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Vord posted:Could you elaborate on this cause I am insanely curious now. Claudia Christian was involved with Dodi Fayed, and he asked her to have his kid. She left him and then later he and Diana got together.
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Wait, so Star Trek gets Barack Obama elected President of the United States, while Babylon 5 gets Diana killed? drat, this show really is cursed.
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Vord posted:Could you elaborate on this cause I am insanely curious now. Dodi Fayed asked her to have his baby and she turned him down.
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Midjack posted:Dodi Fayed asked her to have his baby and she turned him down. Specifically because she'd just got a five year gig and wanted to concentrate on her career.
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Just wanted to wish everyone a happy anniversary to everyone today!
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still not as bad as mass effect referencing musk
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TK-42-1 posted:still not as bad as mass effect referencing musk To be fair, that was ME:Andromeda and that was the least of its problems.
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I keep on thinking about that Atomic Robo story that revolved around Robo having established a compound with people who were apparently portrayed to be his equals in action-science, and the other two people in charge of the area were Richard Branson, who was a weird rear end in a top hat who refused to let Robo do construction and Elon Musk, who hadn't moved into the area yet, but getting his vote in the HOA allowed Robo to begin construction again. Weird.
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This kind of poo poo is why you never reference the contemporary in an effort to be "hip" and "with it".
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I'm trying to recall actual modern-day references in Babylon 5 and all I'm coming up with is Zima and the Rush Act.
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Do Rebo and Zooty count?
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That ZX-11 And Garibaldi's Daffy Duck poster
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Most of the technology the younger races had was believed to be possible based on the science of the day. The one big exception is tachyon-based communication channels, which were just added in to make the story work better.
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Vavrek posted:I'm trying to recall actual modern-day references in Babylon 5 and all I'm coming up with is Zima and the Rush Act. They had the Dilbert guy on for a cutesy bit, back before he went bugnuts.
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Rappaport posted:Do Rebo and Zooty count? I would say no, since they aren't playing themselves and they are basically making the opposite point, making up a bunch of pop culture that is super strange to us.
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Well, there's Garibaldi being a fan of the 1954 cartoon Duck Dodgers, and there's that one time where he suddenly had an interest in rebuilding a certain 90s motorcycle.
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Looney Tunes are like jazz, they'll obviously be around forever. B5 having good writers who knew how to read the room helped too.
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Star Trek used to have the good sense to name two things from before the show was filmed and one alien thing to avoid this poo poo.
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Even Star Trek’s subtler pop culture thing where everyone listens to classical music and also things baby boomers find comfort in got annoying after a while. I hope the new star trek series don’t suddenly have characters with historical interest in the 1990s.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Even Star Trek’s subtler pop culture thing where everyone listens to classical music and also things baby boomers find comfort in got annoying after a while. I hope the new star trek series don’t suddenly have characters with historical interest in the 1990s. According to we hate movies bones was a big fan of nu metal and especially former president durst
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Tom Paris would never shut up about Rick and Morty
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By the time of Star Trek, The Beastie Boys is classical music
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I think a few modern-day references would be fine, but it always frustrated me that star trek was full of them. Most of the works they reference in, say, TNG, should be from the 24th century, with comparatively fewer of them from the 23rd, 22nd, etc. 20th century references should be exceedingly rare and would be a genuine treat if they didn't pop up all the time and break all suspension of disbelief. Not to mention that like, not showing what art and music look like in future centuries was a huge missed opportunity and cheap references to actually-existing media is no substitute at all.
