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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

stev posted:

The older I get the more I think organised gambling should be illegal.

Problem is that like all vices it then gets pushed underground

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
This is really weird but I think I might have seen two of my favourite Youtubers within 24 hours of each other. Yesterday I thought I saw Jago Hazzard (in that a guy who looks a lot like I imagine he looks was filming with a mobile phone near Lewisham station) and today I'm 99.99% certain I saw Tom Scott just outside Canary Wharf (only 99.99% because he was wearing a mask, but from the nose up it looked exactly like him and he was even wearing that same maroon t-shirt).

This is the nearest I get to celebrity gossip and goddamnit I had to share it with *somebody*.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Municipal casinos.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Barry Foster posted:

Problem is that like all vices it then gets pushed underground

True. At the very least it should be treated the same as cigarettes - no advertising and massive warnings about the mental and financial devastation it causes.

The whole "If the fun stops" thing is just enabling at this point.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Barry Foster posted:

Shame really, that would've really owned the clearly super anxious guy

I don’t give a gently caress how anxious you are, you don’t abuse teenage wait staff for no reason when you could have had the order brought to your car,

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Guavanaut posted:

Municipal casinos.

Municipal pubs were a thing that was actually proposed back in the day

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


ThomasPaine posted:

who knew 25% of this stupid country just wants to close all the nightclubs down forever, very normal attitude
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=3pJZC-UR55Q&feature=share

...that took me back :)

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

ThomasPaine posted:

I had a fiver on a draw in the England-Denmark game and won just under twenty quid then stupidly chucked it all on one of those online wheel of fortune games the bookies have and turned it into £600, good day. I'm not sure whether this is an argument for casinos because that was pretty sick, or against them because now I definitely think I can magic money out of nothing and will probably blow all my cash trying to repeat the success after a few pints

The beauty of gambling and why it's so dangerous. Win? That was easy. I can win more! Lose? I'm sure to win next time. It's ready to pay out!

I'm glad I made a good chunk off bookies with matched betting before it turned garbage. They're a terrible lot.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
LOL



Source: heil

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
The only nightclubs I will allow to stay open:

- 24/7 hour german techno ones.

That is all.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
of course boomers want to close down nightclubs, they're places where people who aren't them go to have fun

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That is also the reasoning I use for why people going other places should have as much difficulty as possible.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

stev posted:

True. At the very least it should be treated the same as cigarettes - no advertising and massive warnings about the mental and financial devastation it causes.

The whole "If the fun stops" thing is just enabling at this point.

"if the fun stops" is just advertising. It implies it's fun, and obviously everyone thinks they'll stop if it stops being fun. It's stupid as hell.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
the first lockdown really was a paradise for busybodies

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Danger - Octopus! posted:

I used to live really near a 24 hour supermarket and honestly unless you needed to buy stuff they could only sell during regular hours i.e alcohol, then going shopping really late or in the very early morning was great if it fit with work/lifestyle. Just peace and quiet, and no messing around with queues. Loved it.

When i was working i loved doing my shopping after nightshift, 7:30 and nobody but shelfstackers and a few like minded shoppers.

For the first three months of the covid restrictions i got to drive on practically empty roads when they used to be crowded man that was relaxing. :)

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Miftan posted:

"if the fun stops" is just advertising. It implies it's fun, and obviously everyone thinks they'll stop if it stops being fun. It's stupid as hell.

"We told him to stop and yet he insisted on playing after the fun had stopped and how he's lost his house. Oh well. :smug:"

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
It’s not boomers who want nightclubs and curfews, it’s vaccine luddites.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Julio Cruz posted:

of course boomers want to close down nightclubs, they're places where people who aren't them go to have fun

so does this thread think it's all going to poo poo again or not? Make your loving mind up.

If the hospitals are getting flooded again, which they are, then yeah maybe you should close the nightclubs as well as lots of other things. Christ your loving stupid.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Regarde Aduck posted:

so does this thread think it's all going to poo poo again or not? Make your loving mind up.

It's almost like this thread has different people with different opinions!

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Regarde Aduck posted:


If the hospitals are getting flooded again, which they are

Not really

e: for context we're on an average of around 200k new cases per week atm, which is around the same as we had in mid-December. By contrast we're on around 450 daily hospital admissions now, while back then we were getting close to 2000. I'll take those numbers, 3/4 fewer admissions means we're nowhere close to capacity, and that's before you even get started on the argument that people are now being admitted for precautionary reasons more than they were when things were looking really desperate. Stop being such a doomer.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jul 8, 2021

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Regarde Aduck posted:

so does this thread think it's all going to poo poo again or not? Make your loving mind up.

If the hospitals are getting flooded again, which they are, then yeah maybe you should close the nightclubs as well as lots of other things. Christ your loving stupid.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the point of the survey was life 'after' covid (whenever and whatever that means)

Edit yes it is about 'permanent' restrictions, I went back and checked

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

learnincurve posted:

It’s not boomers who want nightclubs and curfews, it’s vaccine luddites.
The new mRNA weaving frames are putting all the good honest manual vaccine makers out of business.

