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indigi posted:thanks that actually clears up a lot of my questions. does the US have a horse in the race or are they too busy trying to consolidate against China I'm not sure how accurate that was, but when this started we had reports of UAE involvement on the government side. Edit: And the UAE is where all the US mercs hang out. genericnick has issued a correction as of 08:21 on Jul 6, 2021 |
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The USA was the unwitting agent behind ending the long running tension between Tajikistan and the Taliban. We couldn't have screwed up more if we tried.
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The Taliban: lower taxes, ease of business, friendly foreign policy Fiscally liberal, socially conservative
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Taliban: lower taxes, ease of business, friendly foreign policy iirc, two lessons come down from the ages as to how to hold onto occupied or conquered territory: 1. Maintain and continue the local power structures, traditions, laws, and customs 2. Reduce taxes and impositions there is an optional third lesson, establish cities and send colonies, which Alexander the Great made famous with "Alexandria," now known in Afghanistan as Kandahar. Had George W. wanted to tame Afghanistan, he would have obeyed lessons 1&2. If he wanted to also conquer Afghanistan, he should have moved himself and the government structure to Kandahar or Kabul. George W. Bush did none of these things. It is not impossible to invade and control Afghanistan. The area is a strategic crossroads and armies have poured in from the north, west, and south. And not without success. Both Babur and Alexander numbered Afghanistan as one of their many conquests. Someone in the Taliban is paying close attention to presenting a better option than the current government. I don't know how long the Afghan state will last but it can't be long.
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look i get that doing things that people like is a strategy you can pursue to make people like you but have you ever considered that doing things that people like is against our moral principles
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https://twitter.com/_hudsonc/status/1412458295588163584?s=20 The Tigray conflict is getting more Western coverage as well https://twitter.com/HelenClarkNZ/status/1411671871750242304?s=20 Here the TPLF spokesman says the government and Amhara forces blowing the bridges was primarily about stopping the TPLF advance. https://twitter.com/CNNAfrica/status/1412386559702220804?s=20
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https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1412422312394100747 https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1412396283751436288 lol meanwhile from the other side. https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1412363125203030016 https://twitter.com/markc_anderson/...%5Es1_&ref_url= PawParole has issued a correction as of 19:39 on Jul 6, 2021 |
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Jul 6, 2021 19:43
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another drone attack against US positions in Iraq https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/1412556506021744647?s=20 https://twitter.com/OIRSpox/status/1412527521392963589?s=20
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Ethiopia's corrupt government is on the run!
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Nonsense posted:Ethiopia's corrupt government is on the run! ?
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Why is the NYT whining so hard about the Afghanistan withdrawal? I thought it was basically bipartisan consensus at this point seeing as that Trump started this. I also see alot of comparisons to Vietnam as well and it seems like the revisionist history of the Vietnam war has become dominant in US media.
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ToxicAcne posted:Why is the NYT whining so hard about the Afghanistan withdrawal? I thought it was basically bipartisan consensus at this point seeing as that Trump started this. I also see alot of comparisons to Vietnam as well and it seems like the revisionist history of the Vietnam war has become dominant in US media. the US establishment does not actually want to withdraw from Afghanistan. The military was basically openly disobeying Trump when he gave orders that even made noises about trying to do it
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ToxicAcne posted:Why is the NYT whining so hard about the Afghanistan withdrawal? I thought it was basically bipartisan consensus at this point seeing as that Trump started this. I also see alot of comparisons to Vietnam as well and it seems like the revisionist history of the Vietnam war has become dominant in US media. 
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https://twitter.com/TomtheBasedCat/status/1412740853496430603?s=20 Another rocket attack against US forces in Iraq
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gradenko_2000 posted:the US establishment does not actually want to withdraw from Afghanistan. The military was basically openly disobeying Trump when he gave orders that even made noises about trying to do it So why is Biden insistent on it then?
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ToxicAcne posted:So why is Biden insistent on it then? it does seem kind of weird combined with the full court press they’re trying to put on China to abandon territory on their border
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what is he implying needs to be fixed? that there’s an ongoing war, or that they can’t get juicy pics to profit off of?
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indigi posted:what is he implying needs to be fixed? that there’s an ongoing war, or that they can’t get juicy pics to profit off of? That there is a massive war and no one has the slightest idea what's happening. Ethiopia has like 120 million people and yet we had no real indication that a war was about to start, or if it started, that the TPLA would just roll up whole army formations. At least in Syria we had some clear indications of how people were lying to us.
