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How do you blokes feel about Sterling's cheeky little dive in the footy last night
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Jul 8, 2021 11:56
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Z the IVth posted:Considering Halal and kosher ritual slaughter is essentially the same how does that fly? I *think* there might be some nitty gritty about who specifically you praise when you slaughter the animal that might not fly with some groups. It's been a while since I looked into it.
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Jul 8, 2021 11:59
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My partner wrote a dissertation on ritual slaughter and iirc halal and kosher are in theory kinda similar but actually quite subtly different. The big takeaway (lol) was I think that halal rules are a lot more flexible in that you can stun the animal beforehand as long as it could feasibly recover from that initial injury whereas kosher it needs to be mostly fully aware. Halal stuff is therefore a lot easier and cheaper to produce because only a few alterations to the process need to be made, which is why some places just do halal as standard even where their customers aren't mostly Muslim because it's nbd and simplifies things. Kosher stuff is made less and is more expensive so only really specialist places use it. Also, from a strict animal welfare position halal is far more humane than kosher, but the people who scream about cruel Muslim slaughter usually don't give a poo poo about the latter. Surprise surprise, it's just an excuse for islamophobia.
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Jul 8, 2021 12:03
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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ndroidApp_Other YOLO my dudes, it's fine to be patient zero for an exciting new variant as long as you personally aren't going to get sick from it!
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Jul 8, 2021 12:04
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One thing about these rules - they talk about England. Now, if you live in Wales, I'm not sure the rules have been announced yet. But, if you live in Wales and wanted to go abroad, it's most likely you will fly out from an England airport be it Heathrow, Gatwick, Bristol or Birmingham. So you fly back in to England - do the England rules apply or the Wales ones? (I don't expect anyone to know the answer to that - just a ponder.) ^^^ From the Graun link in the previous post: quote:The announcement, which will take effect from 19 July, could open up swathes of European tourist destinations such as Spain, Portugal and Greece to travellers, though countries could impose their own quarantine rules on arrivals from England. This is an important bit which never seems to enter the discussion! It's ok for England to loosen up but there's no guarantee that the other country will!
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Jul 8, 2021 12:12
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Miftan posted:I *think* there might be some nitty gritty about who specifically you praise when you slaughter the animal that might not fly with some groups. It's been a while since I looked into it. Like what Jaeluni posted, I was taught by Muslim teachers when younger that they would not have issues consuming kosher if halal was not available. I always assumed there wasn't a huge issue about which version of the magic sky god was being venerated. Or is it like MsWord where Religion 3.0 can accept God 1.0 but God 3.0 is incompatible with Religion 1.0.
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Jul 8, 2021 12:16
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Wizard Master posted:How do you blokes feel about Sterling's cheeky little dive in the footy last night   Combination of these two makes it look like a fair penalty to me, regardless of if you think Sterling went down pretty easily (your mum etc...)
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Jul 8, 2021 12:18
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ndroidApp_Other Everyone is going to get sick from it, that's the grand plan. A loving stupid and inhumane plan, but at least it's still a plan.
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Jul 8, 2021 12:21
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Z the IVth posted:Like what Jaeluni posted, I was taught by Muslim teachers when younger that they would not have issues consuming kosher if halal was not available. I always assumed there wasn't a huge issue about which version of the magic sky god was being venerated. Probably something like that to some extent. Muslims generally believe that the old testament is true and happened, whereas jews don't really accept the same about the Quran, but I'm not sure if halal slaughter has the 'this is dedicated to allah' bit, or it just has to not be dedicated to something else? Like I said, unsure, but kosher slaughter is pretty awful for the animals and has about 3 different tiers. There's a reason some airline meals come in 'kosher' and 'super koher' variant (no I am not making this up, that's what they're called)
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Jul 8, 2021 12:25
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Wizard Master posted:How do you blokes feel about Sterling's cheeky little dive in the footy last night England were a lot better at getting free kicks in general. In pro football if someone tries to take the ball off you, you put your body in the way, if they push your body you ragdoll and that's a foul. The other sport I'm watching atm is sumo where only at this cup have they started giving a poo poo about concussion in a sport where 200kg men charging headbutt eachother I like to think in footy the diving is actually them "selling" how powerful the other footballers are, like in WWE
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Jul 8, 2021 12:38
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Communist Thoughts posted:England were a lot better at getting free kicks in general. How dare you compare the king of sports to football? Absolutely shocking, I'm outraged at this disrespect to Terry Funk, Terry Gordy, Terry Taylor, Terry Richards aka Rhino, Terry Brunk aka Sabu, Magnum Terry Allan, Terry Boy, Black Terry, Mushiking Terry & possibly other wrestlers called Terry I can't remember off the top of my head. Wizard Master posted:How do you blokes feel about Sterling's cheeky little dive in the footy last night I thought it was exactly what I'd expect perfidious Albion to do, cheat.
