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Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




StrixNebulosa posted:

I poked my head in here to ask for a super-indulgent rec: I want to read about hyper-competent characters being competent and possibly being lauded for it. I don't care what the genre is, fiction or non-fiction, I want to see someone being REALLY GOOD at something and showing off. Winning at competitive knitting, disarming bombs, any subject, I just want to read about it.

Captain Monkey posted:

Andy Weir's The Martian.

I have never read more page turning competence porn of the engineering / language variety than Andy Weir's "The Martian" and "Project Hail Mary."

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tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Fate Accomplice posted:

I have never read more page turning competence porn of the engineering / language variety than Andy Weir's "The Martian" and "Project Hail Mary."

I wonder if The Player of Games by Ian Banks would scratch a similar itch.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

tuyop posted:

I wonder if The Player of Games by Ian Banks would scratch a similar itch.

Player really annoyed me. Thought it was the characters, but it turns out I just don't like ian m banks writing style.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Zekky posted:

Scifi stuff

I feel remiss for but mentioning this in my first response, but:

The long way to a small, angry planet

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

tuyop posted:

I wonder if The Player of Games by Ian Banks would scratch a similar itch.

Probably not. I loved the Martian and couldn’t finish Player of Games.

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012
I am currently in the mood for any kind of fiction by actual Native American / First Nation authors - historical fiction, contemporary fiction, sci-fi or fantasy, etc.

Books that I’ve already read:
The Night Watchman by Louis Erdrich
Blasphemy: New and Selected Stories, by Sherman Alexie
The Absolutely True Story of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie
The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven, by Sherman Alexie
There There, by Tommy Orange

I already have bought copies of Erdrich’s The Last Report on the Miracle at Little No Horse and The Round House, so even though I’m probably fairly set already, I just wanted to see if there were any titles I could keep an eye out for.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Ceremony by Leslie Marmon Silko is a classic

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



IBroughttheFunk posted:

I am currently in the mood for any kind of fiction by actual Native American / First Nation authors - historical fiction, contemporary fiction, sci-fi or fantasy, etc.

Books that I’ve already read:
The Night Watchman by Louis Erdrich
Blasphemy: New and Selected Stories, by Sherman Alexie
The Absolutely True Story of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie
The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven, by Sherman Alexie
There There, by Tommy Orange

I already have bought copies of Erdrich’s The Last Report on the Miracle at Little No Horse and The Round House, so even though I’m probably fairly set already, I just wanted to see if there were any titles I could keep an eye out for.

Rebecca Roanhorse writes sci-fi and urban fantasy, I haven't read her most recent books but her Sixth World books are pretty good if you're okay with fun, action-y fantasy. They're sort of a post-climate-apocalypse modern fantasy centered mostly around Dine characters.

If horror is an option, Stephen Graham Jones has tons of stuff out there. The Only Good Indians follows a handful of Blackfeet characters. Heavy content warning for violence though, including to animals.

I haven't read it myself but Indian Horse by Richard Wagamese has been recommended to me a number of times.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


IBroughttheFunk posted:

I am currently in the mood for any kind of fiction by actual Native American / First Nation authors - historical fiction, contemporary fiction, sci-fi or fantasy, etc.

Books that I’ve already read:
The Night Watchman by Louis Erdrich
Blasphemy: New and Selected Stories, by Sherman Alexie
The Absolutely True Story of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie
The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven, by Sherman Alexie
There There, by Tommy Orange

I already have bought copies of Erdrich’s The Last Report on the Miracle at Little No Horse and The Round House, so even though I’m probably fairly set already, I just wanted to see if there were any titles I could keep an eye out for.

I just bought a copy of Son of a Trickster by Eden Robinson, which was profiled in last year's Canada Reads competition

e. its YA from a few years ago but The Marrow Thieves by Cherie Dimaline was highly regarded as I recall (have not read it myself yet)

Bilirubin fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jul 6, 2021

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

BioTech posted:

Mao's Great Famine

Gonna flip this back around on you; would you recommend this? Came across it forever ago, but never got off my rear end about it. Is it readable by a layman?

