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I've been looking at Extus, Oriq Overlord/Awaken the Blood Avatar as a fun commander. Seems the obvious line to go is a standard aristocrats token strategy into any infinite mana engine to cast Awaken the Blood Avatar and make infinite hasty tokens. The obvious lines seem to be Dockside Extortionist/Sword of the Paruns/Splinter Twin or Animate Dead/Worldgorger Dragon for the mana, but are there any other Mardu shenanigans I'm missing?
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Chain of Smog + Magecraft Treasure Dwarf and/or Bomberman/LED/Breach. If Dockside = 6 then it also goes infinite with Worthy Cause
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Jul 1, 2021 20:45
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Extus + Dockside + Worthy Cause is a unique combo for that commander. Darkblast and Street Wraith are useful in that deck as well. Having white lets you play silence effects to protect some traditionally vulnerable combos like Worldgorger Dragon reanimate loops, Chain of Smog + Stormkiln Artist, or Bomberman combos.
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Jul 1, 2021 20:45
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TBH, I'd been looking to make my Mardu Aristocrats as close to cEDH as I could, so I'm definitely interested in seeing what a standard version of this kind of deck would look like. Well, if there even is such a thing as a "standard version", anyway.
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Jul 1, 2021 21:14
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Very nice! Thanks! The only Mardu I've played were Edgar Markov and Zurgo Helmsmasher, and Extus is a somewhat different strategy than either of them. In a good way, though
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Jul 1, 2021 21:17
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Aniodia posted:TBH, I'd been looking to make my Mardu Aristocrats as close to cEDH as I could, so I'm definitely interested in seeing what a standard version of this kind of deck would look like. Well, if there even is such a thing as a "standard version", anyway. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/e5t0_D3I00a-FOrXsA-aUQ My decklist is perhaps a tad unique in that I’m squeezing in some equipment to better leverage Extus’s Double Strike in the event of stax heavy pods, and I’m specifically not running other legendary creatures so his magecraft never “misses”, so while there may be more optimized cEDH lists, I can’t imagine it would be more than 5-6 cards different.
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Jul 1, 2021 21:17
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Aniodia posted:TBH, I'd been looking to make my Mardu Aristocrats as close to cEDH as I could, so I'm definitely interested in seeing what a standard version of this kind of deck would look like. Well, if there even is such a thing as a "standard version", anyway. A lot of the cEDH Mardu decks are turbo naus builds. I don't have my list I was messing with anymore, but here are two that are very similar. Those plus Bust's can give you some good starting points. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/WQUC_soKSkWAqh3lyoucDw https://www.moxfield.com/decks/IdEiZ4UPfkG3dpCSnJ8EoQ
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Jul 1, 2021 21:25
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Yeah, the access points for cEDH are basically Oracle, Dockside, Breach, and Ad Nauseum. This deck, while lacking the strength of U countermagic or green’s ramp and flexibility, you still have access to all the most powerful spells in the format and dockside is tied for first most powerful creature.
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Jul 1, 2021 21:30
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stupid trick for the new set: Minsc turns creatures into giants with his ability; realm-cloaked giant's adventure doesn't kill giants; and if you have any anthem out you can do x=0 on minsc's ability and your creatures will remain alive from the bonus toughness it gives. thus, if you have those three things you can wrath the board while leaving your own stuff alive. any idiot with krosan grip can ruin your day if you try this but it would still be really funny to pull off
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Jul 8, 2021 03:29
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President Ark posted:any idiot with krosan grip can ruin your day if you try this but it would still be really funny to pull off 
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Jul 8, 2021 03:58
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I don't know if I'm just ringing a bell that has been rung, but last night I was catching up a few pages back and was reading about wanting to do a bear based commander deck, and this PROBABLY was already pointed out, but Graham from LRR did this on Game Knights a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elOZ2EnWlCM If it's a flat out repeat of the obvious, I apologize, and will note that I'm trying to play some Commander for the first time at one of my local LGS where they described the scene as "Several pods with Competitive EDH" and I'm trying to bring a budget Oona deck that I have been making since the first commander decks came out and I was playing 1v1 EDH with a buddy. I expect to get curb stomped a bit, like I did when I played at a convention "For fun" and the other two guys ( Besides my buddy ) just targeted me out the gate and killed me, leaving me without a game for ~ 2 hours.
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Jul 8, 2021 17:14
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Good luck! There are a few cheapish packages that you can toss into Oona (dramatic scepter, consult Oracle) and then just slam the rest full of low mana cost interaction and tutors. Also it bears repeating that regardless of deck power levels, playing with dicks can ruin a game.
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Jul 8, 2021 21:01
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The upcoming hot combo seems to be using Book of Exalted Deeds to put a counter on Faceless Haven, so you can't lose unless your opponents are playing land destruction, or they kill Haven that turn while it's a creature. Is it op? Nah, it takes 9 mana to do it all on the same turn, six white and 3 snow, and doesn't win you the game. It is dumb and funny if you can pull it off? Yeah, I think so.
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Jul 8, 2021 21:21
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Is it op? Nah Sorry, too busy maindecking shittons of land destruction, brb
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Jul 8, 2021 21:22
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Couldn't you do that much more cheaply with Mutavault?
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Jul 8, 2021 22:13
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Toph Bei Fong posted:The upcoming hot combo seems to be using Book of Exalted Deeds to put a counter on Faceless Haven, so you can't lose unless your opponents are playing land destruction, or they kill Haven that turn while it's a creature. This is not the Future Standard thread.