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Jul 8, 2021 12:45
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A message to England from an Irishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twiFSfc8Xm0
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Jul 8, 2021 12:46
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forkboy84 posted:How dare you compare the king of sports to football? Absolutely shocking, I'm outraged at this disrespect to Terry Funk, Terry Gordy, Terry Taylor, Terry Richards aka Rhino, Terry Brunk aka Sabu, Magnum Terry Allan, Terry Boy, Black Terry, Mushiking Terry & possibly other wrestlers called Terry I can't remember off the top of my head. are you missing Terry Bollea on purpose
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Jul 8, 2021 13:12
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uruururughh!! i like watching footbol with the brutush people i am posutuvly gutting juggy with ut ururughghhghhgh two pints of lawguh und a dozen wut uggs baw keep!!!!
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Jul 8, 2021 13:32
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:If the nomination date for something is passed, something I would be interested in getting involved with but didn't think I stood a chance, and then there's an email comes round saying nomination dates extended.... is it safe to assume no one put themselves forward? (You can self-nominate. Noone in this organisation knows I exist!) Well I just submitted my self-nomination. Closing date is Tuesday so I thought I'd better just get on with it if I'm going to. Wrote my 300 words of 'what have I got to offer'. I feel a mix of 'what a cheek', 'who'll be interested in an old dodder whose been out of the field for years', and 'gently caress it what have I got to lose' and 'you never know'.
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Jul 8, 2021 13:41
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Loonytoad Quack posted:
From the refs viewpoint, it's a very valid call to give. That's what makes it a good dive, it's selling a contact that you can barely see from the view behind the goal but looks like a solid contact from the refs pitchside view.
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Jul 8, 2021 13:41
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Guavanaut posted:
Kneeling for the anthem is an American thing, the football equivalent - because it started in the domestic game where we don't play the anthem* - is done just before kickoff (in the premiership it was done *after* the whistle, in internationals we do it just beforehand because only England are doing it and there's massive shithouse potential if the game has officially started and your opposition are all kneeling). The England team loudly and enthusiastically sing the anthem which might cause some pursed lips around here but does a fantastic job of shutting up the gammonteratiat. * Yet. Well they do play it before the FA Cup Final and Charity Shield, but in both cases it's not an official part of the presentation in the way it is for internationals and American sports.
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Jul 8, 2021 13:43
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Nothingtoseehere posted:From the refs viewpoint, it's a very valid call to give. That's what makes it a good dive, it's selling a contact that you can barely see from the view behind the goal but looks like a solid contact from the refs pitchside view. its not a dive
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Jul 8, 2021 13:44
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all other countries inferior potassium 
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Jul 8, 2021 13:46
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Wizard Master posted:How do you blokes feel about Sterling's cheeky little dive in the footy last night I'd noticed that Sterling dived against the Euro last night. It began around 10pm, the same time as the penalty. Not sure if it had anything to do with the football though.
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Jul 8, 2021 13:47
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Jedit posted:I'd noticed that Sterling dived against the Euro last night. It began around 10pm, the same time as the penalty. Not sure if it had anything to do with the football though. 
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Jul 8, 2021 14:04
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What is a Six Sigma Black Belt? Got one coming to my work to give a talk. I Pressume its a load of bullshit?
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Jul 8, 2021 14:11
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It's a sociopathic oval office who will tell you to be more of a sociopathic oval office to appease moloch.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:13
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crispix posted:uruururughh!! i like watching footbol with the brutush people i am posutuvly gutting juggy with ut ururughghhghhgh two pints of lawguh und a dozen wut uggs baw keep!!!! To be fair, it seems that liking football is one of the few genuine things about KS.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:14
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Does it surpass his love of wet eggs? Or more accurately does it surpass crispix's version's love of wet eggs?