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

IBroughttheFunk posted:

I am currently in the mood for any kind of fiction by actual Native American / First Nation authors - historical fiction, contemporary fiction, sci-fi or fantasy, etc.


Keeper ‘n Me by Richard Wagamese is a really good Ojibwe story of coming of age/identity in modern Canadian Indigenous contexts.

BioTech
Feb 5, 2007
...drinking myself to sleep again...


Magnetic North posted:

Gonna flip this back around on you; would you recommend this? Came across it forever ago, but never got off my rear end about it. Is it readable by a layman?

Absolutely, it is well-written and explains the policies and their detrimental effects in a clear way.
It is the first and only book I've ever read on the subject, but I had no difficulty following any of it.

Note that it looks at some of the horrors of this period at a very personal level as well, there are stories from people about what happened to their village and family during this period.
These are incredibly depressing, especially considering the scale of it all, so it can be very unpleasant to read at times.

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012

GorfZaplen posted:

Ceremony by Leslie Marmon Silko is a classic

I almost can't believe I haven't known about Leslie Marmon Silko until now. I work at an academic library and found we had a copy of Ceremony on our shelves. I'm excited to start it today!

MockingQuantum posted:

Rebecca Roanhorse writes sci-fi and urban fantasy, I haven't read her most recent books but her Sixth World books are pretty good if you're okay with fun, action-y fantasy. They're sort of a post-climate-apocalypse modern fantasy centered mostly around Dine characters.

If horror is an option, Stephen Graham Jones has tons of stuff out there. The Only Good Indians follows a handful of Blackfeet characters. Heavy content warning for violence though, including to animals.

I haven't read it myself but Indian Horse by Richard Wagamese has been recommended to me a number of times.

Thanks for putting Roanhorse back on my radar. I have heard good things about Black Sun as well as Trail of Lightning and the other Sixth World books. Also, I snagged The Only Good Indians for my Kindle recently on sale too.

MockingQuantum posted:

I haven't read it myself but Indian Horse by Richard Wagamese has been recommended to me a number of times.

tuyop posted:

Keeper ‘n Me by Richard Wagamese is a really good Ojibwe story of coming of age/identity in modern Canadian Indigenous contexts.

Also going to give Wagamese a good look now too!

Bilirubin posted:

I just bought a copy of Son of a Trickster by Eden Robinson, which was profiled in last year's Canada Reads competition

e. its YA from a few years ago but The Marrow Thieves by Cherie Dimaline was highly regarded as I recall (have not read it myself yet)

These are also going on my to-reads list. The Marrow Thieves came up a few times yesterday while doing some of my own research on possible next-reads.

Thanks so much, everyone! This looks like a fantastic collection.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Right now I'm reading House of Leaves and when I finish it I'll want more of it.
So I'm looking for a scary book. No gory stuff but a tiny bit of gore is fine if it supports the story.

I'm mostly looking to experience some deep dread and claustrophobia, preferably in a big house where you could get lost in. Shadows in the dark, unsettling noises at night, etc...
Bonus points if it's about a group of people trying to get through the night and/or location, but that's optional. Paranormal stuff is fine but not necessary.

vvv I saw the Netflix series. I realize it's probably not a good comparison to the book, but I find it hard to read a book after I've seen its movie or series version sadly.

So maybe I'm looking for some lesser known books.

John F Bennett fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 7, 2021

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

John F Bennett posted:

Right now I'm reading House of Leaves and when I finish it I'll want more of it.
So I'm looking for a scary book. No gory stuff but a tiny bit of gore is fine if it supports the story.

I'm mostly looking to experience some deep dread and claustrophobia, preferably in a big house where you could get lost in. Shadows in the dark, unsettling noises at night, etc...
Bonus points if it's about a group of people trying to get through the night and/or location, but that's optional. Paranormal stuff is fine but not necessary.
Have you read The Haunting of Hill House?