Regarde Aduck posted:

so does this thread think it's all going to poo poo again or not? Make your loving mind up.
That has no bearing on whether nightclubs should be closed down permanently.

A bunch are going into black alert though.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
I'm honestly not sure if things are going to poo poo or not. Sure, numbers are shooting up right now, but with 90%+ of the population having antibodies from either vaccinations or already having had Covid, how many people are there left to infect?

I was looking at scientific projections of the current trends earlier on today and, as they were on a range between: "perfectly fine" and "perfectly awful", that wasn't much help either.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


This is the view from a nurse I know:



Which doesn't seem promising.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Regarde Aduck posted:

so does this thread think it's all going to poo poo again or not? Make your loving mind up.

If the hospitals are getting flooded again, which they are, then yeah maybe you should close the nightclubs as well as lots of other things.

other people have already pointed out this is about permanent closure of nightclubs, so I'll just highlight this:

Regarde Aduck posted:

Christ your loving stupid.

:laffo:

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jul 8, 2021

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Guavanaut posted:

A bunch are going into black alert though.

Yeah, but that's often to do with staff isolating and not being able to cover elective surgeries etc with the numbers, not a lack of material beds and resources. It's bad, but it's manageable with the right response. Also one of the two affected hospitals is a tiny, tiny place with barely 200 beds in Elgin, so it doesn't take much to overwhelm. It's bad obviously, but it doesn't reflect a nationwide crisis in the same way it did over winter. Major population centres are by and large coping.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

This is the view from a nurse I know:



Which doesn't seem promising.

I am not trying to be an rear end in a top hat and I know things are hard and scary for frontline healthcare workers, but it is very important to recognise that very few nurses are either epidemiologists or virologists. Same goes for most doctors. I know quite a few of these people and many of them are also extremely full of themselves and a good number are actually quite dumb outside of their niche, so I certainly wouldn't be taking any doomsaying they come out with any more seriously than anyone else.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 8, 2021

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I feel like we should know how exponential growth works at this point. Saying it's fine now is saying very little at all.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


mrpwase posted:

My college at Lancaster Uni was Pendle, which just meant more witches at halloween parties than you might otherwise expect.

In my own Uni days I was informed by my Cartmel brethren via a popular campus chant that Pendle take it up the arse. To which my response was generally "good for them."

Ah, the casual homophobia of the mid-late 00s. Heady days.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I feel like we should know how exponential growth works at this point. Saying it's fine now is saying very little at all.
haha britane will never learn things from things

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

ThomasPaine posted:


I am not trying to be an rear end in a top hat and I know things are hard and scary for frontline healthcare workers, but it is very important to recognise that very few nurses are either epidemiologists or virologists. Same goes for most doctors. I know quite a few of these people and many of them are also extremely full of themselves and a good number are actually quite dumb outside of their niche.

I currently care for young people with special needs and the greatest lesson I ever learned was when I met a ward sister on my first week who, and I poo poo you not, looked at the lad I was sitting next to and said “they are just like normal children really” I looked at her agog and then quietly told the specialist who immediately went very loudly ballistic at her on the ward.

The lesson learned was “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing”

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

OwlFancier posted:

I feel like we should know how exponential growth works at this point. Saying it's fine now is saying very little at all.

Yeah. Things are getting worse fast. We shouldn't wait until things are hosed to take action, that's how we got hundreds of thousands of dead in the first place.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

sebzilla posted:

In my own Uni days I was informed by my Cartmel brethren via a popular campus chant that Pendle take it up the arse. To which my response was generally "good for them."

Ah, the casual homophobia of the mid-late 00s. Heady days.

Do today's young teenagers still call everyone and everything gay? Or would they get shut down by their "woke" classmates? I have no connection to today's youth, so I'm wondering how much it's changed in the last 20 years.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
average case numbers are actually beginning to level off slightly

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Guavanaut posted:

A bunch are going into black alert though.

Nurse friend told me that Brighton are clearing down ITU wards in preparation.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
IMO we should have imposed a full stay at home lockdown a year ago, and enforced hotel managed quarantine for everyone entering the country. We should also have co-ordinated this with our allies in the EU and NATO to ensure similar restrictions abroad as Covid is a legitimate national security issue for both blocs. If this had been done we could probably have been running more or less normally for the past 12 months.

If there are any lessons to be learned, its that you just can't half arse a pandemic, and allow polticians to do cost/benefit decision making based on the economy and whims of capital.

