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just watch minidra or something, even the lucoa and saika ep of that was wholesome since ~1min isn't long enough to get up to anything
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on the other hand futa porn continues maidragon's trend of cutting to the heart of the lesbian experience
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https://twitter.com/RanobeSugoi/status/1412781918391730180 It's been a while since a PA Works 2-cour (we don't talk about Fairy Gone).
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Ibblebibble posted:https://twitter.com/RanobeSugoi/status/1412781918391730180 Really hope this one's good, been too long since I've really liked a PA Works thing, and this looks like the sort of pitch I'm usually on board with
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kater posted:This doesn’t sound fun. well i just finished the episode and it was pretty fun all this posting is apparently about the last five minutes of the episode, during which none of it comes to a head in favor of a cliffhanger
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the op has unseated Vanitas for best OP of the season (so far) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVV5Hh2RHoA
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giving the iroduku team 2 cours might just produce the slowest story ever told
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Tales of Woe posted:giving the iroduku team 2 cours might just produce the slowest story ever told I've gone to war for Adachi And Shimamura, I can handle slow if it's done right
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I liked Iroduku so I'm not complaining.
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I haven't watched, but most people in my usual circles seemed pretty down on Iroduku. That said, I saw the writer also did Tsuki Ga Kirei, which most people I know seemed really high on, so 
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Ibblebibble posted:https://twitter.com/RanobeSugoi/status/1412781918391730180 Their A3 adaptation was only last year (and boring, but).
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dogsicle posted:the op has unseated Vanitas for best OP of the season (so far) The first 15 seconds of this makes me think of the Nichijou OP and makes me wonder how syncable they are Edit: instead of an s3 of MaidDragon, can we get a season of the Kanna or Elma spinoffs? Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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They should make a spin-off all about Fafnir and the guy he lives with.
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InspectorCarbonara posted:They should make a spin-off all about Fafnir and the guy he lives with. Fafnir the secret best character in the show
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Jul 8, 2021 15:27
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That has to be the most open secret of all time.
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he's boring
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Dragon Maid s2e1 was fun, and also stupid and trashy. I liked it. I was expecting a lot worse.
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no one will ever guess my dark horse in this race
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Space Flower posted:no one will ever guess my dark horse in this race The racehorses were a few seasons ago, how long do you plan to keep this from us
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Space Flower posted:no one will ever guess my dark horse in this race lol picking a single one when you can just have all three of Kanna, Tohru, and Iruru
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i was going to say saikawa actually, which is in turn support for kanna, iruru, and the gotou yuuko sister-maid
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Iruru is great so far. Top tier dragon, would gladly stand in awe while she burninated the countryside and seized treasures for her dragon hoard.
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Yeah it was nice, looked better visually than I expected from the trailers. Something about the tone gave me more of an Adachi And Shimamura vibe than I entirely expected.
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InspectorCarbonara posted:They should make a spin-off all about Fafnir and the guy he lives with. I think that exists.
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Bokutachi no Remake didn't do much for me. Maybe the author himself should've paid more attention during the class on the ten essentials of screenwriting, because the script lacks any sort of hook or conflict so far. It all seems extremely predictable (obviously all three roommates are going to turn out to be members of the Platinum Generation), and there doesn't seem much of a point to the time travel aspect beyond general wish fulfillment.
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RIP that Kakegurei author's new manga got cancelled; it actually looked interesting but I guess the characters as parodies cut too close to the bone. Maybe they can change the designs a little to make it work? Because I really would have loved to know how a dedicated individual goes up against some of the cheat skills that make up some of the more prominent manga's. I also think it would have been interesting to have a work that bluntly critique's some of the blind spots of some of those series, but I guess it was flying too close to the sun.
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Was it ever translated anywhere? I'm really curious that he apparently used Bakarina along with all the popular male isekai leads.
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Raenir Salazar posted:RIP that Kakegurei author's new manga got cancelled; it actually looked interesting but I guess the characters as parodies cut too close to the bone. Maybe they can change the designs a little to make it work? While being published under Kadokawa. The mangakas were pissed.