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

John F Bennett posted:

Right now I'm reading House of Leaves and when I finish it I'll want more of it.
So I'm looking for a scary book. No gory stuff but a tiny bit of gore is fine if it supports the story.

I'm mostly looking to experience some deep dread and claustrophobia, preferably in a big house where you could get lost in. Shadows in the dark, unsettling noises at night, etc...
Bonus points if it's about a group of people trying to get through the night and/or location, but that's optional. Paranormal stuff is fine but not necessary.

vvv I saw the Netflix series. I realize it's probably not a good comparison to the book, but I find it hard to read a book after I've seen its movie or series version sadly.

So maybe I'm looking for some lesser known books.

The netflix show is nothing like the book at all. There's nothing in common with it, besides the name, and it's exactly what you're asking for.

Also, The Shining, unless you don't think you can read that after the movie, even though they are also very different.

And maybe Slade House by David Mitchell.

And Hell House by Richard Matheson.

Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jul 7, 2021

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

The Stephen King short story 1408 is exactly what you're looking for and one of the very best things he's ever written. It's so well crafted and constructed.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



John F Bennett posted:

Right now I'm reading House of Leaves and when I finish it I'll want more of it.
So I'm looking for a scary book. No gory stuff but a tiny bit of gore is fine if it supports the story.

I'm mostly looking to experience some deep dread and claustrophobia, preferably in a big house where you could get lost in. Shadows in the dark, unsettling noises at night, etc...
Bonus points if it's about a group of people trying to get through the night and/or location, but that's optional. Paranormal stuff is fine but not necessary.

vvv I saw the Netflix series. I realize it's probably not a good comparison to the book, but I find it hard to read a book after I've seen its movie or series version sadly.

So maybe I'm looking for some lesser known books.

I'll second what Franchescanado says, Haunting of Hill House is this exactly, and bears very little resemblance to the Netflix series other than the names that are used. It's probably one of the best examples of exactly what you're talking about here.

Besides that, and the suggestions already given (which are all great and I second them all), these spring to mind:

Wylding Hall by Elizabeth Hand

The Woman in Black by Susan Hill is basically this idea but doesn't have a ton of depth to the story and I wasn't a huge fan, so mentioning it mostly for completeness

House of Small Shadows by Adam Nevill (caveat to this one, Nevill sometimes gets gory though I can't remember for certain whether there are any bad moments in this one, someone who has read it more recently might be able to say for sure)

possibly The Elementals by Malcolm McDowell. It doesn't take place inside a big house but centers around a location with strange goings-on and it had a particularly haunting and claustrophobic feel to me.

The Grip of It by Jac Jemc also doesn't have a huge house involved but it takes place largely in a home, and definitely ticks the dread and claustrophobia boxes


joke(?) answers would be "The Fall of the House of Usher" and House on the Borderlands though I'm not sure either is actually what you're looking for.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Thanks guys, for the spooky tips! A lot of stuff to add on my list.

Franchescanado posted:

The netflix show is nothing like the book at all. There's nothing in common with it, besides the name, and it's exactly what you're asking for.

Guess I need to let go of this reluctance to read the original work after having seen the movie/show that is based on it. Thanks! Added to the list.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

John F Bennett posted:

Thanks guys, for the spooky tips! A lot of stuff to add on my list.

Guess I need to let go of this reluctance to read the original work after having seen the movie/show that is based on it. Thanks! Added to the list.

The book is almost always better. I can think of, like, three exceptions where the film is better than the book. (Jaws, Jurassic Park, and The Last Picture Show)

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Franchescanado posted:

The book is almost always better. I can think of, like, three exceptions where the film is better than the book. (Jaws, Jurassic Park, and The Last Picture Show)

Starship Troopers for sure. Tons of arguable ones as well, but that one for sure at least.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

John F Bennett posted:

Right now I'm reading House of Leaves and when I finish it I'll want more of it.
So I'm looking for a scary book. No gory stuff but a tiny bit of gore is fine if it supports the story.

