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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Isn't northern Ontario still solid orange?

It's like four seats, but they're all NDP

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CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Saskatchewan’s NDP is associated with austerity measures from the 90s and has never been able to shake that monkey off their back.

Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.


CopywrightMMXI posted:

Saskatchewan’s NDP is associated with austerity measures from the 90s and has never been able to shake that monkey off their back.

Ontario's NDP is associated with actual real good-results orientated austerity measures from the early 90s and will never hear the end of it.

RAE DAYS RAE DAYS RAE DAYS

As if the Cons would'nt have a worship plaque if they came up with that scheme.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

infernal machines posted:

Isn't northern Ontario still solid orange?

It's like four seats, but they're all NDP

No, the seats around Thunder Bay all went Liberal (Patty Hajdu won TB-Superior-North after Bruce Hyer quit in huff over gun registration or something) and Kenora went blue.

bub spank
Feb 1, 2005

the THRILL

Slotducks posted:

Ontario's NDP is associated with actual real good-results orientated austerity measures from the early 90s and will never hear the end of it.

RAE DAYS RAE DAYS RAE DAYS

As if the Cons would'nt have a worship plaque if they came up with that scheme.

I mean, Saskatchewan is the same. Before the past decade or so, the history of Saskatchewan was the NDP providing stable, fiscally responsible, competent government, and then the PC's (and the Liberals once in the 70's) coming in every 10 years or so to blow things up, privatize everything in sight, and run massive defecits.

Grant Devine's PC government in the 80's put Saskatchewan into a massive hole, and sold off really profitable Crown corporations that would have helped the province climb out of that hole. When the NDP got back in power in the 90's, the Romanow/Calvert governments had to impose massive austerity measures, and as part of that they closed/consolidated a bunch of rural hospitals, pissing off a number of their formerly safe rural seats. The province was back in a surplus by the 2000's, and then the Sask Party came in and blew everything up again. Only this time, people don't really seem to care that the Sask Party is incompetent.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
David Chartrand from the MMF is calling Pallister on a lot of poo poo right now.

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009

Arcsquad12 posted:

David Chartrand from the MMF is calling Pallister on a lot of poo poo right now.

Where can I read about this? David Chartrand is kind of a dumbass leader of our people who tends to lick boots to whichever federal party is in power, so it's interesting when he actually stands up and acts like some kind of leader (which does occasionally happen)

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Willatron posted:

Where can I read about this? David Chartrand is kind of a dumbass leader of our people who tends to lick boots to whichever federal party is in power, so it's interesting when he actually stands up and acts like some kind of leader (which does occasionally happen)

Oh he was in total rear end licking mode today talking about how amazing Trudeau has been for the Metis, but he was also screaming bloody murder at Pallister.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVSwdPiegEw

About halfway through he went on his tirade.

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009

Arcsquad12 posted:

Oh he was in total rear end licking mode today talking about how amazing Trudeau has been for the Metis, but he was also screaming bloody murder at Pallister.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVSwdPiegEw

About halfway through he went on his tirade.

You know what, gently caress it. This is a great step forward, we finally achieved recognized self-governance and while I wouldn't have voted for him Chartrand is the elected leader of a recognized Metis Nation of Manitoba. If he got it through bootlicking to the feds, so be it, maybe they wouldn't have conceded this to us if they didn't have a puppet like him at the helm, but now I can register as a citizen of the Metis Nation and maybe actually feel like it's worth voting for someone else. I'll give him props for securing this for us.

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008

Entropic posted:

No, the seats around Thunder Bay all went Liberal (Patty Hajdu won TB-Superior-North after Bruce Hyer quit in huff over gun registration or something) and Kenora went blue.