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Sindai posted:Was it ever translated anywhere? I'm really curious that he apparently used Bakarina along with all the popular male isekai leads. Not sure about the translation, but the ANN thread for the article about the cancellation had some interesting arguments about it. The impression I get is that it was in pretty questionable taste. I think there's a good story to be told about certain types of isekai "heroes" as villains, but the manga seemed to be arbitrarily making very direct parodies of specific rather inoffensive isekai protagonists into grotesquely evil villains. A Caterina parody being an antagonist in some capacity sort of makes sense, since part of the premise of her series is that she would have been the villainess if she hadn't bumped her head at the right time. And the main characters from Overlord and Tanya the Evil are outright bad guys already, of course. But making the main character from Wise Man's Grandchild or By the Grace of the Gods or something like that a rapist villain the way the Kakegurei guy's manga did just seems gratuitous. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Tamba posted:The first episode of Aquatope was good and very pretty Yeah it seems promising.
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Raenir Salazar posted:RIP that Kakegurei author's new manga got cancelled; it actually looked interesting but I guess the characters as parodies cut too close to the bone. Maybe they can change the designs a little to make it work? Grouchio posted:It was trying to mock all of the successful isekai franchises of Kadokawa's. Sindai posted:Was it ever translated anywhere? I'm really curious that he apparently used Bakarina along with all the popular male isekai leads. it opened with a protagonist of one of the series raping a girl and all the other protagonists from the other series sitting around going 'yeah rape is good, good job you did there' and 'how will we create a society where we can do as much rape as we want' and also of the characters he chose none of them were remotely like that, two of them were from series aimed at women with entirely separate tropes and fantasies than the male power fantasy isekai he was basing it on, and two of them weren't even the isekai'd characters from their series. it also had a scene where the character basically turned directly to the camera and said that if you're a neet or get anything out of isekai you should kill yourself. i do not think, it was made in particularly good faith, and it's easy to see why the authors of the series were mad besides not being able to take criticism or whatever. it also just didnt really seem to have any understanding of what it was parodying at all. like there's this line,which is clearly meant to be a boom mic drop thing in the initial chapter  but... it doesnt describe 90% of the series at all. of all the criticisms you can make of rezero, i would not describe subaru's life as 'stress free' or without unexpected situations or mysteries. in fact those two things are the entire appeal. maybe its meant to describe wise man's grandson and there'd be other lines like that for the other protags, but wise man's grandson is an innocent nice guy not a sex monster so they're already way off the mark with him. the whole thing was just stupid and mean-spirited and it sucks it got reported on in the west as 'cancelled because they couldn't handle parody' and not 'cancelled because it was gross and awful.' Endorph fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Also from what was talked about earlier pretty sure the rapist was from a series that was not even a Isekai?
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MonsterEnvy posted:Also from what was talked about earlier pretty sure the rapist was from a series that was not even a Isekai?
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Yeah, I dunno why the dude felt the need to burn a bunch of bridges all so he could make a lovely edgelord manga. I wonder if he wrote it because he got mad due to another story idea of his being rejected.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Yeah, I dunno why the dude felt the need to burn a bunch of bridges all so he could make a lovely edgelord manga. I wonder if he wrote it because he got mad because another story idea he had got denied.
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Endorph posted:nah, he was. he was the wise man's grandchild protag, which is isekai. the thing with wise man's grandchild tho is the isekai part of its premise is pretty perfunctory. he was reincarnated, not just plucked into the fantasy world, and he was raised in the woods by the greatest wizard in the world, basically the gandalf of the setting. so the gag is he's an uber-powerful wizard for his age but barely knows anything about social niceties. but for that gag to work he naturally can't really have his memories of growing up in the modern day. so there's stuff with him remembering what stuff from the modern day is, like modern astrology equipment and stuff, but he doesn't really have any social development or baggage from modern japan. it's kind of a weird premise and would probably work smoother if you just cut out the isekai part, lol. But Isekai = Money, so Isekai it was.