I'm mostly looking to experience some deep dread and claustrophobia, preferably in a big house where you could get lost in. Shadows in the dark, unsettling noises at night, etc...
Bonus points if it's about a group of people trying to get through the night and/or location, but that's optional. Paranormal stuff is fine but not necessary.

vvv I saw the Netflix series. I realize it's probably not a good comparison to the book, but I find it hard to read a book after I've seen its movie or series version sadly.

So maybe I'm looking for some lesser known books.

Home Before Dark by Riley Sager maybe?

I'd like some recommendations on action-y books with some government conspiracy theory poo poo in them. Just some light fun summer reading. Maybe something along the Gray Man series or Orphan X but preferably with some government hiding weird poo poo theories woven into it. Suggestions?

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Clayton Bigsby posted:

Home Before Dark by Riley Sager maybe?

I'd like some recommendations on action-y books with some government conspiracy theory poo poo in them. Just some light fun summer reading. Maybe something along the Gray Man series or Orphan X but preferably with some government hiding weird poo poo theories woven into it. Suggestions?

The Gone World is the conspiracy from the inside. This is not a spoiler since it’s revealed at the very beginning: the world is coming to an end and every time government agents travel forward in time it gets closer. It’s a fun read, although somewhat gory and cruel at times. I enjoyed it and I believe it qualifies as light.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Take the plunge! Okay! posted:

The Gone World is the conspiracy from the inside. This is not a spoiler since it’s revealed at the very beginning: the world is coming to an end and every time government agents travel forward in time it gets closer. It’s a fun read, although somewhat gory and cruel at times. I enjoyed it and I believe it qualifies as light.

I had this one my reading list already so will definitely pick it up, thank you! About to park "Airliner Down" by John Etzil that somehow has a 4.3 rating on Goodreads yet is total garbage.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Clayton Bigsby posted:

About to park "Airliner Down" by John Etzil that somehow has a 4.3 rating on Goodreads yet is total garbage.
Not sure what "but" is doing there.

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009
I mean, technically :goonsay:

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Take the plunge! Okay! posted:

The Gone World is the conspiracy from the inside. This is not a spoiler since it’s revealed at the very beginning: the world is coming to an end and every time government agents travel forward in time it gets closer. It’s a fun read, although somewhat gory and cruel at times. I enjoyed it and I believe it qualifies as light.

That sounds so similar to The First 15 Lives of Harry August, although there's not much government conspiracy in that book.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Clayton Bigsby posted:

Home Before Dark by Riley Sager maybe?

I'd like some recommendations on action-y books with some government conspiracy theory poo poo in them. Just some light fun summer reading. Maybe something along the Gray Man series or Orphan X but preferably with some government hiding weird poo poo theories woven into it. Suggestions?

I keep recommending him, but Firestarter by Stephen King fits.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Franchescanado posted:

I keep recommending him, but Firestarter by Stephen King fits.

Yeah Firestarter is a great rec for that.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

What's a book about the environment for a person who found "The Uninhabitable Earth" to be unreasonably optimistic?

e: that sounds like a winner, thanks

COPE 27 fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jul 13, 2021

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
“Going Dark”

Edit: the one by Guy McPherson

space kobold
Oct 3, 2009


I'd love a "lets bootstrap society with engineering and technical know-how" style book. Can be time displaced, marooned, rebuilding after disaster / apocalypse, just needs to have some interesting problem solving.

Destiny's Crucible and the Destroyermen series sort of scratched that itch, but I'd like some alternative recommendations.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

space kobold posted:

I'd love a "lets bootstrap society with engineering and technical know-how" style book. Can be time displaced, marooned, rebuilding after disaster / apocalypse, just needs to have some interesting problem solving.

Destiny's Crucible and the Destroyermen series sort of scratched that itch, but I'd like some alternative recommendations.

The 1632 series?