Kenora is very weird in comparison to the rest of Northern Ontario voting tendencies.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Arcsquad12 posted:

The Dunn's Diner nonsense was a funny local shitshow. Just wish there were Diners that didn't have poo poo service. Zak's takes thirty minutes to get a milkshake and Elgin Street Diner's only saving grace is 24 hour service for drunk Ottawa U students.

and no matter what flavour you order you get fuckin strawberry because they don't rinse the machine between servings

Gringo Heisenberg posted:

I did Pfizer then Moderna. Had a wicked headache for most of the night I got the shot, but Tylenol cleared it right up. Also had a fever most of the night too, but I ended up coming down with a cold at the same time so hard to say what it was from. Most of the people I work with did Pfizer -> Moderna too and most of them didn't miss work for any side effects. Do know a couple people who were out for a couple days with fatigue, but doesn't seem too common.

I've heard if you're getting Moderna second, drink a lot of fluid and take a tylenol beforehand and as needed for the next while until the headaches go away. I did neither of these things so that might have played a role.

My wife and I went AZ-Moderna, got our second shots yesterday afternoon, and last night suuuuuucked. Usually, neo citran puts me out for hours and gives me weird dreams. Last night I had the weird dreams while mostly-wide-awake, which might've been fun without the headaches and sweating and freezing and feeling pain from every part of me that'd ever hurt and having snippets of old songs playing on repeat for hours on end. Also we walked like animatronic 90-year-olds. I didn't get out of bed much before two this afternoon.

My arm's still 3 degrees warmer than the rest of me and my joints and back hurt but eeh, it's better than covid.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

AegisP posted:

Kenora is very weird in comparison to the rest of Northern Ontario voting tendencies.

And let's not forget everyone's favourite senator Lynn Beyak is from Dryden.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
https://twitter.com/KyleHarrietha/status/1412550408283820043?s=19


Ha ha rip Greens

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
Moderna's oddly kicked my rear end like twice... fatigue hits about 6 days after the shot and sticks around for about 4 or 5... starting the second wave of it after my second shot and hopefully its not as bad as the first.

Real hard doing a 2-hour presentation when you can barely keep your eyes open.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Ah yes, the 'long covid vaccine"

Jam Band Death Cult
Feb 29, 2008

I'm Very Glad I'm Going To Be An Earl

Can someone post this?

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

flakeloaf posted:

Ah yes, the 'long covid vaccine"

Imagining a 10 foot needle.

Falstaff
Apr 27, 2008

I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

Jam Band Death Cult posted:

Can someone post this?

Green Leader Annamie Paul muted in virtual meeting as she argued against sweeping cuts to party staff posted:

OTTAWA—With the prospect of a federal election looming, the Green party’s interim executive director convened a virtual staff meeting last Wednesday to announce that nearly half of the party’s employees would soon be out of a job.

But when Green Leader Annamie Paul denounced the cuts, going back and forth with interim executive director Dana Taylor on a Zoom call, the embattled leader was told she was going to be put on mute.

Paul was seeking clarity about how many staff members would be laid off and from which departments, said a source at the meeting who spoke to the Star on the condition that they not be named.

Taylor, the source said, felt Paul already had the answers to the questions the leader was asking — a point the source disputed.

Before the leader could react to the warning, Taylor had his assistant turn off Paul’s microphone.

The attempt to silence the leader was met with shock and surprise from a number of staff members on the call, the source said.

Paul was asked to speak again only after two attendees refused to ask questions until the leader was able to finish her remarks.

Neither Paul nor Taylor were available to comment on the matter.

The testy exchange is the latest in an ongoing standoff between Paul and members of the party’s federal council, the most powerful governing body within the Greens.

According to a letter signed by Taylor and sent to staff, the party will be slashing the number of people it employs by 15 positions. Senior-level positions, including the leader, are excluded from the cuts.

Affected employees were meant to be informed of their fate July 3, with the layoffs planned to come into effect on Thursday. Employees were also asked if they would accept “voluntary layoffs.” Two party insiders told the Star that it’s not yet known who was let go, though the cuts could affect anyone from the party’s governance, communications, campaign and technical support arms.

Staff were told they could be asked back at a later date, if the party’s “situation improves.”

At the Wednesday staff meeting, the source told the Star that financial concerns were cited as a reason for the cuts.

According to data provided by Elections Canada, the party brought in just over $100,000 more in fundraising in the first quarter of 2021, when Paul was leader, than it did during the same period last year.

