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| BUCKS VS KING AND PENTA |
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27 | 29.35% |
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| MIRO VS PILLMAN |
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6 | 6.52% |
| MJF VS SAM |
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57 | 61.96% |
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drat that sammy vlog was great. I also didn't mean for my Dark GDT last night to take over as the main thread, but the old one is closed now. I do kind of like the idea of a single weekly GDT for Elevation & Dark that just hangs around as a discussion thread until the next week. potentially separated if they end up feeling like distinctly different shows.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:25
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Pylons posted:Also, yeah, they seem to like Penelope and Bunny and Deeb being gatekeepers. Deeb and Bunny I can understand, but Penelope is really inconsistent and they'd be better off with someone like Diamante in that spot.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:28
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Defenestrategy posted:They might think they don't need her, considering the joshi's can start to regularly come in and out of the states [emi/yuka/riho] it's not like the show is hurting for women even with Anna Jay out on injury. I mean Leva hasn't been seen outside of BTE in a long time, Mel was probably sitting out for covid, they're not doing anything with Jade beyond hawking coupons, Penelope and Bunny are only now getting more ring time. Clearly they don't think they need her but that's just insane to me. Of the 20 women on the official AEW roster, two are based in Japan (now that Riho is US based), another two--Brandi and Leva--aren't consistently wrestling (even putting aside maternity leave), and Mel was never meaningfully part of the roster (and is terrible) which means that a full quarter of the roster is essentially missing. On paper, Diamante is exactly the sort of wrestler they need; a consistent, mid-card scrapper who could be a face or a heel depending on what they need. I have always been inclined to roll my eyes at the people who say that AEW doesn't care about the women's division but I think there might be more validity to it know than I did an hour ago.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:30
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With things opening back up it's kinda important to have indies again. AEW can't sign everyone, but if AEW doesn't pull the Triple H strategy of robbings the indies then standout talents can make good money for a 1-2 month tour then go home and draw bigger gates with their usual company. I don't live in a big wrestling market but if my local indie guy is suddenly on AEW for a month it's probably going to bring in casual AEW fans to the shows.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:30
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CombineThresher posted:Deeb and Bunny I can understand, but Penelope is really inconsistent and they'd be better off with someone like Diamante in that spot. Maybe. Forgot to list Velvet too.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:31
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Diamante will be back
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Jul 7, 2021 18:33
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I'm not a fan of Diamante but I thought she was signed already. I never posted this but in my opinion they should sign a bunch like Diamante and Kilynn King.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:33
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Defenestrategy posted:They might think they don't need her, considering the joshi's can start to regularly come in and out of the states [emi/yuka/riho] it's not like the show is hurting for women even with Anna Jay out on injury. I mean Leva hasn't been seen outside of BTE in a long time, Mel was probably sitting out for covid, they're not doing anything with Jade beyond hawking coupons, Penelope and Bunny are only now getting more ring time. Abadon has been murdering people on Dark. Thunder Rosa and Serena may as well be AEW now. Just to point out Serena has been AEW for a long time, people just keep thinking she's NWA cause she had the title. Also I just think it's a big weird that AEW would just immediately dump all the people they picked up in Florida and go right back to depending on the Joshis to just be the entire women's division again, as if we weren't still in the midst of a global crisis that impacts people's ability to travel internationally. I mean Japan literally just went into another state of emergency after a massive covid spike, it's entirely possible they have to shut down travel again and now we're just right back where we were in February 2020.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:35
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I feel like some of these people who aren't signed are still going to show up again in the future when they're in the same areas and such.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:35
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Drakkel posted:Just to point out Serena has been AEW for a long time, people just keep thinking she's NWA cause she had the title.  Half of their current women's roster are from the pandemic era
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Jul 7, 2021 18:38
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Everyone can't get signed. There is a lot of talent and competition at AEW and difficult decisions have to be made. I'm sure nobody has thought those decisions through more than Tony Khan and the EVP's with the company, and all of them know more about who will be a good fit with what they're doing on a day-to-day basis than we do.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:39
