman returning, these are a must. No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Are there any more books in the Indomitus era aside from Dawn of Fire 1-2, Indomitus, and Dark Imperium 1-3? Devastation of Baal happens right after he was revived. I didn't care for it much. Shroud of Night happens as the Primaris are starting to be introduced. I enjoyed this. Philthy fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Abnett had this nailed so early on. I'm reading back through Gaunt's Ghosts, and I'm in the part of the Saint omnibus with the WW1 planet, when they're shacked up in the manor house.Dan Abnett posted:‘I know. I know. It never lets up, does it? War. There’s only war. It’s the only future we’ve got. Dark? Yes! Grim? Oh, yes, sir! There’s only ever war!’ Silly Newbie fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Are there any more books in the Indomitus era aside from Dawn of Fire 1-2, Indomitus, and Dark Imperium 1-3? It seems a little disconnected from the Indomitus Crusade since it's about an Inquisitor during the Psychic Awakening, but after the events of the latest few Indomitus books, I think "The Horusian Wars" by John French is setting up the same things from another angle.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:It seems a little disconnected from the Indomitus Crusade since it's about an Inquisitor during the Psychic Awakening, but after the events of the latest few Indomitus books, I think "The Horusian Wars" by John French is setting up the same things from another angle. I like those books because they show the warp in a more "weird psychic ascension to higher plane of understanding" kind of way and less "rawr demons! teeth and blood! Rrr!"
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Biplane posted:I like those books because they show the warp in a more "weird psychic ascension to higher plane of understanding" kind of way and less "rawr demons! teeth and blood! Rrr!"
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D-Pad posted:The new Gaunt's Ghost book was great. Apparently it's going to be a new series running in parallel to the main one. Some very interesting revelations that I am excited to see play out. The new Sabbat War anthology was also excellent. Urdesh? I really enjoyed its depiction of Astartes, similiarly to the way Abnett/ADB writes them. Not just charging in at poo poo with helmets off but genuinely masters of their craft. Felt a little short though. Big fan of Farrer's work after his Arbites novels.
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Biplane posted:I like those books because they show the warp in a more "weird psychic ascension to higher plane of understanding" kind of way and less "rawr demons! teeth and blood! Rrr!" Yeah those scenes are all great. Big spoilers but check them out if you read Godblight but don't wanna read The Horusian Wars. This series doesn't deal with Primaris, or the Indomitus crusade, or Guilliman at all, but it is set post-Rift in that same time, and the major theme is the effects of the Rift on Faith. Which is the same thing Guilliman is having to think about. The final book isn't out yet, but the series so far has shown what is perhaps the actual big E, or some type of Chaos God of Order that corresponds to humanity's belief rather than the actual man on the Golden Throne, or just something weird and new, that is trying to wake up and take a new body. It seems insane or fractured and lacks a sense of self, it is definitely traumatised and struggling to focus on the materium, but it seems to be gaining coherency and recalling it's purpose. Every time it tries to manifest by possessing one of the faithful, it fucks it up and dies and loads of people die, but it comes slightly closer to success each time. There is a deeply Puritan Inquisitor who uses a very high quality Emperor's Tarot deck made out of psychic crystals or something, and it's heavily implied that it really does work, the Corpse Emperor/Warp Emperor actually does answer the faithful and help them through those cards, if they know what they are doing. There's loads of stuff like that which establishes Faith as something that is becoming more powerful due to the Rift, and hints that the Emperor is taking an active role in events again, and how the Inquisition, Puritan, Radical, or Heretic, are dealing with that and it's implications. Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Its been fairly canon for awhile that the Emperors tarot does work, sometimes. Also I think he caused a warpstorm at somepoint pre rift. You also have the whole Legion of the Damned thing. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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