The source told the Star that the party had also raised more funds in June of this year — the same month former Green MP Jenica Atwin crossed the floor to the Liberals — than it did during the same month in 2020.

Aside from an impending election, the layoffs come at an unusual time, said Sean Yo, who managed Paul’s campaign in a federal byelection last year.

The party recently posted its intent to hire an operations manager on its website, which was taken down Monday. The position, considered to be a senior role within the party, involves supervising and managing the party’s operational staff.

“The role itself seems to be substantially redundant with the executive director role,” Yo told the Star. “But... literally days before they made the layoff announcement, to post a new management role, really didn’t seem to add up to me.”

Compounding the internal strife — which the Star first reported on back in April — the ultimatum presented to Paul last month calling on her to repudiate a former senior adviser or face a vote of non-confidence in her leadership has evaporated.

The Green party will convene a special federal council meeting on July 20 to put forward the vote, according to a letter viewed by the Star.

The letter — read by interim party president Liana Canton Cusmano at a town hall held for members following last Wednesday’s staff meeting — claims Paul failed to “openly condemn the actions” of her former adviser Noah Zatzman. Cusmano also said Paul failed to “collaborate with and support members of the caucus” with respect to Zatzman’s comments, and failed to “respond to communications” from the party about his remarks.

In May, Zatzman, who has now taken a step back from his adviser role, accused unnamed Green MPs and other politicians of stoking anti-Semitism and discrimination, pledging to defeat unspecified MPs. His comments came after Atwin publicly criticized Paul’s stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, in which the then-Green MP stated: “I stand with Palestine and condemn the unthinkable airstrikes in Gaza. End Apartheid.”

In an email to the Star on Tuesday, Zatzman condemned the letter, calling it “further evidence of an organization whose leadership fosters a culture of systemic anti-Semitism and discrimination.” Paul, he wrote, “was elected by a majority of party members to change this, and I have faith that she will.”

Cusmano also alleged that Paul’s tenure as leader has led to cancelled party memberships and dwindling donations.

In a statement to the Star, the party says its numbers are only growing.

“We are excited to see that our donations, and number of donors, continues to climb. Since electing Annamie Paul as leader, the Green Party of Canada has enjoyed an increase in donations each quarter, when compared to the same period in the previous year,” the statement read.

For the upcoming vote of non-confidence to succeed, at least 75 per cent of the federal councillors must vote in its favour. If that result is achieved, party members will participate in a final vote to determine Paul’s fate at a general members’ meeting on August 21.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
In what sense is the prospect of a federal election looming, at least in any way that it hasn't been since October 21, 2019?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

infernal machines posted:

In what sense is the prospect of a federal election looming, at least in any way that it hasn't been since October 21, 2019?

The appointment of a new governor General is step one since they need one before an election can be called.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jul 7, 2021

Orthanc6
Nov 4, 2009

infernal machines posted:

In what sense is the prospect of a federal election looming, at least in any way that it hasn't been since October 21, 2019?

I think it might honestly be the case of everyone expecting it so much that everyone is going through the motions regardless. Like I can see why the Liberals would want to have one, aside from the legislation gridlock that usually triggers one, but that can be made up overnight if they really want to get the ball rolling.

Not the worst idea for the opposition be pro-active, unless of course the thing doesn't actually happen and you end up wasting those resources. But the media drumming it up is probably because COVID is ending, and Trump is gone, so they'll have a dearth of big stories in the near future and want to get ahead of that.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Arcsquad12 posted:

The appointment of a new governor General is step once since they need one before an election can be called.

Oh, that hadn't occurred to me, but yeah. I guess it being literally impossible to dissolve the government would make it harder.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
“There will be an election this Winter!”

“Oh boy, we better purchase some ad time!”

“Nuh huh. Not so fast. I didn’t say Simon Says.”

yippee cahier
Mar 28, 2005

infernal machines posted:

Oh, that hadn't occurred to me, but yeah. I guess it being literally impossible to dissolve the government would make it harder.