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AEW why must you toy with my emotions Fuego nooooo  Diamante's fine but she's not like an essential pickup. She's not been on Dynamite in months
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Jul 7, 2021 18:40
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Rarity posted:Diamante's fine but she's not like an essential pickup. She’s not been on Dynamite in months  
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Jul 7, 2021 18:42
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Have absolutely no clue how you could see the division in the pandemic dark era and the division now and conclude they're exactly the same.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:42
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fawning deference posted:Everyone can't get signed. There is a lot of talent and competition at AEW and difficult decisions have to be made. I'm sure nobody has thought those decisions through more than Tony Khan and the EVP's with the company, and all of them know more about who will be a good fit with what they're doing on a day-to-day basis than we do. username post combo! Seriously, I'm sure people will get spots. Just not right now. AEW, like every major TV promotion has to deal with injuries and replacements due to injuries. There will be plenty of opportunities. And my understanding is the internal focus is on people who can do more than just work matches and bullshit in the back.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:42
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lol at Abadon on this list
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Jul 7, 2021 18:43
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Shida not making it on Dynamite in any capacity after losing the belt is insane.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:44
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Diamanté was at Britt’s hamburger party, Also, not that it matters, but Fightful reported last week that yes, Mel is still on the roster, but no they’re not planning on using her again anytime soon. Apparently she never dropped her day job and has been doing that and local indies.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:46
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Just had a thought. Orange Cassidy: TNT Champ or AEW Champ Kris Statlander: AEW Women's Champ Best Friends: Tag Champs could be done at any point they want to. Though Orange as AEW Champ feels like it would be a transitional kind of thing (right now)
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Jul 7, 2021 18:49
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Just had a thought. WARDLOW: TNT Champ or AEW Champ WARDLOW: AEW Women's Champ WARDLOW and WARDLOW: Tag Champs could be done at any point they want to.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:51
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Rarity posted:AEW why must you toy with my emotions Fuego nooooo That bit at the end of the vlog got me pretty good. I was like after all the Friendlympics stuff, you're just gonna resolve it like THAT -- and then they cut back and Cody's insanity gave me hope
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Jul 7, 2021 18:55
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I want more spooky stuff, AEW. do more spooky stuff.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:57
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Just had a thought. 
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Jul 7, 2021 18:58
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Just had a thought. 
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Jul 7, 2021 18:59
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I'm fine with Shida dropping back to Elevation or the undercard to prove herself worthy of another rematch. She beat everyone on the roster at least once and she was (In kayfabe) upset about it enough to cut half her hair off and start from the bottom. Former champions should either have something lined up unrelated to the title they lost (Like Jericho/Inner Circle having another storyline) or use their clout to help build new people.
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Jul 7, 2021 18:59
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I just think there should probably be (at least) two women's matches on most dynamites
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Jul 7, 2021 19:01
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Honestly AEW's biggest problem is they have a lot of stuff I want to see more of and not enough tv time to do it all. I think the women's division gets the shaft more than the others but I'm hopeful these problems will be fixed once Rampage starts up.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:01
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Shida's gonna start a fight club
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Jul 7, 2021 19:02
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coconono posted:Shida's gonna start a fight club Given how well she booked the women's title tournament, I'd trust her with something like that.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:03
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Shard posted:Honestly AEW's biggest problem is they have a lot of stuff I want to see more of and not enough tv time to do it all. I think the women's division gets the shaft more than the others but I'm hopeful these problems will be fixed once Rampage starts up. yeah, I'm not holding my breath tbh.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:06
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Just got this in my email: https://www.allelitecrate.com/