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Jul 8, 2021 22:41
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Voyager I posted:Couldn't you do that much more cheaply with Mutavault? Or better with ensoul artifact and darksteel citadel
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Jul 8, 2021 22:54
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Silhouette posted:Or better with ensoul artifact and darksteel citadel What do you think that does?
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Jul 8, 2021 23:00
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Aranan posted:Good luck! There are a few cheapish packages that you can toss into Oona (dramatic scepter, consult Oracle) and then just slam the rest full of low mana cost interaction and tutors. Thanks. I'm looking at my list after seeing the command zone commander template video and really taking a moment to address my Timmy bullshit. There are a lot of "this is neat" like Nirkhana Revenent and such that is getting pulled. I do not have nearly enough ramp.
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Jul 9, 2021 01:27
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Sol Ring Fellwar Stone Dimir Signet Arcane Signet Talisman of Dominance Everflowing Chalice (and the more expensive choices if you have the $ and/or proxies: Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Grim Monolith, Mox Diamond, Jeweled Lotus, Chrome Mox, Mox Opal).
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Jul 9, 2021 02:15
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What does this do? It sounds like platinum angel, and I didn't understand how this used for best effect either?
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Jul 9, 2021 03:07
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cosmicjim posted:What does this do? It sounds like platinum angel, and I didn't understand how this used for best effect either? You can target your manland while it's a creature, get the "You can't lose/Opponent can't win" ability on it, then when it de-animates, it's very hard to remove, as a land, specifically in Future Standard, Arena, Best-of-One. That effect isn't actually very good on a creature, especially in a format with good removal, or sideboards.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:17
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It's also pretty bad in commander because there are lots of ways to kill lands.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:36
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The Shortest Path posted:It's also pretty bad in commander because there are lots of ways to kill lands. A lot of people play with groups where they don't use land destruction because it "feels bad" but I would def start running some if this is actually a combo people start using
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Jul 9, 2021 03:50
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That new overloadable land destruction that kills snow or colorless producers has found a home in my black decks
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:A lot of people play with groups where they don't use land destruction because it "feels bad" but I would def start running some if this is actually a combo people start using Yeah, it's kind of a catch-22 in that way. It's only good when there isn't land destruction, but running it guarantees that the other players will start packing land destruction.
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You don't need to be packing Strip Mine, per se. Anything that removes (destroy/exile/bounce/top deck) "a permanent" works.
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Jul 9, 2021 05:03
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Toshimo posted:You don't need to be packing Strip Mine, per se. Anything that removes (destroy/exile/bounce/top deck) "a permanent" works. Acidic Slime, Generous Gift, Beast Within - all some of the most played cards in the format. The combo is good to strong in casual, but even casual decks pack answers to it already.
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Yeah, I generally don't pack dedicated land destruction, but at least three of my decks have the capability of tutoring and/or recurring Acidic Slime, for example. I probably do have one or two decks that might scoop to it in 1-on-1, but still, seems a pretty fragile combo for a multiplayer format. e:fb on acidic slime
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Jul 9, 2021 05:18
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Also cyclonic rift, or Assassin's Trophy. So a lot of commonly played cards will deal wtih this.
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Jul 9, 2021 06:32
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pseudanonymous posted:Also cyclonic rift, or Assassin's Trophy. So a lot of commonly played cards will deal wtih this. Notable non-land sweeper Cyclonic Rift?
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Toshimo posted:Notable non-land sweeper Cyclonic Rift? Oh, my bad, I thought I checked it but I wasn't paying enough attention.
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I guess our group was fortunate in that (a) we started playing in 2018 with the precon, and the Lord Windgrace deck includes Decimate (b) one person really loves the transforming legendary lands So packing at least one piece of targeted land removal was normalised from the start and the necessity of it was frequently restated
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/adventures-in-the-forgotten-realms-commander-precon-decklists D&D precon deck lists I always grew up playing with stone rains and fissures and choking sands and strip mines and Armageddons, and jokulhaups to blow up lands and playing in a group that gets butthurt about it always irked me. If you're gonna have this big rear end ramp machine then hell yes I'm going to try and slow your rear end down by getting rid of some if not all your lands so I can have a chance at winning!  New I Hate Your Deck episode with Kyle Hill and The Proff. The longer this video goes I think the more drunk everyone gets, and Prof just starts cursing up a storm, and the game ends when everyone is just "gently caress it" it's the most realistic game of commander I've seen on youtube. https://youtu.be/bHEVO4d8tj4 Jiro fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Jiro posted:https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/adventures-in-the-forgotten-realms-commander-precon-decklists That's a surprisingly good mana base compared to past commander decks
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Aranan posted:Sol Ring I actually super appreciate the list of suggestions. I want a grim monolith, especially since it pairs with infinite mama combos for Oona, but don't think I'm dropping that cash...yet. The cheap options I think I need to pull out of my bulk box I've been organizing. Didn't even think of silly stuff like Dimir signit. I have to read up on the lists, but thinking I may just order the set of all realms commanders precons.
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I wonder if the Commander decks will come with a full suite of dice considering the new cards run the gamut of them.
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The Rakdos precon is showing cards that require a d10 to roll. I didn't even know they loving made those. Hopefully with that deck a d10 comes with it.
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Jiro posted:The Rakdos precon is showing cards that require a d10 to roll. I didn't even know they loving made those. Hopefully with that deck a d10 comes with it. The precons have d4, d6, d10, and d12 from what I've seen.
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Broke: Using 2 D20 to track your life total Woke: Using 2 D10 to track your life total
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