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genericnick posted:That there is a massive war and no one has the slightest idea what's happening. Ethiopia has like 120 million people and yet we had no real indication that a war was about to start, or if it started, that the TPLA would just roll up whole army formations. At least in Syria we had some clear indications of how people were lying to us. I guess I’m still not sure what problem this fixes. I’m sure it didn’t come as a surprise to anyone involved in the actual conflict
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indigi posted:what is he implying needs to be fixed? that there’s an ongoing war, or that they can’t get juicy pics to profit off of? It's simple: We need an Ethiopian Caro
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indigi posted:I guess I’m still not sure what problem this fixes. I’m sure it didn’t come as a surprise to anyone involved in the actual conflict The problem is that our media are poo poo op.
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ToxicAcne posted:Why is the NYT whining so hard about the Afghanistan withdrawal? I thought it was basically bipartisan consensus at this point seeing as that Trump started this. I also see alot of comparisons to Vietnam as well and it seems like the revisionist history of the Vietnam war has become dominant in US media.
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indigi posted:I guess I’m still not sure what problem this fixes. I’m sure it didn’t come as a surprise to anyone involved in the actual conflict like 500,000 people have died in the last two years, and not a wimper from western media
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ToxicAcne posted:Why is the NYT whining so hard about the Afghanistan withdrawal? I thought it was basically bipartisan consensus at this point seeing as that Trump started this. I also see alot of comparisons to Vietnam as well and it seems like the revisionist history of the Vietnam war has become dominant in US media. gradenko_2000 posted:the US establishment does not actually want to withdraw from Afghanistan. The military was basically openly disobeying Trump when he gave orders that even made noises about trying to do it also you have people who think exactly like cia pete and have resource maps of afghanistan hung up in their homes to gaze and ponder at every morning they have their coffee these people are always constantly hollering about why it's bad to be withdrawing
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Didn't realize how the alliance between the UAE and Saudi Arabia has weakened. The FT has an article with a similar analysis as well. https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1412501689265950726?s=20 And speaking of the UAE https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1412866577310040067?s=20
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comedyblissoption posted:theyre angling for canceling the withdraw and doing another "surge" 
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indigi posted:it does seem kind of weird combined with the full court press they’re trying to put on China to abandon territory on their border I mean the real answer is there isn’t a coherent establishment position but a battle between two sides with the warhawks usually winning
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https://twitter.com/DXBMediaOffice/status/1412875336543571974?s=19 Damage, if any, to the port is unclear. This is the busiest port for US warships outside the US.
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any indication this was something other than an accident?
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Atrocious Joe posted:Didn't realize how the alliance between the UAE and Saudi Arabia has weakened. I think this began with Yemen. UAE realized they were eating losses by throwing their resources into a money pit and just pulled out, which left the Saudis to pick up the slack as new separatists sprang up to take Aden.
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another rocket attack against the US embassy in Iraq https://twitter.com/nafisehkBBC/status/1412925940552904705?s=20
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think this began with Yemen. UAE realized they were eating losses by throwing their resources into a money pit and just pulled out, which left the Saudis to pick up the slack as new separatists sprang up to take Aden. Yeah, been some time, but didn't the Houthis send a drone over to Dubai airport? Which supposedly got some of the other emirates asking questions about their main guy's Yemen policy. And anyway, they had grabbed a few islands and their economic interests in the main country are with the southern secessionists around Aden so they had little to gain by continuing their involvement. And also MBS is a coke fueled punk who was always going to push Saudi Arabia's hegemonic status until the levers came off. He overplayed his hand with Qatar, Yemen and I assume now with the UAE.
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Not greatly impressed by that article, but this is a good point:"The Real Reason OPEC Talks Broke Down | naked capitalism posted:
"Opec impasse sees UAE ‘flexing its muscles’ against Saudi Arabia | Financial Times posted:Saudi Arabia’s threat to cut off multinationals from lucrative government contracts if they do not relocate their headquarters to Riyadh has been perceived as an implicit attack on Dubai, the UAE’s commercial hub where most are based. genericnick has issued a correction as of 09:01 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:another rocket attack against the US embassy in Iraq hmm well now there are U.S. troops who have the free time to redeploy to Iraq genericnick posted:And also MBS is a coke fueled punk who was always going to push Saudi Arabia's hegemonic status until the levers came off. He overplayed his hand with Qatar, Yemen and I assume now with the UAE. What do the Qataris and the Emiratis feel about one another? I think they're probably rivals but it would seem to be a no-brainer for all of these small Gulf states (Bahrain, Oman, etc.) to band up against the Saudis
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Iran is barking up the wrong tree
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