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

space kobold posted:

I'd love a "lets bootstrap society with engineering and technical know-how" style book. Can be time displaced, marooned, rebuilding after disaster / apocalypse, just needs to have some interesting problem solving.

Destiny's Crucible and the Destroyermen series sort of scratched that itch, but I'd like some alternative recommendations.

Semiosis, maybe Children of Time, there’s another book I read years ago about people crash landed on a planet populated by two (or three?) headed dogs with a medieval society. That book sounds like it would work for you and was excellent.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

tuyop posted:

there’s another book I read years ago about people crash landed on a planet populated by two (or three?) headed dogs with a medieval society. That book sounds like it would work for you and was excellent.

Fire Upon The Deep by Vernor Vinge

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

space kobold posted:

I'd love a "lets bootstrap society with engineering and technical know-how" style book.

These are the nonfiction versions:

"How to Invent Everything: A Survival Guide for the Stranded Time Traveler"
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B2LNVBY/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

"The Knowledge: How to Rebuild our World from Scratch"
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H4EM594/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I just finished The Ten-Cent Plague about the rise and fall of horror comics in the 40s and 50s and loved it. I also loved Shock Value about the rise of a new generation of horror filmmakers in 60s and 70s New Hollywood and how they pushed horror to new levels. I also watched a documentary about the censorship of DTV horror in Britain in the 80s called Video Nasties.

I might be a bit burnt out on horror history (might!) but I really enjoy that intersection between history and pop culture, getting really in depth with the figures and politics behind the scenes. I'm big on movies so that seems like an obvious area, though I'm not really a music guy so I'm not particularly interested in anything in that arena. But is there anything else that pops to mind that might tap that same itch?

It doesn't even have to be anything particularly nerdy. I have Seduction: Sex, Lies, and Stardom in Howard Hughes' Hollywood that I might jump into, but wanted to see if there's anything else that someone might recommend. Open to tangentially-related suggestions, too!

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

The Pirates and the Mouse by Bob Levin is about a copyright lawsuit between Disney and a group of cartoonists who deliberately provoked them to make a point

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

feedmyleg posted:

I just finished The Ten-Cent Plague about the rise and fall of horror comics in the 40s and 50s and loved it. I also loved Shock Value about the rise of a new generation of horror filmmakers in 60s and 70s New Hollywood and how they pushed horror to new levels. I also watched a documentary about the censorship of DTV horror in Britain in the 80s called Video Nasties.

I might be a bit burnt out on horror history (might!) but I really enjoy that intersection between history and pop culture, getting really in depth with the figures and politics behind the scenes. I'm big on movies so that seems like an obvious area, though I'm not really a music guy so I'm not particularly interested in anything in that arena. But is there anything else that pops to mind that might tap that same itch?

It doesn't even have to be anything particularly nerdy. I have Seduction: Sex, Lies, and Stardom in Howard Hughes' Hollywood that I might jump into, but wanted to see if there's anything else that someone might recommend. Open to tangentially-related suggestions, too!

Film:

Five Came Back: A Story of Hollywood and the Second World War
Pictures At A Revolution: Five Movies and the Birth of the New Hollywood
Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex-Drugs-Rock 'N Roll Generation Saved Hollywood
Best. Movie. Year. Ever.: How 1999 Blew Up The Big Screen
A Long Time Ago, In A Cutting Room Far, Far Away: My Fifty Years Editing Hollywood Hits by Paul Hirsch
The Big Goodbye: Chinatown and the Last Years of Hollywood
Space Odyssey: Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C. Clarke and the Making of a Masterpiece
The Devil's Candy: The Anatomy of a Hollywood Fiasco
Hollywood Animal: A Memoir by Joe Eszterhas

Video Games:

Blood, Sweat and Pixels: The Triumphant, Turbulent Stories Behind How Video Games Are Made
Press Reset: Ruin and Recovery in the Video Game Industry

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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

I rather liked William Goldman (aka "the guy who wrote The Princess Bride")'s memoirs. Try his Adventures in the Screen Trade.

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