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Jul 7, 2021 19:06
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I'm excited for Rampage for this very reason. Realistically you're getting 4 or 5 matches on Dynamite, one or two being women's matches is actually about in line with how many people are on the roster and how many championships there are. They are pushing Britt hard in the advertising for Rampage (since it's in Pittsburgh) so I wonder if that means she'll get to main event again.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:07
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Diamante's arcs on Dark/Elevation made me wonder if they were testing her as a potential midcard fixture for when Rampage launches because she got multiple promos; I would be interested in seeing her come back in that capacity even if I don't think her ringwork makes her a must-sign. Plus she does the cool gun thing In general I hope going back on the road and getting an extra hour of TV time lest the company build up more stories outside of the title picture and faction warfare. People focus on the women's division but the amount of attention the tag teams get can wax and wane too, especially when the Bucks were more embroiled in Kenny-centric stories. And I assume the reason a bunch of solo men have been shuffled into tag teams or bigger groups is because you're seldom going to have time to make, say, a Scorpio Sky solo match on TV
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Jul 7, 2021 19:07
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dunno about the tag scene waning, feels like the Bucks put on absolute bangers with new teams ever single week
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Jul 7, 2021 19:11
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Vince MechMahon posted:Just got this in my email: I hope its random wrestler gear like hangman's used socks.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:12
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The tag scene has heated back up with the FTR vs. Santana and Ortiz feud (which is probably one of my favorite builds right now) but for a while it was in the same situation the women's division was - The Acclaimed or Varsity Blonds would build up their records on Dark and Elevation then lose on Dynamite, either in a title match or to make someone elses win look more impressive, then they'd go back to Dark or Elevation.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:13
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I said it before and I know people groan and I admit I'm really pessimistic about it. I'll try to lighten up about it going forward. That said, you can make some pretty easy comparisons between how other divisions champions are treated post-loss. Like, Jericho and Moxley and Cody all transitioned right into new stories after losing their titles, FTR kinda floated around for a bit then joined Pinnacle. SCU went into a Dark Order feud for a while but that just kinda stopped once Brodie appeared and now they're dissolved so I'd say they probably got the worst of it for the men. Meanwhile, Riho lost the title and (understandably) vanished until she was able to come back for the tournament, but after that just vanished again. Nyla lost the title and then her story after that was "I never get booked anymore and I'm pissed off" until Vickie came along and then her story became "Actually I don't even wanna be on the show" until the tournament happened, then didn't do much until the Baker feud started. Shida lost the title and got a haircut. Also I don't think you can really call "She's just farming Dark to grind her way back up unto the rankings" a storyline cause that can basically describe everyone who wrestles on Dark.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:16
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xbilkis posted:Diamante's arcs on Dark/Elevation made me wonder if they were testing her as a potential midcard fixture for when Rampage launches because she got multiple promos; I would be interested in seeing her come back in that capacity even if I don't think her ringwork makes her a must-sign. Plus she does the cool gun thing He's a great second to Ethan in his long-time feud against Darby because his directly rival is Sting. Sting also gets the benefit of working with Scorpio who a long-time vet, a former AEW champ, and a very safe worker. Sting gets his "You've still got it" moments with Scorpio, while Scorpio can still get heel heat against Sting because he's so safe and then Darby and Ethan Page can just beat the poo poo out of each other. It gets all four guys over.
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Jul 7, 2021 19:16
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Yeah FTR/PNP is basically the platonic ideal of a non-championship feud and I would hope AEW could pull it off a lot more in the upper midcard. Obviously it helps to have the Pinnacle/Inner Circle backdrop to heighten the intensity, but at its core you've got two really good tag teams who are fighting for a chance to move up the card. Right now you could pick two names from Shida/Deeb/Tay/Statlander/Riho/Thunder Rosa/etc. and set em up to feud over being next in line after Nyla
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Jul 7, 2021 19:17
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Drakkel posted:I said it before and I know people groan and I admit I'm really pessimistic about it. I'll try to lighten up about it going forward. You tried to make this point a few days ago and I see since you were told it was wrong you had to change it up just slightly, but Nyla was on the next show after she lost the title. Meanwhile Moxley was gone for weeks after he lost the belt. She had a title match in between picking up Vickie and the tournament too!
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