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Laterite posted:"By about 2000, the United States economy is doing so well that the tax coffers begin to swell. This not only solves the deficit problem but gives the government ample resources to embark on new initiatives. No longer forced to nitpick over which government programs to cut, political leaders emerge with new initiatives to help solve seemingly intractable social problems, like drug addiction. No one talks about reverting to big government, but there's plenty of room for innovative approaches to applying the pooled resources of the entire society to benefit the public at large. And the government, in good conscience, can finally afford tax cuts."  Homocow posted:the toxic optimism of the late 90s is why so many older millennials are broken nihilists Chard posted:also, you know, *gestures broadly at the world* frankenfreak has issued a correction as of 00:40 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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i am harry posted:hmm yes equality and chaos, two words that go together so naturally in a way. the defining characteristic of chaos is indistinguishably, something shared with equality though maybe arrived at in a different way
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Jay Rust posted:I don’t get the ways in which it’s Nazi propaganda !!
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Hedenius posted:In the sense that the nazis invented the torch relay as part of their propaganda efforts during the 36 Olympics. granted that they invented it but in what sense is it Nazi propaganda rather than a thing Nazis did once in the name of pageantry? like was the torch relay something they did all the time?
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indigi posted:granted that they invented it but in what sense is it Nazi propaganda rather than a thing Nazis did once in the name of pageantry? like was the torch relay something they did all the time? Yes.
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I suppose I can see the relationship between an angry mob with torches and a person running a marathon with one
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Nazis are known for marching with torches now, and, as the article points out, they are trying to evoke some very particular imagery with it. However, it used to be just how people marched in general for various occasions. Here's a random news article in Belarusian from 1928 that reports on celebrations dedicated to the tenth anniversary of the Soviet Communist Youth Organisation.  In the evening young communists marched with torches, and the way this is described makes it abundantly clear that it's something that everyone is familiar with. And even after the war marching with torches didn't fall completely out of favour in USSR. Here's a photo from the 70s.  E: And I suppose recent torch light marches in India in support of protesting farmers show that it's not just a European thing either.  People like fire, it looks pretty. Paladinus has issued a correction as of 02:11 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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P sure runnin around with fire is one of humanity's oldest ways of expressing excitement. And creating excitement.
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I appreciate that Neo-Nazis are dumbasses who cannot figure out “wrap stick in cloth, soak in oil, light” so they have to buy Polynesia-appropriating yard decorations, yet Indian farmers have got it down. Paladinus posted:People like fire, it looks pretty. You’re selling the torch short here. If you want practical illumination, you bring a lantern. Torches are a spectacle and an implicit threat. People don’t put a house “to the lantern”. They put it to the torch. Platystemon has issued a correction as of 02:33 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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better idea than a lantern: a loving flashlight we don't live in the goddamn 17th century, we have light bulbs and electricity
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Also it's fire on the end of a stick and that's rad
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Flashlights aren't particularly threatening....
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Junpei posted:better idea than a lantern: a loving flashlight the olympic maglite doesn't sound particularly inspiring but carrying around a maglite at a protest on the other hand one of those 6 d-cell motherfuckers
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Fun fact: flashlights are called flash lights because batteries were once so expensive that you weren’t supposed to leave the light on. People would tap the light on here and there for a moment to get the lay of the land but still mostly walk in darkness.
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Paladinus posted:People like fire, it looks pretty. Xand_Man posted:Also it's fire on the end on the end of a stick and that's rad Ghost Leviathan posted:P sure runnin around with fire is one of humanity's oldest ways of expressing excitement. And creating excitement. Fire is awesome, and looks badass at night. Especially if there's a bunch of people with their own personal fire moving around.
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And they are also called torches, because they are like torches.
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Junpei posted:better idea than a lantern: a loving flashlight 99.6% of poor people own a flashlight.
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Watch to end, plz. https://twitter.com/AlexTMcNair/status/1412945070802841607
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Inceltown posted:99.6% of poor people own a flashlight. i am the 0.4%
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Junpei posted:better idea than a lantern: a loving flashlight thousands of generations of humans before you have used, watched, cared for, and been kept alive by fire. go build a connection with all those people who came before you. go light something on fire and watch it. this same flickering ghost that is tamed in our lighters and stoves would consume every available fuel source if given the opportunity. for almost all of human history, we have watched this ethereal dancing light as it cooked our food, burned our cities, forged our tools, pushed back the darkness, incinerated forests, and provide life saving warmth. it's still doing that all that for us, and more. see that fire, understand what it can do, what it has done, acknowledge it, fear it, and respect it as humans have done since before we were humans.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Watch to end, plz. Ow, my neck
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Watch to end, plz. "Watch this, the audience has to go along with it no matter what I do."
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Platystemon posted:I appreciate that Neo-Nazis are dumbasses who cannot figure out “wrap stick in cloth, soak in oil, light” so they have to buy Polynesia-appropriating yard decorations, yet Indian farmers have got it down. Lanterns have caused shitloads of house fires.
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Buttchocks posted:Lanterns have caused shitloads of house fires. They’re not burning their own houses down, Ben.
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Platystemon posted:They’re not burning their own houses down, Ben. they were, most of the time e: this may be some sort of The Office (US) reference I’m missing
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indigi posted:e: this may be some sort of The Office (US) reference I’m missing Nah. It’s a reference to someone else with a poor understanding of phenomena that destroy houses.
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Buttchocks posted:Lanterns have caused shitloads of house fires. Not to mention what happened with Mrs o Leary's cow
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jetz0r posted:thousands of generations of humans before you have used, watched, cared for, and been kept alive by fire. go build a connection with all those people who came before you. go light something on fire and watch it. One time I did shrooms and just started a fire in my little wood burning stove without matches or anything and kept it going while making it burn out cool cardboard sculptures and stuff it owned
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Junpei posted:better idea than a lantern: a loving flashlight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauri_Chaura_incident cant do this with a flashlight this was an ok movie, watched it in high school: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_(film) BONGHITZ has issued a correction as of 05:32 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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i am harry posted:hmm yes equality and chaos, two words that go together so naturally this is how fascists think though
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Watch to end, plz. Wendy Williams owns. No one else on television could get away with this.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Watch to end, plz. this is incredible insane person energy im so jealous
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