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ElBrak posted:Star Trek used to have the good sense to name two things from before the show was filmed and one alien thing to avoid this poo poo. There was a black president. We're one female pope away from all the SF tropes collapsing into anarchy.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I think a few modern-day references would be fine, but it always frustrated me that star trek was full of them. Most of the works they reference in, say, TNG, should be from the 24th century, with comparatively fewer of them from the 23rd, 22nd, etc. 20th century references should be exceedingly rare and would be a genuine treat if they didn't pop up all the time and break all suspension of disbelief. Not to mention that like, not showing what art and music look like in future centuries was a huge missed opportunity and cheap references to actually-existing media is no substitute at all. I'd rather they just didn't do it at all than make up stuff that's going to be hilariously dated in 5 years, or zero effort Zorflox of Planet Hydra Chloroquine type stuff. If they actually went to the effort to commission good musicians and other artists that'd be one thing.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I think a few modern-day references would be fine, but it always frustrated me that star trek was full of them. Most of the works they reference in, say, TNG, should be from the 24th century, with comparatively fewer of them from the 23rd, 22nd, etc. 20th century references should be exceedingly rare and would be a genuine treat if they didn't pop up all the time and break all suspension of disbelief. Not to mention that like, not showing what art and music look like in future centuries was a huge missed opportunity and cheap references to actually-existing media is no substitute at all. Sci-fi shows used to do that and then you get stuff like this: https://youtu.be/byp5-750gZk 
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Buck Rogers is amazing because all the young people are into disco and Buck doesn’t understand it because he was frozen in the 80s. I have no idea if that was intentional or just thoughtless documentation of the 70s, when the show was made.
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Goblin Craft posted:I'd rather they just didn't do it at all than make up stuff that's going to be hilariously dated in 5 years, or zero effort Zorflox of Planet Hydra Chloroquine type stuff. If they actually went to the effort to commission good musicians and other artists that'd be one thing. The problem with doing "realistic" future pop culture is that, realistically, it should make as much sense and be as aesthetically pleasing to us as internet memes and K-pop would be to someone from the 1600s.
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McSpanky posted:The problem with doing "realistic" future pop culture is that, realistically, it should make as much sense and be as aesthetically pleasing to us as internet memes and K-pop would be to someone from the 1600s. Which brings us back to Rebo and Zooty
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McSpanky posted:The problem with doing "realistic" future pop culture is that, realistically, it should make as much sense and be as aesthetically pleasing to us as internet memes and K-pop would be to someone from the 1600s. Bach would rock the gently caress out to some BTS.
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McSpanky posted:The problem with doing "realistic" future pop culture is that, realistically, it should make as much sense and be as aesthetically pleasing to us as internet memes and K-pop would be to someone from the 1600s. I was going to say that The Fifth Element maybe gets the closest to this with Ruby Rhod and the alien opera singer, but it only took like ten years for real world pop stars to start doing Ruby Rhod and alien opera singer stuff, and Bjork was pretty much already both of those things years earlier, so who knows. This might be one of those things that's nearly impossible to predict without accidentally dating your show and therefore should only be alluded to but never directly shown, like the band in Lower Decks. The sci-fi adventure game Tacoma features minor references to a fictional future K-Pop supergroup called "One Vein" led by "Veiny Johnny" and now it's the only thing I can ever think of on the rare occasion that I see "future" and "K-Pop" in the same sentence
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Just double down and pack your 25th century space opera with references to beavis & butt-head.
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CainFortea posted:Bach would rock the gently caress out to some BTS. Bach would have gotten heavy into synths and procedurally generated music and it would have been incredible.
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Data Graham posted:Just double down and pack your 25th century space opera with references to beavis & butt-head. "The Butthead was never meant to be one of a kind. It was only the first."
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ZRM posted:"The Butthead was never meant to be one of a kind. It was only the first." "Here Lies Zack. He Never Scored"
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Rewatching the show and I had forgotten about G'Kar's fetish for human women.
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Alhazred posted:Rewatching the show and I had forgotten about G'Kar's fetish for human women. He's just a big horndog. Doesn't he hide his bionic eye to spy on Sheriden and Delenn at some point? Someone needs to write a story about the poor sod who gets called in to work on G'Kar's laptop and stumbles on the ambassador's browser history.
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He also banged Londo's 3rd wife Mariel.
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