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Endorph posted:it opened with a protagonist of one of the series raping a girl and all the other protagonists from the other series sitting around going 'yeah rape is good, good job you did there' and 'how will we create a society where we can do as much rape as we want' and also of the characters he chose none of them were remotely like that, two of them were from series aimed at women with entirely separate tropes and fantasies than the male power fantasy isekai he was basing it on, and two of them weren't even the isekai'd characters from their series. I think you're off base here; I've been on the internet for a fairly long time and I've absolutely seen mean spirited spite parodies of popular things; I don't think its the case this was intended to be mean. You don't put in this much effort into something frivolously if they truly wanted to in a mean spirited way mock these other series. I think it was an attempt at a "rough" parody, by someone who felt they were in a position to do so; like how very close friends often insult or punch each other or pull pranks. I think it was likely that they made the likenesses of the characters so close was probably from a misidentified desire to pay their respects; like a comedy roast where you make jokes at the expense of yours friends. So I don't think it was written in an attempt to be mean, but because it saw a opening to engage with the genre constructively. Other examples come to mind that do this similarly were My Disciple Has Died Again and JK Haru as works that engaged with the genre constructively while still satirizing or parodying elements of the genre but without pulling their punches. As for the authors being mad; putting aside that we disagree for the moment as to the author's intent (which we'll apply Death to the Author to in a moment), while I can understand the very flawed and human desire to get upset when someone criticizes your work in a way that can come across as blunt or mean, but if we really think hard about this though, I think we should both realize that this anger (if it exists, I'm not sure if I read anywhere that any of the mangaka's in question expressed an opinion, but I may have missed it) is misplaced. People have a right to express themselves and parody is a well protected principle of free speech and discourse and even if this were completely in bad faith and gross, transgressive art has a right to exist to inform the dialogue. People are going to parody or insult your works, for every person that likes your works there's probably several that don't. SAO the Abridged Series literally exists and I don't think from what I've heard its as affectionate as DBZ is to its source material. If some of the mangaka's were mad I guess they're allowed to be mad but it shouldn't have gone so far as to have a work be put to a stop. I'm not really sympathetic when Loss as a meme exists as a normal everyday thing and I don't really see a difference. There are other things here, I'm not sure how you get that panel as being a criticism of Re;Zero specifically? It seems more like its deconstructing the isekai genre by describing the mindset of weak spiteful people suddenly being given overwhelming power over others would act and internalize it. I think its just a reference to the subsubsubsubgenre of "I died and went to another world and now I just want to kick back and relax" LN's and just adding a darker twist to it. All I'm saying is though is I thought at its core, a battle manga where one of the people who live in the Isekai goes head to head against cheat-skill reincarnations using wit and psychology would have been interesting and wish I got to see how it played out. Maybe you're right and the rest of the series would have made its degree of mean spiritness more apparent but I don't think that's clear from just two chapters and maybe it would have shifted its focus more on that aspect I found interesting with the parody characters just serving as a sort of familiar foil for the reader. "Ah I know how Subaru's Return by Death works this will be interesting, how do you stop that?" It seems like, just like in Slime Isekai or One Punch Man or Overlord the villains are overthetop irredeemably evil to provide an antagonist to the protagonist to put aside their doubts for the task they are pursuing. You had multiple parts going into this concept that on their own wouldn't have been at all objectionable but together became contentious. Addressing Death of the Author though, okay so lets put aside my benefit of the doubt to the author's intent, and just look purely at the art in question. Is it transgressive? Indisputably. Are there depictions that are heinous and unseemly? Definitely. Are there characters that bear a strong resemblance to other works, who are being parodies in a way that depicts them unfavourably, also yes. But is this in anyway uncharitable towards the authors of those other works? There are too many other works in existence that delve into similarish themes of "this character who is also supposed to be a hero is actually a huge jerk"; Applicability is what comes to mind here. That this work exists in the context of a larger pre-existing genre cultural superstructure; popular examples were picked not to call out those works in particular but because they are representative of tropes, conventions, cliches and archetypes that appear time and time again. "What if all the protagonists in a bunch of popular isekai works were all in the same world ruling the world as evildoers" is a pretty obvious narrative leap to make and this isn't really the first time I'm seeing something vaguely along these lines. Again, you could be right; but I don't think we'll ever know for sure with just two chapters and I think it is a shame.
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