I think the chief justice of the supreme court was covering for the formal duties in the meantime. There’s a lawyer on local talk radio and he mentioned the only problem with that arrangement would be possibly being put in the position of giving royal assent to a bill and then later on finding it unconstitutional.

thehoodie
Feb 8, 2011

"Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"

infernal machines posted:

In what sense is the prospect of a federal election looming, at least in any way that it hasn't been since October 21, 2019?

JT shaved his beard

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
liberals want to spend 15 billion dollars on a train through peterborough lol

train promises = election

so it has always been

ChickenDoodle
Oct 22, 2020

thehoodie posted:

JT shaved his beard

He did?!

Oh thank god, this entire time he looked like my ex-roommate and I kept wanting to punch his face in.

Now I can do that because he looks like JT. What a relief.

linoleum floors
Mar 25, 2012

Please. Let me tell you all about how you're all idiots. I am of superior intellect here. Go suck some dicks. You have all fucking stupid opinions. This is my fucking opinion.
Beards make it harder to do full blackface

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

Starks posted:

Wait we have an ambassador for circumpolar affairs? What?

We did, not since 2006 though. It was a pretty short-lived position. From what I can tell the role was to represent Canada on the Arctic Council in a more permanent way, and with someone who's actually from the northern regions of Canada and knows what's going on. They cut it for financial reasons and because there was a lot of overlap with existing ambassadors to the nations in the Council. The relevant duties are just done by some civil servant now.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



thehoodie posted:

JT shaved his beard

He's back to looking like a nerd again.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

RBC posted:

liberals want to spend 15 billion dollars on a train through peterborough lol

train promises = election

so it has always been

I would like there to be a train to Peterborough. It would make visiting my friends a lot easier and as long as it's GO, be significantly cheaper than taking VIA to Belleville.

Also, just in general, I'd like to see a lot more rail infrastructure through rural Ontario

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

linoleum floors posted:

Beards make it harder to do full blackface

Also, it is well known that beards are a gateway drug to full-blown socialism.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Pallister is up spewing bullshit.

"We're not a perfect country but compared to others we're much better."

"To the people tearing down statues, we need to build better."

"The people who came to this country didn't come here to destroy, they came here to build better."

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYOA_ciyS6c

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
We don't need to celebrate our failures, we need to show how we're complex people!

linoleum floors
Mar 25, 2012

Please. Let me tell you all about how you're all idiots. I am of superior intellect here. Go suck some dicks. You have all fucking stupid opinions. This is my fucking opinion.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Pallister is up spewing bullshit.

"We're not a perfect country but compared to others we're much better."

"To the people tearing down statues, we need to build better."

"The people who came to this country didn't come here to destroy, they came here to build better."

I'm so loving sick of this catchphrase

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009
"Violent protests aren't effective" says the man in charge of the Province that famously hosted the General Strike of 1919 which involved street battles with police and military personnel, property damage and ushered in new labour legislation as a result. For gently caress's sake, an overturned streetcar is now a monument itself to a very effective violent protest.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

infernal machines posted:

I would like there to be a train to Peterborough. It would make visiting my friends a lot easier and as long as it's GO, be significantly cheaper than taking VIA to Belleville.

Also, just in general, I'd like to see a lot more rail infrastructure through rural Ontario

I would like it too. Still makes no sense whatsoever. It's 100% a carrot to hang for people to vote liberal in a bellwether riding. Just like it was when Del Mastro promised it ten years ago.

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
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Willatron posted:

"Violent protests aren't effective" says the man in charge of the Province that famously hosted the General Strike of 1919 which involved street battles with police and military personnel, property damage and ushered in new labour legislation as a result. For gently caress's sake, an overturned streetcar is now a monument itself to a very effective violent protest.

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Willatron posted:

"Violent protests aren't effective" says the man in charge of the Province that famously hosted the General Strike of 1919 which involved street battles with police and military personnel, property damage and ushered in new labour legislation as a result. For gently caress's sake, an overturned streetcar is now a monument itself to a very effective violent protest.

Says the man who rules a province that literally only exists due to one.

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