We should also be locking down now, and vaccinating children.

edit:

And I say this very much as someone who is normally of the opinon that the police are scum and libs should be marched to the nearest wall.

keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 8, 2021

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
So Mission Accomplished has driven down vaccine take-up amongst the younger ages

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/vaccine-uptake-coronavirus-england-near-halves-mixed-messages-manchester-sheffield-19-july

I joined the 2nd AZ crowd this afternoon.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral


He presumably wrote this because he thinks it shows him in a favorable light?

quote:

Rupert Matthews is the Police and Crime Commissioner for Leicestershire and Rutland.

Day 1 as Police and Crime Commissioner for Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland. I sit at my desk, Lord of all I survey. But something is missing. My eyes scan the room and fall on the door flapping open in the breeze from the window. Ah!

I stick my head out of the door and ask my new PA if I can have a lock and handle on the door so that I can secure it.

“Why do you want a lock on the door”, asks a passing member of staff.

“So I can lock it,” I reply.

First order of business is to meet the staff in the OPCC [Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner]. Of course, they’re not actually there as they are all working from home. I decide that I will call them all in for a meeting on the Monday. Apparently that is a problem as there is only one room in the entire police estate big enough.

Just how many staff have I got?

Apparently not enough. In addition to the 28 staff on the staffing diagram I’ve been given, we are currently recruiting two more. I put a pause on the recruitment process until I have had time to make up my own mind if I need even more staff.

Hmmm. I wonder what other decisions were taken by my predecessor just as he was leaving office.

Day 2.

I arrive to find a workman hammering away at my office door. He is fitting the lock.

“Can I have one of the keys to your office,” asks one of my staff. Why? “Oh, umm. In case I need access to your office when you’re not here.” I say no.

I’ve asked for a list of decisions made by my predecessor during his final months in office. It’s a long list. £200,000 here, £100,000 there, £50,000 somewhere else. All of them spending commitments made against my budget for this year. Oh, hang on. What’s this. That item looks a bit odd. I’m going to need advice. I put a stop on all expenditure until I have had a chance to look at the projects.

My office door opens and a head pops in. “Can I have a key for your office?” asks another member of staff. “Why?” I ask. “Oh, well. What if there is an emergency. Say a fire breaks out when you are on holiday.” Fair point, but I’m funny about keys to offices. I give the spare key to the Head of Security and tell him he can use it in an emergency.

Next up the Budget. Nothing special there. How about the forward planning. Usual stuff. Oh, wait. In 2024 we are going to be £11 million in deficit! I’ll need to look into that. Reserves, they look healthy right now, what about the future? Oh dear. Down to the bare legal minimum by 2024. I poke about the budget a bit further. More bad news. This will take careful handling.

Why does 2024 ring a bell. Oh yes, that’s the date of the next PCC election. Urk!

That report into the project set up by my predecessor is back. Waffle waffle, illegal, blah blah, racist. Wait, what! “illegal” “racist”. Well, that project is getting axed for a start. And I’ll go through the rest with a fine-tooth comb.

Day 3.

I’d better read the agenda for the meeting this afternoon. Police recruitment figures, forthcoming grant decisions, meetings with Black Lives Matter. Hang on. Why are we meeting an organisation that wants to defund the police, has put police officers in hospital, and desecrated the cenotaph in London?

Come the meeting, I have a dozen or so faces looking at me from the Teams screen. “Any Other Business”. “Yes,” I say. “As of now this organisation will have absolutely no contact at all with Black Lives Matter.” There is a deathly silence. Meeting over, the screen goes blank.

Day 4.

A rare moment that sees me alone with a cup of tea. I wonder what stationary I have in my desk. Top drawer is the usual clutter of paperclips, post-it notes and pencils. Second drawer much the same, the third drawer is completely full of agendas and reports. I pull them out. The first is dated 2016, the second 2015, and the third 2014. My predecessor obviously never got as far as drawer 3. I wonder what he did spend his time doing.

Walking down to the staff canteen for lunch, I pass the Head of Security and say hello. “Ah, Mr Matthews,” he says. “I got that list ok.” What list? “The list of people who can have the key to your office.” I tell him to tear it up.

Day 5.

My first week is coming to an end. I sit at the desk, Lord of all I survey.

God help me.
jesus christ

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


e: ^^^^ lmao what a nerd

sebzilla posted:

Ah, the casual homophobia of the mid-late 00s. Heady days.
Listened to a bunch of nu metal a while back & jfc there were a lot of f-bombs, I was genuinely shocked

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 8, 2021

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

ThomasPaine posted:

I remember walking past one of those Evening Standard stands in London in March during the rush hour crowds and all the papers had the headline 'VIRUS MAY THREATEN BRITAIN' or something along those lines while thousands of people were marching past in a scrum and oh boy did it feel like the opening scenes of a disaster film, funny to look back on

Ir was wierd going back to the office in mid-April and seeing everyone's calenders left on the day they stopped going in.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Apraxin posted:



He presumably wrote this because he thinks it shows him in a favorable light?

jesus christ

So how many times a day do you think he has a wank in the office?

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