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Jul 8, 2021 14:16
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therattle posted:To be fair, it seems that liking football is one of the few genuine things about KS. The thought of kieth displaying any sort of genuine euphoria or excitement is so strange that even though I know this to be true, my mind can't accept it.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:18
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keep punching joe posted:What is a Six Sigma Black Belt? Got one coming to my work to give a talk. it is literally someone qualified in talking bollocks yeah
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Jul 8, 2021 14:21
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keep punching joe posted:What is a Six Sigma Black Belt? Got one coming to my work to give a talk. I used to be one of those... It's a bunch of statistical techniques to analyse problems 'mile deep' instead of 'mile wide'. Its goal is to give hard data to problems instead of the 'gut feel' so many managers go by. Eg when I did a project on a particular set of problems that the management were always taking the staff to task over, I found that far from being rubbishy, they were operating at over 3 sigma levels and that is pretty darn good for a manual system (You would want 5 or more for brain surgery or air traffic control though!) because the management did not analyse the process and had little understanding of exactly how many manual operations were involved in the process. Basically quite useful for problems that are 'normal distribution' ('bell curve' 'gaussian curve') eg number of defects in a batch of widgets. '1 sigma' is 1 standard deviation from the mean. So approx 68% of stuff is within 1 standard deviation either side of the mean. The numbers along the bottom of this graph are the sigmas.  6 sigma is 3.4 defects per million IIRC. They'll probably show you a picture of a target with random arrows sticking out of it, then one with all the arrows bunched together but not in the middle and then one with all the arrows stuck in the middle. DMAIC - define, measure, analyse, improve, control: define the problem and how to measure it measure it analyse your measurements improve the process control the process. erm... that's it without massive googling. (I left that about 14 years ago so am considerably rusty). It isn't so bad per se, but when you have your project set up meetings and the management rep says 'honesty' must be one of the values, they don't mean they being honest with the lower underlings in the project group but they expect honesty back up line. Weasly words. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Jul 8, 2021 14:26
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keep punching joe posted:What is a Six Sigma Black Belt? Got one coming to my work to give a talk. David Brent telling you to work smarter and harder will no help. but with bell curve graphs.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:27
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That Marx rap lmao
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Jul 8, 2021 14:28
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bell end graphs more like!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Jul 8, 2021 14:28
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Thanks Jaeluni, I understand far less now.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:31
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I am trying to imagine applying this to anything at work and I think I would have more luck if you told me to measure problems with a tape measure. Like this looks like statistics, not "how do things get done in a work environment and what would make them happen better"
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Jul 8, 2021 14:34
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keep punching joe posted:Thanks Jaeluni, I understand far less now. On your six sigma bingo card: 10 points if you see an image sort of like this: 
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Jul 8, 2021 14:34
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Agile but it's the 80s and you're making cars instead of programming computers.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:35
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Its literally cargo culting 80's management and process control techniques from Japanese car manufacturers and applying them to things that have no real bearing on them in actuality.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:38
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OwlFancier posted:I am trying to imagine applying this to anything at work and I think I would have more luck if you told me to measure problems with a tape measure. It's not applicable to every situation. But the fundamental 'use data not your manager's gut' is a pretty good approach IMHO. (Though this doesn't work with the right wing gammonati who don't give a monkey's cuss for facts and data.) I don't know what you do but I think it's something to do with supermarkets so for example you might have 1000 tins a week out of 100000 get chucked from tin damage. So you might want to reduce that level of waste. So you might investigate to see why they are damaged and work on that. Your manager might say it's because stacking staff are dropping them and generally not taking care, but find out instead it's some other completely different reason - I dunno maybe the door handles of the warehouse are denting tins (random idea there I have no clue really!)
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Jul 8, 2021 14:39
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Then the six sigma guy will say that the people handling the tins need more time per tin to handle them with care and your manager will nod and take notes and nothing will change. Oh except maybe you'll have a 15 minute stand up meeting every day and put some magnets on a whiteboard
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Jul 8, 2021 14:45
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Tarnop posted:Then the six sigma guy will say that the people handling the tins need more time per tin to handle them with care and your manager will nod and take notes and nothing will change. Oh except maybe you'll have a 15 minute stand up meeting every day and put some magnets on a whiteboard Yeah that too. At the end of the day if the management don't like what the six sigma guy says they'll just go by their guts anyway and not change the thing.
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Jul 8, 2021 14:47
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this is the kind of thing the senior management at work indulge in with much of their time but like several departments are operating badly because the IT systems that support their work are fundamentally flawed at the conceptual level because they dictated magical requirements to a third party instead of involving anyone who knows about software
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